Dynamis - Tavnazia Unlocked

[Kurp]

Oh yes. I forget you've defeated Dyna-Tav with the Fafnir only alliance.

Wait until it's released and tried maybe? Or, sheep it up and flame everything SE without a clue. It seems to the be the beaten path 'round here.

[Tom Chambers]

I wonder if Tom Chambers works for SE or something. You do NOT applaud a company for coming out with things that are harder if the rewards are not close to equal to the rewards for easier encounters. I can take 18 people into Dynamis-Bastok and probably get 10x the shit out of it in 15 minutes than I expect to get from Dyn-Tav.

It's fun until your shell runs out of money and you wake up one day and say...fuck, what did all that money/time get me?

A) Yeah, I work for SE. You caught me, you fucking gumshoe, you.

B) Yeah, you can get 10x 'the shit' but HAY! You already got that AF a year a go if you've been doing the same fucking zones over and over as we all have. And when Dynamis is just a big BCNM60 for the leet gilz...yeah, that's when something new should be added.

C) And, yes, 1 mil isn't shit anymore anyway. Even if it's just for the one guy who doesn't have his Bard's Roundlet yet, wouldn't he pay that much for it if it was on the AH? At this point the Dynamis isn't much compared to what you would probably pay for the (usually crap/macro/jueno wear) gear that drops in it.

[NynJa]

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I wouldnt waste my time / xp with Tavnzanian Safehold unless:
100 currency drops with a 15% drop rate.
northlands AF drops here with a 15% drop rate.

[Pacha]

...this update is shaping up to be one of the lamest things ever implemented into the game. I was looking foward to the new limbus areas because of the possibility of a new boss and maybe a new set of armor similar to homam, etc. However, it looks like these new areas are just geared towards getting coins which is lame for pld's, such as myself, who have no need for the coins. 75 coins to enter...? these metal chips better drop from teh bosses or something (they hint that there's another way to get them) because nobody is going to want to risk 75 coins on an area that we don't know anything about in which they could possibly take a huge loss.

The new dynamis area looks pretty terrible too. Limiting the number of people that can enter the area is going to make for even more logistical problems and setup problems.

...and Brenner...wtf. is that?? Is some new PvP crap (something I never do in the first place) that is only slightly changed from the original going to motivate me in any way to play this game? No.

I hate to be the perverbial "Debby Downer," "Pessimistic Polly" or what have you about this update but let's face it, this crap is laaaaame. The biggest problem, in my oppinion, with the new content is that there are no new rewards that will motivate people to take time out of their day and get excited about the game. With limbus, they actually put good items into the game and made fun areas (even though they were just rehashing zones and mobs like they always do). I don't like to be so negative about the game because I've always liked FFXI and I want to keep playing it. However, for people like me who have been playing a really long time and who have done most of the content in the game, updates like this are really disheartening because SE continues to make the same mistakes they've made in the past. This new expansion pack is pretty much my last hope for this game. If they fail again on ToA like they basically did on sea and CoP (for the most part) it's going to be hard for me to justify paying these people 12 dollars a month.

[levish]

It's probably short to keep people moving in and out and queues from piling up.

If it's designed to be completed in a shorter amount of time I don't think it matters, I just hope the loot pool and drop rates are decent.

[Tom Chambers]

I have to agree, there needs to be some *GOOD* reward for Ballista/Brenner. But then you run into the issue of having jobs be SOMEWHAT on the same footing in PvP. My ideal of FFXI would have great gear dropping from varied things. Right now we have conquest (kinda, not as good as it should be), popped mobs, timed spawned mobs, and...semi-instanced zones. Something great that you could get from PvP and PvP only would breath alot of life into the game.

[Demetrios]

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[Kurp]

If you're not into trying the new shit, don't diss it.

QFT :D

[Pacha]

The bahamut series of fights was a very cool thing however, you have to admit that the rewards for the fights simply weren't there. It remains to be seen what will drop from the new fights.

[Raineh]

Now dont get me wrong, im not gona say dynamis-tav set up this way is the best idea ever, but you gotta think.....

Remember the update 6 months ago? all they added was the claim delay, and a few rather silly "dont kill ph nms for 72hrs to make xxx pop" nms?
And the rare/ex lizzy and emp hairpin argus.
People could still bot claims, RMT still camped mobs such as o.kote and thief knife nms, and the new nms just sucked.

Or the 3monthly updates before that, when they would only add a bit on to cop story and fk everyone else?

Well hey, now were geting tons of content maybe you dont like it, but its there and all shiny.

I dunno it just seems retarded to be like "omg sucks so bad the world is ending" compaired to what we used to get, at least there trying?
Lets face it with ToAH coming very soon they didnt have to add a damn thing.......

[Gilanth]

The rewards for R2 are fine IMO.

[Correction]

The only thing I see them trying to do is demolish my established Dynamis LS.

'Hey guys good job on clearing all 3 new CoP zones. Bad news: only half of you get to come to dynamis-tavnazia, and I'm not bringing along any of the jobs I deem a liability for the severe time constraints of the new boss zone. See you all in 6 days in outlands kthxbye.'

Even if you create two perfect alliances from your Valk/Bubu/Qufim team, you can't enter dynamis-t at the same time, meaning your hourglass cycle is pushed back even further the next time just so everyone can enter again at the same time.

Who wants to bet against the drop rates sucking? C'mon...

[Demetrios]

The bahamut series of fights was a very cool thing however, you have to admit that the rewards for the fights simply weren't there. It remains to be seen what will drop from the new fights.

Bahamut's Mask
Bahamut's Staff
Cashmere Cloth (yes, one JSE body right there)
Kunwu Iron
Wyrm horn

I'd love to see Bahamut's Cuirass with -15% damage taken, but these aren't bad items considering this BC only takes 30 minutes to win and you stand to make 10-50 million gil in AHable items alone. I sure know what I'm going to do with Bahamut's staves when all of my SMNs get them

[Sethe]

If you don't like it, go outside and play.

Or go work for SE and get something done, eh?

[Nirokun!]

Tom Chambers...

What exactly would you wear as body for whm? You said Cleric's Briault is just a macro'ed piece...

Lets have a looky here~

-Enmity Body: Best thing out there is raven body, enmity -9
+MP whm: Best thing out there is Dalmatica (LOL)
+MND (LOL) whm: Mahatma (again, LOL) body

What other stat is good...oh, refresh, we have 3 pieces~

Noble's (Aristocrat's LOL) tunic
Cleric's Briault
Dalmatica (LOL)

With noble's and cleric's only working on a specific line of spells, noble's being with cures, and cleric's being with regens, they're both situational. But Cleric's has more mp, and some -enmity, where nobles does not, making cleric's the best body piece (currently) for a whm. There are other spells that you cast besides cure, -na and buffs, and a nice little bit of -enmity helps.

My question is, what do YOU use thats so good? Because i want it

[Genosync]

Tom Chambers...

What exactly would you wear as body for whm? You said Cleric's Briault is just a macro'ed piece...

If I had a Cleric's Briault (when my whm is 75), I'd sell my Noble's and just use that and Blessed.

+10% to cures? eh, w/e. not economical and just another piece of shit floating around in your inventory.

[Pacha]

I could be wrong but are you the Demetrios with the galka pld and nin with d. ring and so forth?? If so I've seen your posts on other forums and have a lot of respect for what you've done in the game and with your character. (I play a galka as well and am proud of being the only galka on Lakshmi with koenig cuirass).

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue but just wanting to discuss these drops from the standpoint of someone such as myself who really wants to see some items put into the game that eclipse the old stuff and motivate me to continue to play pld. Bahamut's mask with its +8 enmity and dragon killer effects is cool, don't get me wrong, but let's face it, it's arguable whether or not it's even slightly better than aegishjalmr. In fact, some would argue that aegishjalmr, which has been in the game forever, is actually better than bahamut's mask because it has +HP. Bahamut's staff is basically the same deal, it's good but there's already stuff in the game that's just as good if not better. As far as the money drops go, they're not really an issue because in my LS they would be given to people and not sold for a split (not a bad thing it's just how we usually do it).

With that being said, basically why I say the drops for the new fights such as bahamut aren't that great is because the ends don't seem to justify the means. In other words, fighting 10-15 enm's in order to get one cloud evoker that allows you to fight Ouryu for a monarch's orb (that has pre-reqs to fight it in the first place) to fight another very difficult fight which is arguably the hardest in the game now (more pre-reqs) should produce better end results than items such as the staff and mask that aren't really better than other items that are much easier to obtain.

In closing, I like the new fights, they're cool and fun. However, it's hard to motivate people to do them once and very hard to get people to do them again and again because the drops aren't great and it's very difficult and time consuming to even fight them in the first place. If there was a baby d. ring or -15% dmg reduced body armor or something that dropped from these fights it would be a different story. Seriously though, don't you think something really good, that's better than other older stuff should drop from that hardest fight in the game?

[Elcura]

nawt fuck dynamis.

There's the perfect Zilart Dynamis

or the Joke of CoP dynamis.

I still blame enix for this ^_^ The game wasnt BS like this till they came in.

You would blame Enix, cause it's easier then admitting that SQUARE fucked up.

I'm sure Enix's teams just charge into the FFXI department and just start fucking things up.

I guess you're gonna blame Enix for every bad Square title made since the merger? Why did I even ask that?~ of course you are!

[Nirokun!]

Tom Chambers...

What exactly would you wear as body for whm? You said Cleric's Briault is just a macro'ed piece...

If I had a Cleric's Briault (when my whm is 75), I'd sell my Noble's and just use that and Blessed.

+10% to cures? eh, w/e. not economical and just another piece of shit floating around in your inventory.

I have both, and a macro that sets in Nobles and switches back out to cleric's :X and sometimes i like to run around if af2, other times noble's + Blessed, im a cutaru you know (*'3')<3

[Daahan]

Dynamis-Xarcabard is not an overcrowded event (at least on our server), and from the looks of it I would take Xarcabard over Tavnazia any time any day.

Like everyone in this thread is saying, unless it's extremely high drop rates on everything, then no thanks.

Of course I would like to try it for the sake of doing something new. However, I have a bad feeling I'll be yawning a lot.

I'm with you Wafik baby, Zilart Dynamis 4tmfw.