Dynamis - Tavnazia Unlocked

[Lordwafik]

no.

Fact : My dynamis LS used to be entirley BLM, 20-60 coins despite clearing each zone, 1-4 AF2. Most mobs dropped nothing at all, not even coins, the only time we'd break 100 coins is if we got a 100peice.

Fact : After placing thieves in the LS, coin rate jumped greatly, now I receive minimum 150 coins, I average 250 coins a zone though, my last windurst I got 400 coins (2x L.jadeshell 200 floating). Also the AF rate jumped from 1-4, to 5-15. The only places we get less, is BCD/Xarc, because there's not as many mobs to kill.

[Demetrios]

fact: i've seen 6 defending rings drop out of 15 kb kills and my LS had no th3 or th4

fact: ffxi drop rates are fucking random

[Lordwafik]

Yeah, so random that over 9 runs without thieves yeilded the same result of low rates, then doing over 20 runs with 2 added thieves yeilded almost double the result of the previous runs(with no thf), consistently.

Ok.

[Demetrios]

you're claiming TH yields 400-500% increase in drop rate over an entire dynamis... anyone else not notice a 400-500% increase on the drop rate of Herald Gaiters even if you put 3 TH4s in your main alliance at Tiamat?


you're probably not accounting for 1) your LS got better at doing what they do 2) you kill more things 3) it's random

[Lordwafik]

or
1) Dynamis isnt a HNM, chances of obtaining items off 100 mobs are greater than the chances of obtaining items off the 1 mob.
2) Not really, the 1st 4 runs were the "learning" runs, the next 4 runs we knew what we were doing 100% (still without thieves), even wiped the whole alchemy guild in bastok after win and same shitty drops.
3)1 of our thieves didnt even have TH3, it was TH2 and TH3, only recently the one with TH2 got a thf knife and AF2 hands, now our LS has TH4+TH3.

After our LS got the thieves, killing same amount of mobs yeilded in high drops, the only time it differed was when we did the new CoP dynamises, we got 15-20 coins per run.

Are you saying treasure hunter doesnt affect treasure?

[Kaylia]

I think he is just saying TH affect treasure drop by an amounts relatively insignifiant compared to the 200% drop rate some people are talking about.

I've hard time believing thief can increase drop rate so much, but meh, it's not impossible. A few of the best run I did were done with only a few thief, and not distributed evenly between all alliance.

[Lordwafik]

Actually reading my post again, I see where he had a problem with my post.

I said :

Place your theives strategically well and watch the drop rate rise.

He said :

make your thieves face east during 45% waxing gibbous new moon on firesday and watch placebo effect do its thing...

What I meant when I said "Strategically well" is , dont stick more than 2x thf in 1 party, split them between both alliences, etc.

From all my dynamis runs, I noticed the bigger drop rate when thieves were split apart into seperate parties. At first I did the dumb thing of 2x thf in 1 pt too, still got good drops, after I read somewhere on KI about thieves affecting their entire party's killshot, I split them up and the drop rate went even better.

[Roranora]

Gonna have to agree with Wafik and (omg!?) Nynja.. cause yeah, 15+ AF2 is pretty "average" per city now. I don't know if you don't completely clear the zones regularly yet Demetrios, but 300+ singles and 15+ AF2 can be obtained per city with a lot of consistency. I'm not trying to bash the new zones, but it can't be disputed that the previous ones aren't more lucrative.

I'm holding out for amazing rewards exclusive to Tavnazia. Seeing SE's recent obsession with rare/ex hq lately.. I'm predicting relic weapons -1, which of course, will require the complete relic weapon. :s

[Demosthenes11]

Gonna have to agree with Wafik and (omg!?) Nynja.. cause yeah, 15+ AF2 is pretty "average" per city now. I don't know if you don't completely clear the zones regularly yet Demetrios, but 300+ singles and 15+ AF2 can be obtained per city with a lot of consistency. I'm not trying to bash the new zones, but it can't be disputed that the previous ones aren't more lucrative.

I'm holding out for amazing rewards exclusive to Tavnazia. Seeing SE's recent obsession with rare/ex hq lately.. I'm predicting relic weapons -1, which of course, will require the complete relic weapon. :s

How gay would that be but then again, how fucking true that is...

DONT DO IT SE

[Razz]

Gonna have to agree with Wafik and (omg!?) Nynja.. cause yeah, 15+ AF2 is pretty "average" per city now. I don't know if you don't completely clear the zones regularly yet Demetrios, but 300+ singles and 15+ AF2 can be obtained per city with a lot of consistency. I'm not trying to bash the new zones, but it can't be disputed that the previous ones aren't more lucrative.

I'm holding out for amazing rewards exclusive to Tavnazia. Seeing SE's recent obsession with rare/ex hq lately.. I'm predicting relic weapons -1, which of course, will require the complete relic weapon. :s

How gay would that be but then again, how fucking true that is...

DONT DO IT SE

And hey guess what, you'll need 8k coins for the upgrade.

If they really do that, I'm going to file for divorce.

[Lordwafik]

I can just see the gobbie's dialogue

Hmm, so you've got with you a Mandau -1 and a Mandau ey? The fee for that comes down to a ten thousand byne bill, a Ranperre Goldpeice, and a Rimulimu Stripeshell. What? It's too much? Nah I know you can do it, you've got guts kid.

And he'd take the mandau off you and not give it back till you got the 3 coins :wink:

[Roranora]

Gjallarhorn +1 would be +3 to all songs though!

[Demetrios]

ridill and defending ring +1 plz

[Demosthenes11]

Gjallarhorn +1 would be +3 to all songs though!

it already is?

[Razz]

Gjallarhorn +1 would be +3 to all songs though!

it already is?

Its +2

[Demosthenes11]

Gjallarhorn +1 would be +3 to all songs though!

it already is?

Its +2

Hmmm, I cant just admit you are right, so uh um

STFU FGT UR GAY AND U JUST PLAI ALL DAI! MOOV OWTOF UR PARNTS BASEMEANT FGT

[NynJa]

We cleared the crabs, birds, dhalms, and most of the crawlers. Got 5 drops I think and over 100 coins.

So, lets get this straight:
1-In Buburimu, you got 5 AF (You didnt specify AF2-1 or AF2) that can be obtained in the starter cities , but the starter cities drop it in greater quantity.
2-In Buburimu, you got 100 coins in 2 hours, when you could have gotten 2-3x as much in a starter city.
3-In Buburimu, you got some AF2-1, which is: a-useless b-requires the regular AF2...



Other than a new key item and a new title, I dont see the point. The only good thing are the capes / belts, yet most of em suck.

bullshit you get 10-15 AF2 per starter city, maybe 1 out of 10 dynamises will be like that

ever done dynamis sandoria with no drops? i have, on many occasions

anyway about "useless -1" then don't fucking do these dynamises. they're ment for "advanced" players according to square, IE you've farmed the old ones for two years and have most of your AF2 already

Just did BEAUCEDINE (you know that area when you're glad just to see 4 AF's drop?), was a farming / attestation run for ppl who are close to stage 4:
63 - A one byne bill
2 - A sparkling stone
69 - A Tukuku whiteshell
2 - A jar of Goblin grease
21 - A copy of "Ginuva's Battle Theory"
1 - A chunk of wootz ore
49 - An Ordelle bronzepiece
4 - An infinity core
1 - A Lungo-Nango jadeshell
1 - A pile of relic iron
1 - A suit of wyrm mail
2 - A cleric's briault
1 - A pair of monster gaiters
1 - A colossal skull
1 - A vial of slime juice
1 - An attestation of harmony
1 - An abyss cuirass
1 - A bard's justaucorps
1 - A duelist's tabard
1 - A sorcerer's coat


Even 181 currency + a 100 piece, 281 currency in northlands. Really, wheres the fucking motivation to touch CoP areas ?

[Not Kuno]

Congrats, you got lucky. Doing bcd with 2 or more AF dropping is a fucking miracle.

[NynJa]

Place your theives strategically well and watch the drop rate rise.

Part of it is luck, part of it is having a strategist the run up to a T.

[Tom Chambers]

Maybe the motivation would be to get a cape or belt that's useful? I mean, instead of that awesome +18 attack on the BRD body, who really gets the most out of it, or the super uberness of +4 MND and +10 MAB on that DRK onry peice, or the incomparable Wyrm Mail, which totally makes obsolete every other peice of body armor a DRG can wear.

I mean, congratulations on making gil in Dynamis instead of doing ENMs or KSNMs or something. Cause that's what it was designed for, not to get badass equipment.

No wait, I mean, congratulations on the xp scrolls.

Seriously, you got one or two good peices of equipment that you couldn't get anywhere else. Wouldn't the motivation for the CoP Dynamises be the exact same thing?