New MMOPRG from SE

[Brendam]

Nice, Ultimate Seabed is def the ultimate challenge... so dam hard. I made a new character last week, FOmar(which I always am) Pinkal and legit hahahh I forgot how hard the game can be when you dont have everything handed to you.

[Flarega]

Yeah its rediculous, especially solo. I like to consider myself legit(I found all my items originally and copied them onto another memory card so I wouldnt lose them if I FSOD'd) but some think thats cheating. Imo its open to interpretation. My rarest stuff is Lavis Cannon (13 redria Pouillys)and Black king Bar. (Redria Dolmolm + Blue Black Stone) I have a lot of other decently rare stuff but these are the items that people always accuse me of being OMG d00per.

P.S. Sinow Zoa + Frozen = death

[Elani]

I wouldn't mind being on an international server again, but what SE needs to do is this:

-Have 3 server centers, one in North America, one in Japan, and one in Europe. That way people can choose which region their servers are located. It would also largely solve the latency problems.
-Release the game in all the territories at the same time. It wasn't that people were racist, it was the simple fact that a great many JP players saw themselves as infinitely superior to NA due to the fact that they were playing for a year before us.

But regardless, FFXI itself is inherently flawed and I don't want to see SE simply make a rehash of it.

[Thaesus]

If you think the company is doing such a bad job you'd never play another one of their games, then why are you playing this one?

"Another" being the key word here. Reading comprehension, learn to love it.

edit: I guess that at this point, i still play because i can have fun mpking and griefing people i don't like. This wouldn't happen on a new game however.

edit2: You actually made me question that seriously. All the friends i have in this game are probably the biggest reason.

If I didn't have vent for the past 1 1/2 yrs I probably would have quit. My friends and vent kept me playing. MPK and griefing people was also a nice bonus.

[Realm]

PSU prease.

[ghanima]

It's confirmed that the new MMO is the one seen in the tech demo or that there is just a new MMO? SE is currently working on 2 MMO's already, Fantasy Earth and that mech one which name is drawing a total blank right now. Anyways, a new MMO would be nice but yeah they would need to fix problems.

Mech MMO name is Front Mission Online. Style looked very similar to FM4, was trailer only and all in JP at E3 2005.

[DrObvious]

I don't see the multi-lingual servers being one of those problems though... saying that I don't want to be on a server with JP is as bad as the JP only people that ruin this game. That said, there are plenty of Japanese players in the game I have had a good experience with and to me that far outweighs the negatives.

But surely you can understand why certain people wouldn't want to be on a server with JPs when half of them seemingly don't want anything to do with us? I've had JPs that refused to party with me when I was the only NA saying that they didn't understand English even when I told them 3 other members were JP

[BRP]

I think the JP problem is way blown out. Sure there was racism in the start but now most probelms are really 'color' blind.

JPs are not the reason Kings suck. The Kings suck because the Kings suck. They simply are the worst implemented NMs/events/anything in FFXI's endgame, but sadly, are also the centerpiece of the endgame because of the unreplaceable good gear they drop(other HNMs you can live without, like Strider Boots and Healing Staff). Nothing comes close to Konieg Body's +20 VIT. Now think for a moment. If you never had to compete with the JP over HNMs, would JP be bad at all? I mean, at least at this point of the game? If it isn't the JP, it would be the EU, if isn't the EU, it is the hardcore(est) NA. It is the game thats the problem, not the players. And Kings are the only place you really see this kind of thing.

I'm all for the racial mix. It makes the game be alive at all hours of the day. However, I will be sticking to Final Fantasy XI(while playing PSU and/or WoW on the side if they interest me/interest me again), if SE plans to make the same mistakes as before. They need to lower competion, add more ways to communicate to other language players(Improve the Auto-Translate!!), and not make the game so RMTable. Then I'll think of playing it.

Before they make a new MMORPG how about fixing the current EASY, but PAINFUL problems your current one faces. If SE gave me complete control of devolopement and GM policy for a day, this game would be fixed. I'm sure that true for more than half the people who have played this game for more than 2 years and are not complete morons.

If SE gave me complete control of devolopement and GM policy for a day, this game would be fixed. I'm sure that true for more than half the people who have played this game for more than 2 years and are not complete morons.

I have news for you. You are an idiot. All solutions bring up new problems. What do you expect it to be magical? You wave a wand and the game becomes perfect? You try fucking coding for the game aand lets see how far you get. Granted SE is not doing a good enough job, the fact that you think you could fix evverything without knowing anything but a couple of end user problems says clearly that you are not too smart.

[FFXIFlux]

But surely you can understand why certain people wouldn't want to be on a server with JPs when half of them seemingly don't want anything to do with us?

So the reason NA players don't want to be on a server with JPN is because JPN don't want anything to do with NA?

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Lets face it, there are a lot of JPN I don't want anything to do with and a lot of NA I ALSO don't want anything to do with. Generally speaking people are just a pack of stupid jerks and it doesn't matter what side of the ocean they're on. We may as well be a bunch of stupid jerks together.

I've had JPs that refused to party with me when I was the only NA saying that they didn't understand English even when I told them 3 other members were JP

I remeber a LOT of times where I'd be a low level, like 20 and wandering around trying to make my way to Jeuno or something equally as likely to get me dead and a JPN player would jump off their chocobo in the middle of nowhere and offer to help. Or when I was doing missions at barely doable levels or unlocking advanced jobs half the time people in the zone would OFFER to help me and if I ever asked someone for help then the first person would always say yes. Or when I LDed and came back 20 minutes later, they had a replacement on the way but offered to alliance me in an XP party (I declined and left once the replacement arrived.) YMMV, but leveling quickly from NA release I never saw a "JPN only" until other NAs started to catch up to me in level. Although now that I think about all that help... I do play Mithra...

[Septimus]

The Kings suck because the Kings suck. They simply are the worst implemented NMs/events/anything in FFXI's endgame, but sadly, are also the centerpiece of the endgame because of the unreplaceable good gear they drop(other HNMs you can live without, like Strider Boots and Healing Staff).

Actually, I think that Jailers and CoP Dynamis is actually implimented in a manner that is even poorer than Kings, it's just that the gear they drop is so shitty that there is little reason to bother with them.

[BRP]

Whats so hard about telling what the programmers do? I wouldn't be programming it. What is the downside of making the three kings instanced(or in this game, weekly BCNM)? Fafnir, Adaman, and Behemoth alone would still be camped but not slaved over by 100 people. Adaman would probably be all but ignored most of the time.

That is a good point Sept. Yet another error or two that could take a half hour of planning to fix. "Increase drop rates" "Good idea, see you next week".

[Septimus]

That is a good point Sept. Yet another error or two that could take a half hour of planning to fix. "Increase drop rates" "Good idea, see you next week".

It would be harder than that to fix either of those.

Jailers, make the pop conditions for Ix'Aerns less stupid, have the ??? spots for Fortitude, Faith, and Temperance move in a predictable pattern (hey, clock-wise, that's an idea), make Fortitude pop with one chip, make pop items 100% drop, torques a +50% drop, and boost their loot pools with items like venomous claws and behemoth hides. (Also, 100% pop rate for AV and make him reasonable to fight.)

For CoP dynamis, they should just remove the zones and issue a public apology for adding in stupid shit like that. And public flagellation would help convince us that the apology was sincere and that they plan to actually put some thought into the zones they make.

Whats so hard about telling what the programmers do? I wouldn't be programming it. What is the downside of making the three kings instanced(or in this game, weekly BCNM)? Fafnir, Adaman, and Behemoth alone would still be camped but not slaved over by 100 people. Adaman would probably be all but ignored most of the time.".

Of course you would not be programming it. You would also have no clue on how the server backbone works, have no idea how to make it so the ps2 supports everything you want to do for the pc. I do agree with the bcnm idea I've always said that, but do you really think that will fix all the problems in the game? telling people what to do is easy, especially if you have no clue how the fuck it's done. Hell... just telling people what to do on it's own is easy.

[FFXIFlux]

Jailers, make the pop conditions for Ix'Aerns less stupid, have the ??? spots for Fortitude, Faith, and Temperance move in a predictable pattern (hey, clock-wise, that's an idea), make Fortitude pop with one chip, make pop items 100% drop, torques a +50% drop, and boost their loot pools with items like venomous claws and behemoth hides. (Also, 100% pop rate for AV and make him reasonable to fight.)

Money items shouldn't be on them. It'll just turn Sea into another gil-farmer zone like Sky. Of course, if they got rid of the fricken gil farmers... Loot pools do need to be fixed, drop rates made 100%, AV fixed. King drops put into KS99 fights. Also FFXI loot methods need to be fixed so loot actually IS an upgrade instead of a sidegrade.

For CoP dynamis, they should just remove the zones and issue a public apology for adding in stupid shit like that. And public flagellation would help convince us that the apology was sincere and that they plan to actually put some thought into the zones they make.

Hear hear! The zones are fun enough but lower coin drop rates per mob coupled with greatly reduced farming time in the zone is just obscene for people working on their relics. Also a player limit lower than normal dynamis has bitten us on the butt every week and we've turned people away... which means in the long run we'll have even poorer attendance for northlands dynamis and get even fewer coins.

[BRP]

I think some of the new Dynamis zones seemed creative.

And about how hard it would be to order around SE's programmers, I guess I'll have to worry about it once they ask me to do it .

[NynJa]

the racist thing is SE's fault too


I said this in another post:
I reported a JP for bot-skilling (or for those who want to use the "They were on ps2 and used turbo pad" approach, UNATTENDED GAMEPLAY). 48 hours straight in the same spot, GM didnt do fuck all to them. I reported them like 3 times, I had a bunch of friends report them too..nothing, NOT ONE FUCKING THING was done.

[Septimus]

Whats so hard about telling what the programmers do? I wouldn't be programming it. What is the downside of making the three kings instanced(or in this game, weekly BCNM)? Fafnir, Adaman, and Behemoth alone would still be camped but not slaved over by 100 people. Adaman would probably be all but ignored most of the time.".

Of course you would not be programming it. You would also have no clue on how the server backbone works, have no idea how to make it so the ps2 supports everything you want to do for the pc. I do agree with the bcnm idea I've always said that, but do you really think that will fix all the problems in the game? telling people what to do is easy, especially if you have no clue how the fuck it's done. Hell... just telling people what to do on it's own is easy.

On the other hand, something like "Hey guys, non-100% drop rates for pop items is idiotic, fix it" doesn't require a PhD in Computer Sciences and won't radically alter the backbone of the game.

Neither would ENMs for three kings.

Neither would Cursed v2.0 that drops from Jailers.

Hurray! I just fixed the game!

[Eternus]

100% drop rate of pop items in sea and it would be farmed to hell. AV would be dead on every server by now if you could have people pop JoL as often as you can pop Kirin. Seriously you want everything to be farmable like sky. If that was so then everyone would quit the game fast because the best things in the game would be easily attainable. There would be no carrot. By having low drop rates it keeps you coming back, paying monthly fees so you can one day get that rare item. The annoying things like that keeps shit rare so not every noob has a Ridill or M body.

[FFXIFlux]

On the other hand, something like "Hey guys, non-100% drop rates for pop items is idiotic, fix it" doesn't require a PhD in Computer Sciences and won't radically alter the backbone of the game.

Neither would ENMs for three kings.

Neither would Cursed v2.0 that drops from Jailers.

Hurray! I just fixed the game!

No, but fixing 70% of the top 10 problems with the game with 20 seconds of typeing isn't bad at all.