trapped in jail~ send help!

[Thranduil]

What's a chargeback?

It's where you call your credit card company and say SE is charging you for services they are not providing, and ask them to reverse the charges.

[Eaglestrike]

What's a chargeback?

It's where you call your credit card company and say SE is charging you for services they are not providing, and ask them to reverse the charges.

lol, everyone here should do that.

[kunekaden]

Threads like this make me question as to why I (or we for that matter) give them $14 a month.

because we're currently banned and can't log into playonline to cancel our accounts?

(858) 790 - 7529 (PLAY)
Press 2 for billing and account information and ask to speak with a supervisor.

Be ready to be put on hold for 20minutes if your call goes anything like mine.

Edit: posted number wrong initially. oops.

[BRP]

I know I'm late, but that is some funny crap.

Anyway, I didn't read this huge thread... how many were banned? ;/

[The Blackrose]

I know I'm late, but that is some funny crap.

Anyway, I didn't read this huge thread... how many were banned? ;/

Closest thing I could find to a tally was on KI. Nothing was said here.

[Turlos.]

From what I understand, across three linkshells it was 3 bannings, 14 suspensions and 26 warnings. I might be a bit off on the numbers, I was trying to go down the list and am not sure on what a few people received. And I don't know for a fact on the 3 bannings, just going off of what others told me. If those 3 are not banned, they are at least suspended.

[Mitsukai]

Revenge for Hiroshima!

justoneshotthemlol

[Raubien]

I think this was the last straw for the NAs. I'm sick of SE's bullshit and I feel all of us should in some way let them know how pissed off we are. Sure you people on other servers or people who didn't have a friend banned are saying to yourselves "oh well". Minhvu joining PO changed my entire opinion on them from what I had... I knew they botted, cheat, stole but I was positive if they were good enough for Minhvu they had to have changed. Well looks like I was wrong and I partly blame myself for not letting him know that this ls would end up screwing him over. Now I am going to do everything I can.

SE and GMs don't care about a couple customers. What's $36 out of the millions that pay for the game? If you are going to the live event I suggest someone speaks up. Don't sit there all happy because they're cushioning your ass with a gobbie bag or a new in game item. Tell them how much they've fucked up and what needs to change. As for me I think I'll be canceling my account after I send a few emails to SE.

Stand up don't take this bullshit don't let SE and GMs push us around.

[Zigma]

this thread is getting like 2 views a minute lol. Go to the ffxi talk and refresh the page and look at the views number lol

[Darm]

I think this was the last straw for the NAs. I'm sick of SE's bullshit and I feel all of us should in some way let them know how pissed off we are. Sure you people on other servers or people who didn't have a friend banned are saying to yourselves "oh well". Minhvu joining PO changed my entire opinion on them from what I had... I knew they botted, cheat, stole but I was positive if they were good enough for Minhvu they had to have changed. Well looks like I was wrong and I partly blame myself for not letting him know that this ls would end up screwing him over. Now I am going to do everything I can.

SE and GMs don't care about a couple customers. What's $36 out of the millions that pay for the game? If you are going to the live event I suggest someone speaks up. Don't sit there all happy because they're cushioning your ass with a gobbie bag or a new in game item. Tell them how much they've fucked up and what needs to change. As for me I think I'll be canceling my account after I send a few emails to SE.

Stand up don't take this bullshit don't let SE and GMs push us around.

We planned this whole thing PUNK'D!!!

http://www.kenkomachi.com/animecon/Otakon05/zelda.jpg

[Desi]

raubian you are a damn fool

[Raubien]

lol darm.

Edit: Desi you just sit content in your chair all day paying $12 a month to be happy no matter what happens to others playing it as long as you get to jack off into another sock and earn that virutal money. Well I am a man with morales and when something like this happens I don't sit and take it.

[FFXIFlux]

Oh my... I think I'm blind. Thanks Darm.

[mdn]

you do realize a number of us are calling and writing letters and that this isn't going to fly right? yeah, i'm suspended for 2 days and it doesn't really matter because i have a few books to read in the meantime and can go play pool with some friends instead of camping internet monsters, but it isn't right that they banned the others players and that is why we're trying to do something about it

[Raubien]

I respect that Mdn, I feel that anyone who sends a letter, contacts a live help employee, or emails is helping. Desi is not part of the solution and I hope he gets a b.s. ban one day.

[divisortheory]

lol darm.

Edit: Desi you just sit content in your chair all day paying $12 a month to be happy no matter what happens to others playing it as long as you get to jack off into another sock and earn that virutal money. Well I am a man with morales and when something like this happens I don't sit and take it.

So instead of fighting them over the issue, you just wack off into a different sock (e.g. the WoW sock) and assume that by reducing their revune by $168/year, you've actually said something. If you're "not going to sit around and take it" then I suggest you actually do something about it. And if your fights are met by SE representatives with "I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do." then I suggest you go to higher levels. Find email addresses of the people in charge at SE and email them directly. Contact the FTC, or hell contact your senator if you think the issue is really racially motivated. Unless you actually fight them, you are "sitting and taking it" just like those of us who are going to continue to pay them $14/month.

Those of us who have been around for a long time see this exact same thread appear at least once or twice every other month. It's always exactly the same. "The revolution is now. This is our time. This is our fight." All kinds of silly propaganda and shit. But you always do the same thing. You call the fucking POL help center, and when you get rejected you throw down your protest sign and wallow in grief as you admit defeat. That's not a fight, don't fool yourself into thinking it is. Until you start taking things to the next level in your so called "fight", you are accomplishing nothing.

So, still want to fight?

[Xanatos]

I think this was the last straw for the NAs. I'm sick of SE's bullshit and I feel all of us should in some way let them know how pissed off we are. Sure you people on other servers or people who didn't have a friend banned are saying to yourselves "oh well". Minhvu joining PO changed my entire opinion on them from what I had... I knew they botted, cheat, stole but I was positive if they were good enough for Minhvu they had to have changed. Well looks like I was wrong and I partly blame myself for not letting him know that this ls would end up screwing him over. Now I am going to do everything I can.

Raubien I never had a single problem with you until now. Do you think we wanted any of this to happen? The simple fact that this happened wasnt because PO wanted to get his account banned if you see a total of people were trying to keep HNMs in our time also got banned from other LSs as well. The fact that these accounts were banned is fucking horrible and if there is anything in my power to help them I would. But unfortunately this is a racial and biased game that we all play. Minhvu was absolutely one of the nicest people PO has had in very long time I give you that but I'm sick and tired of people bashing us because you either dislike one particular person which you may center all your grief on or simply because we have people who have a loose mouth. Have I personally done anything to ever offend you? Does that make me a monster who bots/steals/cheats?

As far as blaming us for his banning get your facts straight. This wasnt his first offense.

[Raubien]

Yes I know he's been sending me PMs, and PO does have thier shit toghether but you guys break rules to claim NMs like most end game.

As for the guy above. I might try to file a class action suit if I can get enough evidence that this was indeed a racist action.

I talked to a live web help employee and all he could do is direct me to the help desk. Im going to log in and talk to a senior GM.

[divisortheory]

So instead of fighting them over the issue, you just wack off into a different sock (e.g. the WoW sock) and assume that by reducing their revune by $168/year, you've actually said something. If you're "not going to sit around and take it" then I suggest you actually do something about it. And if your fights are met by SE representatives with "I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do." then I suggest you go to higher levels. Find email addresses of the people in charge at SE and email them directly. Contact the FTC, or hell contact your senator if you think the issue is really racially motivated. Unless you actually fight them, you are "sitting and taking it" just like those of us who are going to continue to pay them $14/month.

Those of us who have been around for a long time see this exact same thread appear at least once or twice every other month. It's always exactly the same. "The revolution is now. This is our time. This is our fight." All kinds of silly propaganda and shit. But you always do the same thing. You call the fucking POL help center, and when you get rejected you throw down your protest sign and wallow in grief as you admit defeat. That's not a fight, don't fool yourself into thinking it is. Until you start taking things to the next level in your so called "fight", you are accomplishing nothing.

So, still want to fight?

Here, I'll even get you started:

File a Complaint with the FTC

You may also wish to file a complaint here, since SE is a foreign company (although for good measure you can do it at the first address also, since they have a north american subsidiary.

You may wish to contact the Department of Justice as well and see if there is anything they can do.

* In a restaurant, a group of Asian Americans waits for over an hour to be served, while white and Latino customers receive prompt service.

* Haitian American visitors to a hotel are told they must pay in cash rather than by credit card, are charged higher rates than other customers, and are not provided with the same amenities, such as towels and soap.

These examples may be violations of federal laws that prohibit discrimination because of national origin, race, color, or religion in places of public accommodation. Public accommodations include hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. If you believe you have been denied access to or equal enjoyment of a public accommodation where there is a pattern or practice of discrimination, contact the Housing and Civil Enforcement Section at (202) 514-4713. You may also write to:

U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Housing and Civil Enforcement Section, NWB
Washington, D.C. 20530

If all of that fails, you may wish to contact your senator.

If that fails as well, you may wish to find a civil rights attorney in your area, although hopefully you are prepared to spend at the very least a thousand dollars or so to take this route.

[Remus]

Remember the date, January 29, 2006 is the fucking revolution.