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    healing staff = waste of an inventory slot.

    50 MP is what, 1 cure III?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    healing staff = waste of an inventory slot.

    50 MP is what, 1 cure III?
    Its 1.0869565217391304347826086956522 Cure III's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalababala
    My whm is mostly used for two things:

    a) soloing or duoing
    b) HNM type stuff

    I don't enfeeble unless I'm soloing, and if I'm soloing I'm using melee equipment not mnd gear, and chances are my enfeebs will land on something I am soloing anyway since they are EP or less. In HNM, MP > MND.
    For an EP mob, unless you have around +50 MND you're not going to be capping slow and your paralyze won't proc very often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shalababala
    Feel free to load up on +MND for a big fight but your cures for 10 mp more than me won't mean squat if you have to rest every minute.
    First off, decent +MND isn't going to give you +10 HP healed, it can be over +100 HP healed on each Cure V. Secondly, after you've used the top of your MP pool, continueing to wear those +50mp -50hp zenith mitts are doing you jack, in fact they're just hurting you, and should be swapped out for -enmity or +MND gear. Being an MP whore is one thing, but being an MP whore when your mana pool is depleated is just plain dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga
    I think 2MND increases the resistance of the Bar Spells by 1 too or something like that.
    No it doesn't.

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    It really depends on the WHM.

    I know a WHM who used Healing Staff as opposed to Apollo and he's the best WHM I have ever dealt with. period.

    Then again I've also partied with incredible WHMs that used Apollo.

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    What's that? Skill > gear? No way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalababala
    Feel free to load up on +MND for a big fight but your cures for 10 mp more than me won't mean squat if you have to rest every minute.
    First off, decent +MND isn't going to give you +10 HP healed, it can be over +100 HP healed on each Cure V. Secondly, after you've used the top of your MP pool, continueing to wear those +50mp -50hp zenith mitts are doing you jack, in fact they're just hurting you, and should be swapped out for -enmity or +MND gear. Being an MP whore is one thing, but being an MP whore when your mana pool is depleated is just plain dumb.
    True enough, but how often do you realistically cast cure V? If you are the only whm you'll cast it more often but if you're working as a team chances are you're not casting much more than Cure 3 and the occasional higher level cure.

    I've given a lot of thought into my gear choices, and my #1 rule is to conserve inventory space (without gimping my job) because I have so much stuff between 4 jobs I either have leveled or am in the process of leveling. To me the difference between af1 hands and zenith is pretty much negligible, but since I can store af1 hands and I can use zenith on whm and blm that's what I use. If I played whm only you bet your buttons I would have blessed mitts, they are sexy If I got hate a lot on whm I would consider them anyway, but I rarely pull hate so I haven't made them a priority. Now that I have my tamas ring I pretty much never pull hate curing. I have a balance of max mp and -enmity with some mnd tossed in and it works for me. I don't need maxed mnd, but who knows some day I might level rdm and then I'll have the gear anyway

    Coming out and saying someone is stupid when you don't know their reasons for choosing the gear that they use is ridiculous. Not that you are the one that said that persay but I see that all the time and I think it's horribly unfair. I've said it time and again and I'll say it now, gear doesn't make the whm, their skill does. Gear is just icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    It really depends on the WHM.

    I know a WHM who used Healing Staff as opposed to Apollo and he's the best WHM I have ever dealt with. period.

    Then again I've also partied with incredible WHMs that used Apollo.
    But have you partied with incredible WHMs that dual wield purgatory mace and/or kraken club and seawolf/robber cudgels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taku
    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Quote Originally Posted by Taku
    Too much of a PITA to utilize the +50 MP for me...

    Good for dedicated WHM's and for MP E-penis, but other than that I can't justify the cost(and inventory) vs. benefit.
    If you want MP get a Republic Gold Medal
    Republican Gold Medal: 〇
    Bastok sucking and being outside nation control 90% of the time: 〇

    on asura bastok keeps getting first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    It really depends on the WHM.

    I know a WHM who used Healing Staff as opposed to Apollo and he's the best WHM I have ever dealt with. period.

    Then again I've also partied with incredible WHMs that used Apollo.
    But have you partied with incredible WHMs that dual wield purgatory mace and/or kraken club and seawolf/robber cudgels?
    and claim they outdamage monks in KRT with that setup. Yes, in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Taku
    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Quote Originally Posted by Taku
    Too much of a PITA to utilize the +50 MP for me...

    Good for dedicated WHM's and for MP E-penis, but other than that I can't justify the cost(and inventory) vs. benefit.
    If you want MP get a Republic Gold Medal
    Republican Gold Medal: 〇
    Bastok sucking and being outside nation control 90% of the time: 〇

    on asura bastok keeps getting first
    I want my goddamn Praefectus (sp) gloves but Windy has been in last for like 8 weeks now, it's so stupid ~_~. I remember a few months ago there was actually topic made on KI about Bastok being in first, because it hadn't happened in over a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    It really depends on the WHM.

    I know a WHM who used Healing Staff as opposed to Apollo and he's the best WHM I have ever dealt with. period.

    Then again I've also partied with incredible WHMs that used Apollo.
    But have you partied with incredible WHMs that dual wield purgatory mace and/or kraken club and seawolf/robber cudgels?
    and claim they outdamage monks in KRT with that setup. Yes, in fact.
    We had a LS WHMx5 + 1 BRD KRT pt.

    http://eminencels.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=699

    3k in 20 mins of exp. I can just imagine what a monk is thinking now.. "WHAT A WASTE OF 5 WHMS" ,lol.

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    useless piece of gear

    apollo's for banish, cure, carby, and the ever-so-rare fenrir 2hr

    if you find yourself in a fight where you think max mp is important, and you've popped a rolanberry pie or a snoll gelato, you might want to think about getting a hi-ether tank

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    Only time I ever use my Healing Staff over Apollo's is when I have time to rest to max mp... which isn't all too often. I don't see the problem with having both, but I do agree that on most servers Healing Staff is ridiculously overpriced and not worth it in comparison to Apollo.

    Like folks have said before, it's mostly used to boast about mp (omg e-penis). If I ever get hard-pressed for money it'll definitely be the first thing I sell, but with the economy as it stands lately, it's more of an investment. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    We had a LS WHMx5 + 1 BRD KRT pt.

    http://eminencels.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=699

    3k in 20 mins of exp. I can just imagine what a monk is thinking now.. "WHAT A WASTE OF 5 WHMS" ,lol.
    lol@Fafnir the WHM

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    I use both. If I'm not using banish in a party, who cares which one you use. If I had to buy it now, I wouldn't. But buying it over a year ago, might as well keep it and use it.

    Max mp isn't important really, but if I'm resting or just about to do an HNM fight, might as well have it and swap it all out later. It's easy to get over 1100mp on my character and I'll do that at the start of anything or if there is a long break. Otherwise my max mp is around 950.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Max mp isn't important really, but if I'm resting or just about to do an HNM fight, might as well have it and swap it all out later. It's easy to get over 1100mp on my character and I'll do that at the start of anything or if there is a long break. Otherwise my max mp is around 950.
    Yeah. I just use it to get max mp ~1450 while waiting between windows for KB, Fafnir, etc. As I burn MP, I just start swapping to +MND -enmity stuff.

    If that means I'm an LOLn00b for owning a healing staff, so shoot me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    I want my goddamn Praefectus (sp) gloves but Windy has been in last for like 8 weeks now, it's so stupid ~_~. I remember a few months ago there was actually topic made on KI about Bastok being in first, because it hadn't happened in over a year.
    The trick to getting your Windurst first is to take over Ronfaure outpost. It happened on Ragnarok, everyone switched to Windurst to get it (myself included) and now it looks like we're going to remain first for a very long time if getting Gustaberg outpost the following week is anything to go by.

    Anyway, on topic; Healing Staff is pretty much redundent since the introduction of the Light Staff. In the time between JP release and then, it was obviously a unique item and the only choice but now it's just a support beam for a healthy e-penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Anyway, on topic; Healing Staff is pretty much redundent since the introduction of the Light Staff. In the time between JP release and then, it was obviously a unique item and the only choice but now it's just a support beam for a healthy e-penis.
    It's funny because if it was HP and Paladin you're talking about a +50 HP item would be OMG must have, OMG OMG OMG. But enough MP to heal an extra 300 damage, and with MP being harder to get than HP, people call it e-penis support, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Anyway, on topic; Healing Staff is pretty much redundent since the introduction of the Light Staff. In the time between JP release and then, it was obviously a unique item and the only choice but now it's just a support beam for a healthy e-penis.
    It's funny because if it was HP and Paladin you're talking about a +50 HP item would be OMG must have, OMG OMG OMG. But enough MP to heal an extra 300 damage, and with MP being harder to get than HP, people call it e-penis support, lol.
    I don't see WHMs losing 1000+ MP in a matter of seconds.

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