Women, get all the lovin you can now

[DarkMistSkeleton]

I think think that if the circumstances are right (As others have said) if raped I think that you should have the choice to abort. But if it was your choice to have the sex and you werent on birth control or using a condom than I think you should have to keep it. Its kinda bullshit that people can't own up to their actions just because they didn't use a condom or birth control! Hell... You can even put it up for adoption instead of aborting a potential genius that could invent something that someone else couldn't!

Who wants to do this all the time:
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/avery/de.jpg
I mean... Doesn't that have to get to you... Your removing a fetus... That really has to get to you sometimes if your the one removing it... I bet even over time the woman feels guilty for getting an abortion unless your heartless.

[Melisande]

Pro-choice.

Im all for abortion, why should others have to pay for the choices one dumb girl/boy made?

If a girl is incapable of taking care of a child she will go on welfare or some other social service, money which is paid for by taxpayers.

We got enough worthless people on this earth, dont need more.

A ding ding ding, we have a winner!

I concur. Aggressive words, but bassically what I believe. Earth is reaching its population limit anyway, we dont have enough resources to continue our current population at 0 growth, most of the wealthiest nations have the smallest populations, etc.

Anyway if you are really and truly anti-abortion, support contraceptives. Young people will have sex regardless, but if you teach proper contraceptive use and how to avoid STDs, maybe you know we wouldnt need abortions or have STD pandemics. Just a thought.

Edit: Link to the Wealthiest Nations list http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTE...K:4607,00.html

[Almaa]

Pro-choice.

Im all for abortion, why should others have to pay for the choices one dumb girl/boy made?

If a girl is incapable of taking care of a child she will go on welfare or some other social service, money which is paid for by taxpayers.

We got enough worthless people on this earth, dont need more.

A ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Even further than this, the child born to a mother who cannot handle raising a child will go through a horrible childhood and possibly entire life, if you people are so pro-life maybe you should sign up to adopt all the babies that would otherwise be aborted. It's easy to say you stand for something, but it's a lot harder to do something about it.

And you know what really pisses me off, when someone shows me a picture of an ultrasound picture of the creature in their belly and tell me that it's soooo cute. stfu you dumb bitch, it's a grainy picture of an alien looking thing, it's not cute, in fact, it's rather ugly.

[Volken]

Pro-choice.

Im all for abortion, why should others have to pay for the choices one dumb girl/boy made?

If a girl is incapable of taking care of a child she will go on welfare or some other social service, money which is paid for by taxpayers.

We got enough worthless people on this earth, dont need more.

A ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Even further than this, the child born to a mother who cannot handle raising a child will go through a horrible childhood and possibly entire life, if you people are so pro-life maybe you should sign up to adopt all the babies that would otherwise be aborted. It's easy to say you stand for something, but it's a lot harder to do something about it.

People not wanting to adopt children makes abortion ok?

[Zigma]

If the doctors don't do it, then I will.


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[Amarok]

You should take better care of your coat hangers. All bent and stuff...

[Volken]

You should take better care of your coat hangers. All bent and stuff...

He already used it once.

[Zigma]

You should take better care of your coat hangers. All bent and stuff...

I have nice wooden ones. This is the only iron one i have and will get the job done if abortion becomes illegal.

[Melisande]

You should take better care of your coat hangers. All bent and stuff...

I have nice wooden ones. This is the only iron one i have and will get the job done if abortion becomes illegal.

Can I award you an honorary internet PhD?

[Zigma]

You should take better care of your coat hangers. All bent and stuff...

I have nice wooden ones. This is the only iron one i have and will get the job done if abortion becomes illegal.

Can I award you an honorary internet PhD?

I have 5 already dating back to 99 :D

[Genosync]

I advocate the one-choice rule.

Choose to have sex, can't abort it.

Don't choose to have sex (rape, etc.), you can choose to abort it.

[Nirokun!]

I have the solution (putting it into action to save the world)

im on step 2 :D

Step 1: Inundate the world with homosexual propaganda.
Step 2: Reason with the Bi/Heterosexuals into purely homosexual thinking.
Step 3: Find and kill all the people with STDs.
Step 4: Make it rain lube and porn.
Step 5: Enjoy planned parenthood in 17 years.

Really now, people with STDs need to be shot and killed. Sterilize the corpses. Its a fast and simple way to deal with both overpopulation, and a big hinderence to life's physical pleasures.

Seriously. I dont like having to worry about AIDS. ._. I dont care about people i dont know, and if some disappeared, they were bad, bad people. Suicide bomber bad. Its the same thing. Think about it.

[Enkidu]

yet whats created hardly represents a human for quite some time, its purely cells coming together.

And what is your criteria for being human? Because honestly a human is nothing more then cells coming together at any age.

the ability to form complex thoughts, in any capacity.

if the argument is that whats created at the moment of conception is a sentient being, I hope you're a vegetarian, or you're a hypocrite.

Thought is subjective. I could define a complex thought at the zygote stage (the complexity to form) or a complex thought as self awareness (well after birth). Fact is from an objective standpoint a human is created at conception.

I agree that it's simply not right to bring a lot of these children into the world if they have no place to go, but if a family is willing to adopt (and can afford a child ie. not just adopting to "save a child") then by all means the child should be allowed to live. Right now people are just irresponsible, if they were forced to live with their decisions unwanted pregnancy would definitely go down.

As for being hypocrytical, why? Because I'm against the killing of a member of my species (in certain circumstances), I should therefore be against killing a member of a different species? Uhh... No.

[Yummy]

the term "pro-choice" is the worst euphemism in all of politics.

and almaa i expect a better argument from you, admit that your birthday comment was a bit lame

anyways this is the most unsolvable issue in our world today. nobody truly has a clue on how any of this works.

[Lordwafik]

I have a better solution :

Let the woman chose, but if she has like abortion #2, and seems unstable, the doctor rips her ovaries out.

[Correction]

abotion issue reduced to funny comics:

http://www.ep.tc/junior/index.html

Ok so they're not funny. But the fact that they exist is a source of great amusement for me.

And to quote penn jilette:

"Everyone's pro choice AND pro life, it's whether you're for or against abortion that's the issue."

But then again you can't expect anybody to actually apply reasonable terms to their enemies, I guess.

"YOU ANTI-CHOICE NAZI"

"YOU ANTI-LIFE BABY MURDERER"

Yeah yeah, good job not actually using the word 'abortion.'

[Lylie]

I dunno man, the way I see it, The child is a living person. I don't believe that abortion is right. No, it has nothing to do with religious influence, just my logic tells me that the fetus is a new life form at the moment of conception. I see every abortion as a potential person that could have changed the world, but was abandoned instead just because the mom was too much of a coward to take responsibility of her actions.

now I know we could argue and say "what if it was rape?" waaah she should be able to have an abortion if it wasn't her choice. Well, it does seem unfair.. but since when was life ever fair anyway?

I kind of cried when I saw that.

What if the woman didn't want to have a baby?

What if the woman is actually poor, and her child is going to have a real bad life, have some diseases because she can't pay for the medicines, doctors and such?

What if the doctors know for sure the child is retarded (don't know the english name for this, trysomy?) and the woman prefer to not have the child, and avoid him to have a f'ing painful life?

What if the woman have been abused?

Some people are talking about adoption, but do you know how it is to have a new person in your body for 9 months? Baby isn't something you create in 1 day by adding sugar to water. It takes 9 months, its sometimes painfull, the woman changes alot while this time, mentally AND physically. A baby isn't something you just give away to some random people and get over it.

I swear, you men are all asshole. All you do is play with your penis 5min and let the woman do all the job for 9 months. Then, come to teach you what to do with your body.

[DarkMistSkeleton]

You should have to have people vote on wether you can get an abortion or not...

5 votes to abort so n so's baby
10 votes against...

Well looks like your stuck with it so n so!

[Correction]

What if the woman didn't want to have a baby?

BITCH STOP FUCKIN'! PUT THE DICK DOWN!

[Kuponut]

Personally, I feel that if a woman were to get pregnant, that they should be the one who is able to decide what they want or need to do, since they would be the one who would be carrying the child if they chose to have it. I don't really think that the man in the relationship or sex should be able to decide for her either, and I don't think that them saying that they should have a say in the matter because it would be their own offspring is reasonable either, because it would be the woman caring for the child, not the man. If a woman wanted to have the child, the guy shouldn't be able to stop her from having it, and if she didn't want to have the child, the guy shouldn't be able to make her have it.

To the people saying something along the lines of that it was her own fault for getting pregnant, so she has to take responsibility and have the child as punishment sort of, don't you think that that is sort of terrible? To the parents, a child should bring happiness or some sort of joy into their lives, a child shouldn't be a punishment.

It's late... no clue what I am really saying, will check tomorrow I suppose.