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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Sept, in all honesty, other than bending over for Zaldof...do you ever really rest as your rdm, like "OOM Covert at 5 min" resting where an extra hMP+2 will actually affect around 50 mp or so ??
    Where in my posts does it say, "Oh god, I need another two MP while resting"? Wait, it does not. What exactly am I supposed to be arguing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Sept, in all honesty, other than bending over for Zaldof...do you ever really rest as your rdm, like "OOM Covert at 5 min" resting where an extra hMP+2 will actually affect around 50 mp or so ??
    Where in my posts does it say, "Oh god, I need another two MP while resting"? Wait, it does not. What exactly am I supposed to be arguing?
    Was making my point as to how hMP is pretty much useless for RDM's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    >>>Eventually<<< one will pop up for an insanely high price and if you have the dough you can obtain it. If not, it'll go to some JP who's more than willing to accept the current trend of hyperinflation.

    Are you blind or illiterate?

    That's at least how it is here. I know a LS member who was lusting after one for a while. This bonecrafter has one in his bazaar for 70 million. He didn't want to pay more than 60. He lost the chance at a Genie Weskit. Sold to a JP shortly after for the bazaar price.
    No, it wont, lol. Because the people crafting them are comissiong them for their friends.
    People dont synth Weskits for hope on HQing one to sell. Its like synthing errant caps hoping to make money off a Mahtama cape. It doesnt happen. It DOES NOT happen.


    Tunnelvision ftw.
    How can you compare Mahatma cape and Genie Weskits? Let's examine where Talons come from: Fafnir, Tiamat, Ouryu, Jormungand, Vrtra, Seiryu, Ash Dragon, and BC99 wyrm. Let's examine where Amnity cape comes from: Capricious Cassie.

    People on my server buy Talons and sell the NQs on AH. They bazaar the HQ for insanely high prices. I'm sorry your server is full of lv100 bonecraft BLMs, but most of 'em here are 100 Bonecraft NIN and THFs who want gil to buy things like Kraken club.

    Genie weskits sell in bazaar here. For example, my LS fund bought one for 30 million gil off of the AH. Want a screenshot? It's not ZOMGOMGZOMGOMG uber rare. It's rare, but if you had the gil and patience you could obtain it. If you don't want to pay that extra 10 mil because you think the crafter is charging too much, then you're not getting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Sept, in all honesty, other than bending over for Zaldof...do you ever really rest as your rdm, like "OOM Covert at 5 min" resting where an extra hMP+2 will actually affect around 50 mp or so ??
    Where in my posts does it say, "Oh god, I need another two MP while resting"? Wait, it does not. What exactly am I supposed to be arguing?
    Was making my point as to how hMP is pretty much useless for RDM's.
    It is hardly useless. Maybe I just have shitty luck with non-LS parties in KRT, (BRD: "Ballad, whats that, lawlz") but without resting a few ticks now and then there is no way I could stretch my MP between converts. But I'm not going to lose my mind and say that +4 hMP makes a worthless belt worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    >>>Eventually<<< one will pop up for an insanely high price and if you have the dough you can obtain it. If not, it'll go to some JP who's more than willing to accept the current trend of hyperinflation.

    Are you blind or illiterate?

    That's at least how it is here. I know a LS member who was lusting after one for a while. This bonecrafter has one in his bazaar for 70 million. He didn't want to pay more than 60. He lost the chance at a Genie Weskit. Sold to a JP shortly after for the bazaar price.
    No, it wont, lol. Because the people crafting them are comissiong them for their friends.
    People dont synth Weskits for hope on HQing one to sell. Its like synthing errant caps hoping to make money off a Mahtama cape. It doesnt happen. It DOES NOT happen.


    Tunnelvision ftw.
    How can you compare Mahatma cape and Genie Weskits? Let's examine where Talons come from: Fafnir, Tiamat, Ouryu, Jormungand, Vrtra, Seiryu, Ash Dragon, and BC99 wyrm. Let's examine where Amnity cape comes from: Capricious Cassie.

    People on my server buy Talons and sell the NQs on AH. They bazaar the HQ for insanely high prices. I'm sorry your server is full of lv100 bonecraft BLMs, but most of 'em here are 100 Bonecraft NIN and THFs who want gil to buy things like Kraken club.

    Genie weskits sell in bazaar here. It's not ZOMGOMGZOMGOMG uber rare. It's rare, but if you had the gil and patience you could obtain it. If you don't want to pay that extra 10 mil because you think the crafter is charging too much, then you're not getting it.
    Now lets make another comparisant:
    Errant Cape: Main Skill: Clothcraft (100 - Veteran)
    Igqira Weskit: Main Skill: Bonecraft (99 - Veteran), Sub-Skills: Leathercraft (? - Unknown) , Alchemy (? - Unknown)

    Errant Cape: 1 tier-0
    Igqira Weskit: 3 Tier-0 (The Leather and Alchemy are believed to be 59-60, considering Igqira Weskit uses Coeurl Leather which caps at 71)


    Once again, you've prooven your ignorance towards craftsmanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    >>>Eventually<<< one will pop up for an insanely high price and if you have the dough you can obtain it. If not, it'll go to some JP who's more than willing to accept the current trend of hyperinflation.

    Are you blind or illiterate?

    That's at least how it is here. I know a LS member who was lusting after one for a while. This bonecrafter has one in his bazaar for 70 million. He didn't want to pay more than 60. He lost the chance at a Genie Weskit. Sold to a JP shortly after for the bazaar price.
    No, it wont, lol. Because the people crafting them are comissiong them for their friends.
    People dont synth Weskits for hope on HQing one to sell. Its like synthing errant caps hoping to make money off a Mahtama cape. It doesnt happen. It DOES NOT happen.


    Tunnelvision ftw.
    How can you compare Mahatma cape and Genie Weskits? Let's examine where Talons come from: Fafnir, Tiamat, Ouryu, Jormungand, Vrtra, Seiryu, Ash Dragon, and BC99 wyrm. Let's examine where Amnity cape comes from: Capricious Cassie.

    People on my server buy Talons and sell the NQs on AH. They bazaar the HQ for insanely high prices. I'm sorry your server is full of lv100 bonecraft BLMs, but most of 'em here are 100 Bonecraft NIN and THFs who want gil to buy things like Kraken club.

    Genie weskits sell in bazaar here. It's not ZOMGOMGZOMGOMG uber rare. It's rare, but if you had the gil and patience you could obtain it. If you don't want to pay that extra 10 mil because you think the crafter is charging too much, then you're not getting it.
    Now lets make another comparisant:
    Errant Cape: Main Skill: Clothcraft (100 - Veteran)
    Igqira Weskit: Main Skill: Bonecraft (99 - Veteran), Sub-Skills: Leathercraft (? - Unknown) , Alchemy (? - Unknown)

    Errant Cape: 1 tier-0
    Igqira Weskit: 3 Tier-0 (The Leather and Alchemy are believed to be 59-60, considering Igqira Weskit uses Coeurl Leather which caps at 71)


    Once again, you've prooven your ignorance towards craftsmanship.
    How many Mahatma capes are on your server? One on mine.

    How many Genie weskits are on your server? Nine that I know of.

    Errant cape has been in the game a lot longer. I'm going to go with statistics and say it's more common to HQ a Genie Weskit due to sheer availability of supplies in spite of its 3 sub requirement. Amity capes have a drop rate that's pretty comparable to Ridill. Dragon talons drop almost every other day on Fafnir, and pretty common from the huge number of sources I listed.

    Want a screenshot of my LS bank buying a Genie weskit off the AH? No wait, that never happened... that NEVER happens =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Your servers bonecrafters must have horseshoes up their ass...



    You want a screenshot of a bonecrafter in my LS going 0/40+ on Genie Weskit for himself ??
    Perhaps you want to see the screenshots I took when I broke 4 of 9 weskit synths...done on full moon earthsday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    >>>Eventually<<< one will pop up for an insanely high price and if you have the dough you can obtain it. If not, it'll go to some JP who's more than willing to accept the current trend of hyperinflation.

    Are you blind or illiterate?

    That's at least how it is here. I know a LS member who was lusting after one for a while. This bonecrafter has one in his bazaar for 70 million. He didn't want to pay more than 60. He lost the chance at a Genie Weskit. Sold to a JP shortly after for the bazaar price.
    No, it wont, lol. Because the people crafting them are comissiong them for their friends.
    People dont synth Weskits for hope on HQing one to sell. Its like synthing errant caps hoping to make money off a Mahtama cape. It doesnt happen. It DOES NOT happen.


    Tunnelvision ftw.
    How can you compare Mahatma cape and Genie Weskits? Let's examine where Talons come from: Fafnir, Tiamat, Ouryu, Jormungand, Vrtra, Seiryu, Ash Dragon, and BC99 wyrm. Let's examine where Amnity cape comes from: Capricious Cassie.

    People on my server buy Talons and sell the NQs on AH. They bazaar the HQ for insanely high prices. I'm sorry your server is full of lv100 bonecraft BLMs, but most of 'em here are 100 Bonecraft NIN and THFs who want gil to buy things like Kraken club.

    Genie weskits sell in bazaar here. It's not ZOMGOMGZOMGOMG uber rare. It's rare, but if you had the gil and patience you could obtain it. If you don't want to pay that extra 10 mil because you think the crafter is charging too much, then you're not getting it.
    Now lets make another comparisant:
    Errant Cape: Main Skill: Clothcraft (100 - Veteran)
    Igqira Weskit: Main Skill: Bonecraft (99 - Veteran), Sub-Skills: Leathercraft (? - Unknown) , Alchemy (? - Unknown)

    Errant Cape: 1 tier-0
    Igqira Weskit: 3 Tier-0 (The Leather and Alchemy are believed to be 59-60, considering Igqira Weskit uses Coeurl Leather which caps at 71)


    Once again, you've prooven your ignorance towards craftsmanship.
    Both synths can't break tier0(omg this means they both have 1% chance of HQ, read on). There are so many talons/nq's floating around, the chance for a Genie FAR outweighs that of Mahatma Cape, rare drop from a 21-24 NM vs. sky is camped everyday, faf/nid pops everyday, all mobs who can drop talons drop them more times than they don't. In 1 week to be generous let's say 2 Amity Capes drop, and in that week 30 Talons dropped, thats a FAR better chance of getting a Genie than a Mahatma Cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    >>>Eventually<<< one will pop up for an insanely high price and if you have the dough you can obtain it. If not, it'll go to some JP who's more than willing to accept the current trend of hyperinflation.

    Are you blind or illiterate?

    That's at least how it is here. I know a LS member who was lusting after one for a while. This bonecrafter has one in his bazaar for 70 million. He didn't want to pay more than 60. He lost the chance at a Genie Weskit. Sold to a JP shortly after for the bazaar price.
    No, it wont, lol. Because the people crafting them are comissiong them for their friends.
    People dont synth Weskits for hope on HQing one to sell. Its like synthing errant caps hoping to make money off a Mahtama cape. It doesnt happen. It DOES NOT happen.


    Tunnelvision ftw.
    How can you compare Mahatma cape and Genie Weskits? Let's examine where Talons come from: Fafnir, Tiamat, Ouryu, Jormungand, Vrtra, Seiryu, Ash Dragon, and BC99 wyrm. Let's examine where Amnity cape comes from: Capricious Cassie.

    People on my server buy Talons and sell the NQs on AH. They bazaar the HQ for insanely high prices. I'm sorry your server is full of lv100 bonecraft BLMs, but most of 'em here are 100 Bonecraft NIN and THFs who want gil to buy things like Kraken club.

    Genie weskits sell in bazaar here. It's not ZOMGOMGZOMGOMG uber rare. It's rare, but if you had the gil and patience you could obtain it. If you don't want to pay that extra 10 mil because you think the crafter is charging too much, then you're not getting it.
    Now lets make another comparisant:
    Errant Cape: Main Skill: Clothcraft (100 - Veteran)
    Igqira Weskit: Main Skill: Bonecraft (99 - Veteran), Sub-Skills: Leathercraft (? - Unknown) , Alchemy (? - Unknown)

    Errant Cape: 1 tier-0
    Igqira Weskit: 3 Tier-0 (The Leather and Alchemy are believed to be 59-60, considering Igqira Weskit uses Coeurl Leather which caps at 71)


    Once again, you've prooven your ignorance towards craftsmanship.
    Both synths can't break tier0(omg this means they both have 1% chance of HQ, read on). There are so many talons/nq's floating around, the chance for a Genie FAR outweighs that of Mahatma Cape, rare drop from a 21-24 NM vs. sky is camped everyday, faf/nid pops everyday, all mobs who can drop talons drop them more times than they don't. In 1 week to be generous let's say 2 Amity Capes drop, and in that week 30 Talons dropped, thats a FAR better chance of getting a Genie than a Mahatma Cape.
    I was under the impression that to HQ a craft with multiple subcrafts you had to get a HQ roll on all the subcrafts ??

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    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Errant cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Amity cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Errant cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.
    That would have to be a lot of Dragon Talons...feel free to do the math.


    I guess all your blm's have Zenith Mitts -1 ?? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Amity cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.
    Sorry D: semi paying attention to this Chemistry lecture

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Errant cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.
    That would have to be a lot of Dragon Talons...feel free to do the math.


    I guess all your blm's have Zenith Mitts -1 ?? lol
    Again, how many Mahatma capes are on your server? Remember, peace cape is a mid-way synth that has a tier 1 HQ rate, so if you HQ (1/12) or break (10%) that there's zero chance at a Errant cape.

    Four do, another one is about 0/80 on it so he's due for an HQ. Most of these guys have been playing this game with me for about two years now.

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    Jesus Flux, don't you understand the same can be said for RoZ AFs? Are you not reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Even if that's true, the sheer availability of talons makes it a more common HQ. I really doubt there are even 100 Errant capes per server. If Errant cape dropped as commonly as a Talon, then you could make some comparsion between them.
    That would have to be a lot of Dragon Talons...feel free to do the math.


    I guess all your blm's have Zenith Mitts -1 ?? lol
    You 2 give me a headache... cant just agree to disagree...

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    Ban Nynja and Flux preeze.

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    Ban Nynja and Flux preeze.
    Ban BRP and Tom Chambers preeze ?

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    I don't want anyone banned, not having someone to kick in the fucking teeth makes the internet dull.

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    Subcrafts don't affect HQ rate, just break rate (assuming you break the proper tiers on them, anyway).

    Amity cape is 5% break, not 10%.

    Dragon Talons are far too common and Genie Weskits aren't that rare.

    Simple.

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