Post Multi-Hit WS Nerf Ballista.

[Takeno]

yah, i always thought it was pretty cheap and stupid to just get 300 tp and pwn sum stupid blm. I simply went mnk/war all the time hell, i even went mnk/pld(lol flash ftw!). That is how i became the ballista player i am. I was able to kill mnk/sams back then and i still am. I guess all that practice paid off, since i was able to manage the lack of subjob in ballista royale and became the shiva champ

[Cursed]

yeah, mnk/wars are just teh sex when played right. This will probably re-emerge as the best mnk sub job combo again. berserk and warcry are just too hard to part with.

[Sorrower]

The one thing MNK brought to the table that no one else did was a far superior spot dmg output. DRK/SAMs have big WS's too, but they also have alot of usefull tools like Ab Spells, Stun, Drain etc etc. It was in my opinion fair to have mnk be the 1 shot killing machine it was. It was it's only trump card. Wars can go either full attack/full defense, support. Just ask any BLM or WHM what it feels like to have a war standing next to them at all times voking off them and they will say its invaluable. Ninjas are great assasins, almost as good as thiefs.
But it's not just mnk that has suffered, although it has suffered the most.
Do you think it's ballance that a job like PLD can cure itself, take massive amounts of dmg, and deal a vorpal blade almost as damaging as a rampage or asuran fists? When i say almost 100-150 DMG difference isnt big . That's what we are looking at today. Asuran Fists for 300-400 dmg, and Vorpal blades for 150-250 DMG. From what i've seen in the new ballista format, it seems the more Hits in the ws, the greater its nerf. Rampage used to do 700 avg, lows of 400, highs of 1100. Averaging now at 400, Highs of 600. Asuran fists has been totally gimped. highs of 700. avg of 400. an 8 hit ws should not do the same dmg as a 5 hit ws. especially from a job that is DMG specific. And of course the RDMs and BLM will pwn even more now. Having taken away melee's only way of countering the nukes, Melee are reduced to nothing more the TP sources.

That's why guillotine can do just as much as asuran in a pt setting yet i can only do like 3/4 of asuran's dmg in ballista, if that sometimes. and the best part of it was reraising and getting one shotted by another asuran fists with 1100+ hp on me. Literally one shotted. Hmmm, no thanks, was broken if u ask me. The best was a PLD could vorpal blade me for insane dmg, yet he's not a DD and doesn't take dmg. Pld/nin is ridiculous in ballista if u can't find a way to get their shadows down. I think ballista is meant for some jobs and not others and i never had a problem with that, but the reason i don't go as much as i used to is because watching asuran fists hit you for 1100+ and u didn't even get like 2 swings in, damn... Mnk/Drg ftw

Btw, one more thing, have you ever seen a drk be able to cast a spell while getting melee'd besides stun and possibly sleep. most of the time you get interuppted, and your absorbs are a huge tool as a drk. Drk just sucks for ballista, that's why i never go unless with LS mates.

[Twolves]

What about like Dragon kick/howling fist,blade ten,spiral hell,or whatever wouldnt they be better then the multihit ws now?

[Genosync]

Stupid fucking NIN uses Blade: Jin.
Synchro takes 699 points of damage (684 in my nuking gear is my max, and that was through stoneskin).

fuck this game. that happened in brenner and was the first thing that happened in the match to me.

[Tilo]

I have no sympathy for dumbass blms who cry about ballista cuz they die alot. I admit that I have had a lot of practice, but I believe that blm (I play taru) is the most well off in the ballista setting. It's just so simple to own anyone and stay alive 90% of the match. The only time blm is fucking worthless is in a no subjob situation. If you are versing opponents with any kind of a brain, they will demolish you before you can even cast stun.

I believe every job is good in ballista if it is played right -which is stating the obvious-, but the weakest are undoubtedly smn (even with diabolos), and brd (though with the right songs and gear, they take better damage than full koenig plds).

As far as the multi hit ws nerf. I can't say I am fond of it. Yes it sucks a big sack of testicles to get smashed with an asuran fist (or rampage or guillotine) as a mage, or even as a regular melee, but I think it is more detrimental to the system to fuck over damage to the point of worthless numbers like 200-400. I also play as war, and even if I get raped to the point of anal bleeding, everything is that much better when you take off invis and bust out a 1200 rampage to that unsuspecting drk/sam/blm/whatever.

[BRP]

The only time blm is fucking worthless is in a no subjob situation, and are completely alone.

Fix'd a lil.

[Tilo]

It's too bad I do not have the video, or even know where to get it, of the Titan team running through our melees, brd and rdm, and raping me in like 2 seconds during ballista royale. It was fun, but it was also depressing.

blm = fail with no subjob.

[Kuponut]

I haven't really done Ballista much, only real time I ever tried it this DRK/WAR kept running at me as THF/NIN, and I kept killing them easily, so they called a GM on me for hacking because I kept hitting them 4-6 times in a row sometimes. After that it just hasn't interested me =/

[edgarfigaro]

It's too bad I do not have the video, or even know where to get it, of the Titan team running through our melees, brd and rdm, and raping me in like 2 seconds during ballista royale. It was fun, but it was also depressing.

blm = fail with no subjob.

I think phoenix's blm (mystywysty) has died once so far in the ballista royale. Maybe channel4newsteam can kill her more than once...it might be possible.

[Cursed]

I have no sympathy for dumbass blms who cry about ballista cuz they die alot. I admit that I have had a lot of practice, but I believe that blm (I play taru) is the most well off in the ballista setting. It's just so simple to own anyone and stay alive 90% of the match. The only time blm is fucking worthless is in a no subjob situation. If you are versing opponents with any kind of a brain, they will demolish you before you can even cast stun.

I believe every job is good in ballista if it is played right -which is stating the obvious-, but the weakest are undoubtedly smn (even with diabolos), and brd (though with the right songs and gear, they take better damage than full koenig plds).

As far as the multi hit ws nerf. I can't say I am fond of it. Yes it sucks a big sack of testicles to get smashed with an asuran fist (or rampage or guillotine) as a mage, or even as a regular melee, but I think it is more detrimental to the system to fuck over damage to the point of worthless numbers like 200-400. I also play as war, and even if I get raped to the point of anal bleeding, everything is that much better when you take off invis and bust out a 1200 rampage to that unsuspecting drk/sam/blm/whatever.

Not saying this is a lie, but what's your Ballista set up like?
As war i always go in with Koenig hands, Genbu Kabuto, Haidate, Osode, Unicorn boots, warewolf belt, knightly mantle, Bomb Core ring, Flame ring, Brutall earring, Supponomimmi earring, Peacock charm, Rosenbegon*spl check Bow. I use Tacos and avg rampage is around 400-600 pre WS nerf. Less if its against THFs. I have tired the FULL ATK gear approuch and get knocked to crud in about 20 seconds that way.

[Takeno]

thats cuz mnk > all

[Cursed]

idk man, MNKs aren't giving me as much trouble these days as thiefs are. Wish i knew about the advantages of going full HP+VIT+DEF+ as war earlier.

[stormos]

idk man, MNKs aren't giving me as much trouble these days as thiefs are. Wish i knew about the advantages of going full HP+VIT+DEF+ as war earlier.

I did the HP+VIT+DEF and ate tacos on my rng. MNKs were doing 150-300 asuran lol(post multihit in ballista nerf). Even after eating tacos, i still hit 550-900 sidewinders. RNG is the shit now XD

[XxSlusherxx]

I did the HP+VIT+DEF and ate tacos on my rng. MNKs were doing 150-300 asuran lol(post multihit in ballista nerf). Even after eating tacos, i still hit 550-900 sidewinders. RNG is the shit now XD

nin/rng 8)

[stormos]

I did the HP+VIT+DEF and ate tacos on my rng. MNKs were doing 150-300 asuran lol(post multihit in ballista nerf). Even after eating tacos, i still hit 550-900 sidewinders. RNG is the shit now XD

nin/rng 8)

I dont really consider nin/rng a threat unless they are named teen. He is probably the most annoying nin in 60cap. Ever.

[Paralyzed]

I don't really mind MNKs so much (especially now asuran fist does such little damage...), it's those god damn thieves that never stick around, but the minute you run away they start calling you a pussy. -_-