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  1. #61
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    In closing, I like the new fights, they're cool and fun. However, it's hard to motivate people to do them once and very hard to get people to do them again and again because the drops aren't great and it's very difficult and time consuming to even fight them in the first place. If there was a baby d. ring or -15% dmg reduced body armor or something that dropped from these fights it would be a different story. Seriously though, don't you think something really good, that's better than other older stuff should drop from that hardest fight in the game?
    But your looking at gear for just tanks, sure it would be nice but look at the horn for thfs body or ore for drk gear, if you were a thf or drk do you think you would rephrased that? Ya you can get ore and the horn off the cop dragons, but to the ppl fighting for those drops, would, I think, have a lot more fun fighting something hard and getting some satisfaction out of it rather than fighting something ez. Then again there ppl that want to do things the ez way.

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    In closing, I like the new fights, they're cool and fun. However, it's hard to motivate people to do them once and very hard to get people to do them again and again because the drops aren't great and it's very difficult and time consuming to even fight them in the first place. If there was a baby d. ring or -15% dmg reduced body armor or something that dropped from these fights it would be a different story. Seriously though, don't you think something really good, that's better than other older stuff should drop from that hardest fight in the game?
    I agree with pacha.

    Lets face it the new dynamis won't be any better than the ones they already added ( in term of drop rates) and people forget people will take sometime to figure out what to do in dynamis tav so your mostly likely be wasting 1 million gil for 15 min first time.

    the only interesting part for me is New bahamut Fight and 18 man summoner and this update is shaping to be the worse update yet.

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    I'm still apalled that it's 1mil for an initial 15 minutes in the dynamis. Who knows, maybe time extensions will be easy to get to, but the fact that there can only be 18 people and only so much can get done, plus the high chance that drop rates are going to be same as the icelands dynamis, sucks.

    I think people would be a lot more kosher with this if it wasn't a million gil. Oh well, que sera sera.

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    ya I love the old dynamis's, i agree with LW that the drop rate is shit in the new ones and not really worth your time but... it is allot of fun exploring finding new ways to put your job to the test... and if you don’t want to spend 1mil for 18ppl split it up lol 1mil / 18 = 55,555.555 so not that bad just to explore it and check it out ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falce

    the only interesting part for me is New bahamut Fight and 18 man summoner and this update is shaping to be the worse update yet.
    FU different colour charged items will own JP demanded it!

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    I can see it now, everyone enters, mid buffing the pld DCs along with one of the mages, they get back in, rebuff and re-reraise, 10 minute warning. Puller pulls, clear the mobs, 3 minute warning, puller pulls, everyone zergs for time extension, get 15 minute extension but wipe.

    I seriously hope it doesnt turn out like that

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    My main problem isn't with the challenge, or even the drop rate of new dynamis - it's limiting the amount of people by so much. My Dynamis LS regularly has 50+ people on attendance, so we have to split when we want to do a new dynamis.

    It's better than having people sit out, but it's such a hassle. Neither group gets to have the ideal # of jobs (although we cleared Buburimu with ~30, and we're sure as hell gonna try with the other zones). And now, even though they designed to have 36 just to get Tavnazia, they're making HALF of those people sit out? I just don't see the logic (which probably means there is none).

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    SE shot for the sky too soon with Zilart HNM, their drops are still the best (for the most part) for the jobs that can wear them. So if they add gear which would make people completely stop camping the 3 Kings and Fafnir, it would in turn have to be gear which would be more or less broken. SE has ran out of gear that's good, because our precedence is set on what the kings and faf can drop. They tried with Homam and Nashira, however each Nashira is only situational and not that great anyway except 2 pieces maybe, and Homam has limited jobs to use (yes its all the nonmage jobs not listed on sky god gear), but more or less its a macro piece for 3 of the 4 listed, and a toy for the 4th(pld).

    People will be camping the 3 kings until this game dies.

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    Next patch:

    Dynamis Kazham
    Where one person alone pits themselves against the beastmen hordes. You start with 30 seconds and you must find the extension, while trying to recover your subjob and mainjob abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    15mins starting time and no SJ entry

    as opposed to Xarca's 1h and relaxing around with SJ


    hmm
    lol you sure do like to speculate. What if getting subjobs back requirse you to walk 30 seconds to a ??? And after killing 1 NM you get a 45 minute TE? Jesus christ can you honestly not fathom a way that this won't suck? lol. So it's 18 people, obviously the boss is EASIER than Dynamis Lord otherwise it would be impossible. And 18 people is a fuck of a lot easier to organize than 36 or 64. It's just a single alliance.

    This has a ton of potential if you ask me. Same AF drops as Xarcabard, with one fourth of the competition lotting against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    So it's 18 people, obviously the boss is EASIER than Dynamis Lord otherwise it would be impossible.
    Thank god the dev team can tear AV a new one with 18 people. If this reflects the dev team's skill the new dynamis is gonna be on GMs Funniest Linkshell videos for the upcoming months.

    I can flamm my brenner while sporting my panzer mask and schutzing my eisenkampf schin protectors all the while my arco de veloccccccidad shines bright on my misteltein.

    I might step on some schallers while my koenig cuirass falls into japahaha hands because of monsters randomnly de-claiming. It feels good to be a gangster though.

    I think we should just wait till the dats are on our system so we can itemtool the shit out of the update and see if theres anything german sounding and worthy in it to even try the new avatar huge alliance style battles,the flamebrenner ballista+1 battles and the new Dynamis - OMGHURRYYOUFUCKERSTIMEISRUNNINGOUT.

    Noone knows what this might bring. This isn't the first update notice to make us wonder (and ultimately get dissapointed by and) about their content. Lets give it another shot and swallow this one and perhaps be surprised by TOA in april.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Next patch:

    Dynamis Kazham
    Where one person alone pits themselves against the beastmen hordes. You start with 30 seconds and you must find the extension, while trying to recover your subjob and mainjob abilities.
    I'd play it.

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    The 18 person requirement looks fine:

    60 or so people - old dynamis
    50 or so people - new dynamis + tav, or old
    30 or so people - new dynamis, or old
    18 or so people - tav, or farm old

    For most ls sizes you can now do something. Unfortunately if you are trying to get currency your pretty much stuck in the original cities. It also helps smaller ls's that want north lands af2 without having to allign schedules with other ls's for clear.

    Yeah Tav is going to suck hardcore for a few months but people will figure it out, and I doubt SE will add any new zones for a long time. In SE's usual slogan: "We don't need to make more content if a small amount of content is next to impossible to finish."

    Besides I'm supprised that they are doing anything pre-expansion.

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    People are forgetting that Dynamis Lord was impossible back in the day, and people thought pessimisstically of that too. It took a long time to get him down as it will probably take people with Tavnazia but people finally did. Compare these ridiculous restrictions to the ridiculous difficulty of Dynamis Lord, and realize that there will probably be marvelous rewards along the lines of Shadow Mantle and Shadow Ring for getting through Dynamis Tavnazia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berticus
    Compare these ridiculous restrictions to the ridiculous difficulty of Dynamis Lord, and realize that there will probably be marvelous rewards along the lines of Shadow Mantle and Shadow Ring for getting through Dynamis Tavnazia.
    Ok Quicklet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    The 18 person requirement looks fine:

    60 or so people - old dynamis
    50 or so people - new dynamis + tav, or old
    30 or so people - new dynamis, or old
    18 or so people - tav, or farm old

    For most ls sizes you can now do something. Unfortunately if you are trying to get currency your pretty much stuck in the original cities. It also helps smaller ls's that want north lands af2 without having to allign schedules with other ls's for clear.

    Yeah Tav is going to suck hardcore for a few months but people will figure it out, and I doubt SE will add any new zones for a long time. In SE's usual slogan: "We don't need to make more content if a small amount of content is next to impossible to finish."

    Besides I'm supprised that they are doing anything pre-expansion.
    Except a small LS with 18 or so people will never get Tav access.

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    Dream Earring: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally Nulls MP Cost for Spell, on Darkday Int +20

    Dream Torque: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally ignores Enemy Defense, on Darkday Str +20

    I'm sure people would do this dynamis if these dropped...

    STARTING: Speculation mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    Dream Earring: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally Nulls MP Cost for Spell, on Darkday Int +20

    Dream Torque: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally ignores Enemy Defense, on Darkday Str +20

    I'm sure people would do this dynamis if these dropped...

    STARTING: Speculation mode.
    where did you find the info for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    Dream Earring: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally Nulls MP Cost for Spell, Dark Weather Int +20

    Dream Torque: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally ignores Enemy Defense, Dark Weather Str +20

    I'm sure people would do this dynamis if these dropped...

    STARTING: Speculation mode.
    fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    15mins starting time and no SJ entry

    as opposed to Xarca's 1h and relaxing around with SJ


    hmm
    lol you sure do like to speculate. What if getting subjobs back requirse you to walk 30 seconds to a ??? And after killing 1 NM you get a 45 minute TE? Jesus christ can you honestly not fathom a way that this won't suck? lol. So it's 18 people, obviously the boss is EASIER than Dynamis Lord otherwise it would be impossible. And 18 people is a fuck of a lot easier to organize than 36 or 64. It's just a single alliance.

    This has a ton of potential if you ask me. Same AF drops as Xarcabard, with one fourth of the competition lotting against you.
    Have you ever even been to Dynamis-Xarcabard, or are you just talking shit on shit you have no fucking clue about ??

    Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
    "Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
    3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

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