Dynamis - Tavnazia Unlocked

[Xunder]

Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
"Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

That's an easy fix just have a seperate point system for Tav. So people who get points for going to Tav can only use those points for drops from Dynamis Tav.

[Mifaco]

REMINDER: The "complex topology" FORCED square-enix to make the limit 18 members. They didn't make this choice themselves!

[NynJa]

Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
"Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

That's an easy fix just have a seperate point system for Tav. So people who get points for going to Tav can only use those points for drops from Dynamis Tav.

That's a brilliant idea. And then you can also incorporate seperate points systems for the CoP areas, and maybe one for Northlands too...and eventually you'll have specific points systems for each area !!!


And then those people who are forced (yeah, forced) to sit out of Tavnzania, will go elsewhere because they didnt request 2 days off / week from work just to sit at home scratching their balls going "/l good luck guyz!!!111111"

[TT]

i want a dream torque...



megaboss drops item for shadow ring +1 and mantle +1


wouldnt that be a kick in the balls. lol

[Charitwo]

Dream Earring: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally Nulls MP Cost for Spell, on Darkday Int +20

Dream Torque: LvL 75. All Jobs: Occasionally ignores Enemy Defense, on Darkday Str +20

I'm sure people would do this dynamis if these dropped...

STARTING: Speculation mode.

Wheeling Thrust, anyone?

[MisterBob]

Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
"Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

That's an easy fix just have a seperate point system for Tav. So people who get points for going to Tav can only use those points for drops from Dynamis Tav.

That's a brilliant idea. And then you can also incorporate seperate points systems for the CoP areas, and maybe one for Northlands too...and eventually you'll have specific points systems for each area !!!


And then those people who are forced (yeah, forced) to sit out of Tavnzania, will go elsewhere because they didnt request 2 days off / week from work just to sit at home scratching their balls going "/l good luck guyz!!!111111"

Oh noes! Or maybe you could plan it in like, advance. Perhaps have 18 go to tav while another group goes to a northland! Since like, you don't need 64 people to farm Xarcabard!

[FFXIFlux]

I was looking forward to the end of Feb for new Dynamis and Limbus. Now I'm looking forward to the end of Feb for RF Online so I have a MMORPG to play. SE has fucking lost it.

[Maguspk]

[quote=Nirokun!]

Tom Chambers...

What exactly would you wear as body for whm? You said Cleric's Briault is just a macro'ed piece...

If I had a Cleric's Briault (when my whm is 75), I'd sell my Noble's and just use that and Blessed.

+10% to cures? eh, w/e. not economical and just another piece of shit floating around in your inventory.

I have both, and a macro that sets in Nobles and switches back out to cleric's :X and sometimes i like to run around if af2, other times noble's + Blessed, im a cutaru you know (*'3')<3[/quote:89c59]

AF2 Body, AF2 Legs, AF2 Feet and Nashira Turban = Win. If I ever get Manteel, it'd be Manteel+ Turban + AF2 Legs/Feet.

[Heian]

Great I can't wait for this.

[Banigaru]

REMINDER: The "complex topology" FORCED square-enix to make the limit 18 members. They didn't make this choice themselves!

lets discuss the openness and connectedness of the system.

And I'm disappointed the WHM armour drama never really got anywhere in this thread. I hate whm but AF2 body makes it sexy and therefor playable, I really hated using dalmatica on whm >.>

And this better not suck!

[NynJa]

Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
"Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

That's an easy fix just have a seperate point system for Tav. So people who get points for going to Tav can only use those points for drops from Dynamis Tav.

That's a brilliant idea. And then you can also incorporate seperate points systems for the CoP areas, and maybe one for Northlands too...and eventually you'll have specific points systems for each area !!!


And then those people who are forced (yeah, forced) to sit out of Tavnzania, will go elsewhere because they didnt request 2 days off / week from work just to sit at home scratching their balls going "/l good luck guyz!!!111111"

Oh noes! Or maybe you could plan it in like, advance. Perhaps have 18 go to tav while another group goes to a northland! Since like, you don't need 64 people to farm Xarcabard!

Ah yes, thats brilliant.

"You find a pair of Assassin Armlets on the Kindred Whatever."
wasted because the person in line for them (not me) is in Dynamis-Tavnzania.
"You find a Duelist's Chapeau on the Kindred Whatever"
wasted because the person in line for it is in Dynamis-Tavnzania.


and your logic is fucking stupid.
Why farm Xarcabard with 32 when you can farm with 50 ??

[Sekkite]

Dream Cape - Occasionally removes the casting time on your next spell. On Darksday: Int+5.

Dream Gauntlets - Occasionally adds the effect of 'souleater' to multiple-hit weapon skills. On Darksday: Dex+5.


Come on, who wouldn't want their very own suicide cape/gauntlets?

[Sekkite]

Yeah, its easy to organize 18 people.
"Ok, you 17 + me are coming, the rest of you are sitting out. Yes, I'm forcing this upon my loyal dynamis members, you'll get no points, so people can jump ahead of you for that AF you want."
3 weeks later, you're doing Dynamis-Xarcabard with 18 people...

That's an easy fix just have a seperate point system for Tav. So people who get points for going to Tav can only use those points for drops from Dynamis Tav.

That's a brilliant idea. And then you can also incorporate seperate points systems for the CoP areas, and maybe one for Northlands too...and eventually you'll have specific points systems for each area !!!


And then those people who are forced (yeah, forced) to sit out of Tavnzania, will go elsewhere because they didnt request 2 days off / week from work just to sit at home scratching their balls going "/l good luck guyz!!!111111"

Oh noes! Or maybe you could plan it in like, advance. Perhaps have 18 go to tav while another group goes to a northland! Since like, you don't need 64 people to farm Xarcabard!

Ah yes, thats brilliant.

"You find a pair of Assassin Armlets on the Kindred Whatever."
wasted because the person in line for them (not me) is in Dynamis-Tavnzania.
"You find a Duelist's Chapeau on the Kindred Whatever"
wasted because the person in line for it is in Dynamis-Tavnzania.


and your logic is fucking stupid.
Why farm Xarcabard with 32 when you can farm with 50 ??

[TT]

cape would be fun to time magic bursts with.

[epigram]

I think you should note that all HNM content is not designed for all HNM ls's. Really, my ls will most likely never do tav on any serious bases. It would cut too many people out of a cycle.

I'm in a part time HNM ls, we have 45-50 people on the books, and each day we might have maybe 10-30 or so on during peak NA hours. Ground HNM, most of Sea, and Dynamis Tav offer little for us. 3 Hours camping a ground NM for a chance to fight a monster that has a chance of dropping something you need with 18 people also isn't good use of time when it's the entire night. Sea similarly isn't very useful when it takes you a few hours to pop an NM or two with very low drop rates on one or two items. This results in a lot of part time HNM ls's to resolve to finding alternatives to reward their people, but unfortunately due to incredibly poor itemization by SE this really isn't all too possible.

Now if your a hard core ls comprised of mainly high school and college kids you probably have already exhausted all the old content and spending 8 hours for 1 item for 1 person seems pretty reasonable. But for people in an ls where most of the people work 40+ hours a week and have families it may take 2 to 10 days to even get 8 hours of play time, so saying sea sucks or dynamis tav sucks is very appropriate due to the higher reward per unit time ratio that guides thier decisions.

In the end I think Tav will be good, it will keep some hard core ls's out of xarc for a few cycles which would cause less drama and hopefully mutually reward both types of ls's in the end.

Still I think SE has a lot of issues end game. Besides the obvious total lack of no real developer to player feed back, the biggest issue I see is that there are just too many people in end game under pretty much the same constraints and resources as there were a year or so ago. There are also no real great gear alternatives to a lot of zilart gear despite 2+ years of updates.

But I'm pretty sure randomly going through the dats, changing the skins of the three most ugly armors you find and tossing it on an enlarged reskined monster in some zone is incredibly difficult to do.

[Epincus]

One question: I know this doesn't fit in with the theme of "Screw SE" that everyone's been going with, but might as well *try* to make a positive here?

Original CoP zones are 36, new zone is 18. Why not just stagger the times so your LS goes in with 2-4 separate waves? It'd be more convoluted, yes, but given how SE never bothered to fix Valkurm's bugged-to-hell boss, it's not like there'd be major competition to get into this zone.

Figure this way we can learn about the zone that much faster, as opposed to the weeks of speculation for Antaeus.

[Quixotic]

I was looking forward to the end of Feb for new Dynamis and Limbus. Now I'm looking forward to the end of Feb for RF Online so I have a MMORPG to play. SE has fucking lost it.

Yay

[Maguspk]

I was looking forward to the end of Feb for new Dynamis and Limbus. Now I'm looking forward to the end of Feb for RF Online so I have a MMORPG to play. SE has fucking lost it.

RF Online When? I played the Asian version and was so lost lol.

[Remembrance]

Ima laugh when the stones are Diabolos.

"k, lets pull another one.."
"xxxthfxxx's ranged attack misses the Diabolos effigy/icon/replica"
"xxxrdmxxx uses chainspell!"
15 or so stuns later after this thing is shitting Taurus.. or fomors or.. whatever..

"Resist! Diabolos effigy/icon/replica resists stun."

"Diabolos effigy/icon/replica readies Nightmare."

=(

[Quicklet]

Ok Quicklet.

10,000-piece lawl.