New Dynamis Zones...nightmare mobs drop items?

[Maxxthepenguin]

I don't get it... above all its a game. I don't care if its a MMO, its a game, if it ceases to be fun why do you play? I have fun in this game with the people in this game and accomplishing hard things. A difficult task such as doing things without a subjob is fun to me, and I can't be the only person. In 5 years, when you aren't playing FFXI what does it matter what you accomplished? It doesn't. What is important is staying happy and enjoying things. I enjoy this game greatly, but this forum seems to never enjoy it. People bitch bitch bitch when really theres so much to enjoy about this game.

So really, what drives you to want to get these 'rewards,' what is the goal? I am sincerely asking because I don't understand it. If I choose to get a relic fully upgraded it will be because I think it will be enjoyable to get the item and use it. Thats not to say it wont be frustrating at some times, but those frustrations will be survivable and I will be happy to have gone past the difficulties.

[Maxxthepenguin]

youre an idiot, go back to alla plz

[Lordwafik]

whooooooooooooooooooooosh

[Maxxthepenguin]

whooooooooooooooooooooosh

life passing you by?

[Raineer]

'Fun' and 'Challenge' do not always coexist.

Believing otherwise is like saying "pac-man should always be fun, but then that fucking ghost ate me and it's not fun anymore, i quit"

[DrObvious]

So really, what drives you to want to get these 'rewards,' what is the goal? I am sincerely asking because I don't understand it. If I choose to get a relic fully upgraded it will be because I think it will be enjoyable to get the item and use it. Thats not to say it wont be frustrating at some times, but those frustrations will be survivable and I will be happy to have gone past the difficulties.

It's an mmorpg there are no goals. Wafik already answered you.

Has SE really conditioned people so well that they think fun and reward are mutually exclusive? What's the reasoning behind accepting stuff that is either one or the other; we should be demanding encouters that yield both.

[Maxxthepenguin]

So really, what drives you to want to get these 'rewards,' what is the goal? I am sincerely asking because I don't understand it. If I choose to get a relic fully upgraded it will be because I think it will be enjoyable to get the item and use it. Thats not to say it wont be frustrating at some times, but those frustrations will be survivable and I will be happy to have gone past the difficulties.

It's an mmorpg there are no goals. Wafik already answered you.

Has SE really conditioned people so well that they think fun and reward are mutually exclusive?

What does SE have to do with this? I don't find an ingame item much of a reward but it can be fun to get. So the reward is fun. Maybe its just personal philosophy but I try to do things for reasons, whether its for fun or friends or happiness or whatever... so thats my issue with what you guys are saying.
Wafik said there are goals ingame...

[Lordwafik]

I said there's goals in game, personal goals, but there isnt a "Goal for FFXI" in general.

[Viq]

Like Wafik said, the no subjob, limited time thing was cool at first, but once you've beaten it it just isn't cool anymore. What's fun about having to work around the limitations of an area that wasn't designed to be enjoyable or a long period of time like the original dynamis areas were? I've got all 3 titles and BRD cuffs+1 for my e-peen and I have no desire to ever go back to new dynamis areas that aren't named Tavnazian Safehold. Why not? Because they are just stupid areas that aren't as fun as the old ones. That's measuring fun as ENJOYMENT GAINED FROM PLAYING A VIDEO GAME. No enjoyment = no fun = new areas suck balls

[DrObvious]

What does SE have to do with this? I don't find an ingame item much of a reward but it can be fun to get. So the reward is fun. Maybe its just personal philosophy but I try to do things for reasons, whether its for fun or friends or happiness or whatever... so thats my issue with what you guys are saying.
Wafik said there are goals ingame...

They're only fun because they're new. Unlike the old dynamis zones, there really is no compelling reason to put them on farm status, which eventually is what you do to everything in this game...

[Genosync]

youre an idiot, go back to alla plz Maxxthepenguin