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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrcloudz
    And yet you are 2/5 on Nashira. Was there really not a single person (heaven forbid, an optimistic one) that had their eyes set on those legs?
    Nope. I was the only person with even close to the points. Everyone else wanted earrings more. And the person that got the body the first time... quit right after, lol. I use the legs for sleeps and such, but 5 enfeebling on top of 344 isn't noticeable on anything except like Kirin, and that only for paralyze/slow. Silence is still a 5% crap shoot (even with elemental seal), same as with the gods. You're better to have ninjas enfeeble them as their slow and paralyze will actually be noticeable, but of course their recast timers are retarded. Maybe the trick is to go RDM/NIN with lots of magic and elemental accuracy!

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    I currently own the legs for my rdm. Very nice piece for augmenting my enfeebling casts. Also worth macroing in for utsusemi casts when subbing RDM. I don't remember which, but at least one of them a second was removed from the recast.

    Now I'm aiming for the body piece to use on rdm and blm. Not many options available for dark skill on rdm and it's a nice boost for blm too. Really helps out the drain/aspir casts.

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    I got feet this weekend, and have to say, VERY nice^^ still aiming for legs tho. Would like the body one day too for my rdm and blm, but for now, all about the legs.btw, these shoes not only rock in stats, but are just way too cute^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccatu
    Would like the body one day too for my rdm and blm
    Good to know...oh wait.

    75RDM|68BLM

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada
    anybody have any in-depth observations on how magic accuracy works, compared to just normal +enfeeble/elemental skill?
    everyday since it came out, and m.acc sucks

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    From my experience as RDM, Magic Accuracy is quite helpful when Resist builds up on a certain mob.

    For example Gravity is a bugger to stick on Kirin after a certain amount of casts and normally, a rdm would use Mahatma Slops or Nashira Legs ( which is rare) to cast the first few times for potency but when it starts to resist heavily, Magic Accuracy increases the chance of landing the spell although the amount of time it will stick(related to potency) decreases.

    What i do is after a no. of casts i even out my enfeebling and INT with Magic Accuracy and then eventually turn full Magic accuracy to land it if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccatu
    Would like the body one day too for my rdm and blm
    Good to know...oh wait.

    75RDM|68BLM
    Dude lol...it says one day btw, did you not notice 75RDM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccatu
    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccatu
    Would like the body one day too for my rdm and blm
    Good to know...oh wait.

    75RDM|68BLM
    Dude lol...it says one day btw, did you not notice 75RDM?
    Perhaps I can clarify for you, since you may not read this board to often. On this board The shoes are widely considered a blm item, at least I think thats what he's getting at.

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    hey Slusher^^, I do read, just rarely post. And no, if you notice, he wasnt attacking me over the shoes, he was attacking me over the body lol. Yeah, my blm is 68, but my rdm is 75. I said that I would like to have the body one day, and seeing as it is a hard drop, and other blms in my ls are in line for it first, I figure it will be awhile before I get the body. By that time, my blm will be 75. And actually, shoes are nice for blm and rdm too. Rostrums are better for some things, but shoes are nice for others for blm, but shoes are just as nice for rdms.

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    head: red mage
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    hands: red mage

    (*'-')b

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    Feet are as good for a rdm as a blm, especially considering rdm can't use rostrum pumps.

    More like..

    Head - Free lot
    Body - Mithra
    Hands - Summoner
    Legs - Red Mage
    Feet - Rdm/Blm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    Feet are as good for a rdm as a blm, especially considering rdm can't use rostrum pumps.

    More like..

    Head - Free lot
    Body - Mithra
    Hands - Summoner
    Legs - Red Mage
    Feet - Rdm/Blm
    Why would an RDM want to use Rostrum Pumps? RDMs that don't have equip-change macros need to go play DRG. Mahatma Pigaches & Wise Pigaches > Nashira feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar
    Feet are as good for a rdm as a blm, especially considering rdm can't use rostrum pumps.

    More like..

    Head - Free lot
    Body - Mithra
    Hands - Summoner
    Legs - Red Mage
    Feet - Rdm/Blm
    Why would an RDM want to use Rostrum Pumps? RDMs that don't have equip-change macros need to go play DRG. Mahatma Pigaches & Wise Pigaches > Nashira feet.
    what about af2? ;3

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    Yeah, that too. Magic Atk Bonus +4 > 5 ele skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Yeah, that too. Magic Atk Bonus +4 > 5 ele skill.
    Only if you can reliably land your nuke. I think on IT+ mobs 5 elemental might edge out 4 MAB. 4MAB is going to be less than 4% extra damage, I wouldn't be too surprised if 5 elemental gives you comparably less resists on VT and higher mobs. For RDM with their middling elemental that is.

    As for magic accuracy, I haven't seen any good tests of it, but from merits and such it seems like it's the same as enfeebling/elemental etc. i.e. it effects land rate/wearoff but not potency.

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    I think I'd honestly only go for the feet when nobody else really wanted them just to have. Right now I"m aiming for the body for the boost it'll give my rdm and blm on dark magic casts. Nothing like watching somebody bust out a 600+ drain in dynamis.

    The head would be cool sometime in the future but not too terribly important since it's really just a free wise cap.

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    My aspirs haven't really gotten noticeably better with body. Maybe a bit more consistent but max damage isn't improved. I guess that shouldn't be a surprise since even elemental sealing aspir will give a very wide range for amount drained. Maybe INT effects Aspir, I dunno, so macoring nashira in for errant isn't a huge boost, or maybe 5 dark/accuracy just isn't big enough to be easily noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSugahpie
    Yeah, that too. Magic Atk Bonus +4 > 5 ele skill.
    Only if you can reliably land your nuke. I think on IT+ mobs 5 elemental might edge out 4 MAB. 4MAB is going to be less than 4% extra damage, I wouldn't be too surprised if 5 elemental gives you comparably less resists on VT and higher mobs. For RDM with their middling elemental that is.

    As for magic accuracy, I haven't seen any good tests of it, but from merits and such it seems like it's the same as enfeebling/elemental etc. i.e. it effects land rate/wearoff but not potency.
    Anything VT or higher you really want skill or accuracy over MAB. Soloing Ghrahs in the garden I will get resisted to hell and back because a C+ elemental skill is really crappy. You get +20 skill from Warlock's Chapeau and Duelist's Tights, but the resist rate will still kick your ass.

    In all likelyhood, I personally would probably be better off sticking to ice, wind, and earth spells since I have merits in all three and HQ staves for them, but the lure of Thunder III is so strong... (My Blizzard III is very rarely resisted, Thunder III makes me cry.)

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    I think a rdm choosing MaB over Ele skill on nukes should go play drg, or macroing in mind or int gears over ele skill. Now obviously the errant/mahatma would macro in for whm enfeebles..

    "Why would an RDM want to use Rostrum Pumps?"

    Why would a rdm wanna use af2 body? Thats a pretty stupid question. If you cant see the benefit of rostrum pumps if rdm equipable, I can't help you.

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    the sweatpants aren't very sexy, but the +enfeeb is nice on leg slot...

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