Magnetic Earring Testing

[MisterBob]

I practically sub SMN exclusively.

I stopped reading there

[Tyche]

no you didnt, you know you read the rest of my post you damn liar! Anyway, we tank EVERYTHING with PLD cept tiamat. I AA rot a lot. Not that i need justify it necause someone on another server tries to tell me how to play my job when they've never seen me. Im a damn fine WHM.

[Pizzabox]

Ethereal's actually pretty good for WHM - the leet ones at least. The ones that actually balance HP+/MP+ and don't just horde all +MP/-HP and get one shotted by random AoEs from Wyrms, dynamis mobs, etc.

It doesn't look too hot when you make comparisons to the damage you receive and what you can cast from that damage... but, look at is this way - It's all FREE mp regardless. You're going to get hit no matter what, so you might as well get some free MP back. The HP+ on the earring is really good too.

Or you can be a good whm and not get hit. I dont know many mobs that do much more then 200 AOE and if they do you should have stoneskin up to block most that anyways. So in the best situation you get 6MP back every 5mins or so from an AoE if you dont ever bother with stoneskin(This is giving you the benefit).

Now considering the Magnetic adds to Conserve MP proc rate thats will probably net you 6MP or more every 5min and it gives an additional 20MP without any -HP.

IMO only a foolish whm would take Etheral over Magnetic

[Septimus]

You get hit for 100 damage, you gain 3MP.

300 hp = 9 mp

9 mp = cure 1

cure 1 = 35hp

300/35 = > 10% = Defending Earring :D

On the other hand...

Stoneskin blocks 350 damage at the theoretical cap.

350HP = 29MP

Etherial earring is 3%

350HP = 10MP

You will have to cast Cure 1 10 times to make up for the 350 HP lost, at a cost of 80 MP.

So that 10 MP costs 80MP with Etherial Earring, whereas Stoneskin costs 29MP.

Stoneskin wins!

[Raineer]

You get hit for 100 damage, you gain 3MP.

300 hp = 9 mp

9 mp = cure 1

cure 1 = 35hp

300/35 = > 10% = Defending Earring :D

On the other hand...

Stoneskin blocks 350 damage at the theoretical cap.

350HP = 29MP

Etherial earring is 3%

350HP = 10MP

You will have to cast Cure 1 10 times to make up for the 350 HP lost, at a cost of 80 MP.

So that 10 MP costs 80MP with Etherial Earring, whereas Stoneskin costs 29MP.

Stoneskin wins!

PLD/RDM 4tw?

[Septimus]

You get hit for 100 damage, you gain 3MP.

300 hp = 9 mp

9 mp = cure 1

cure 1 = 35hp

300/35 = > 10% = Defending Earring :D

On the other hand...

Stoneskin blocks 350 damage at the theoretical cap.

350HP = 29MP

Etherial earring is 3%

350HP = 10MP

You will have to cast Cure 1 10 times to make up for the 350 HP lost, at a cost of 80 MP.

So that 10 MP costs 80MP with Etherial Earring, whereas Stoneskin costs 29MP.

Stoneskin wins!

PLD/RDM 4tw?

I guess it depends if they can hit the theoretical cap on stoneskin...

[Not Kuno]

You get hit for 100 damage, you gain 3MP.

300 hp = 9 mp

9 mp = cure 1

cure 1 = 35hp

300/35 = > 10% = Defending Earring :D

On the other hand...

Stoneskin blocks 350 damage at the theoretical cap.

350HP = 29MP

Etherial earring is 3%

350HP = 10MP

You will have to cast Cure 1 10 times to make up for the 350 HP lost, at a cost of 80 MP.

So that 10 MP costs 80MP with Etherial Earring, whereas Stoneskin costs 29MP.

Stoneskin wins!

PLD/RDM 4tw?

I guess it depends if they can hit the theoretical cap on stoneskin...

Sept lets go get some Stoneskin torques.

[Septimus]

[quote=Not Kuno]

You get hit for 100 damage, you gain 3MP.

300 hp = 9 mp

9 mp = cure 1

cure 1 = 35hp

300/35 = > 10% = Defending Earring :D

On the other hand...

Stoneskin blocks 350 damage at the theoretical cap.

350HP = 29MP

Etherial earring is 3%

350HP = 10MP

You will have to cast Cure 1 10 times to make up for the 350 HP lost, at a cost of 80 MP.

So that 10 MP costs 80MP with Etherial Earring, whereas Stoneskin costs 29MP.

Stoneskin wins!

PLD/RDM 4tw?

I guess it depends if they can hit the theoretical cap on stoneskin...

Sept lets go get some Stoneskin torques.[/quote:4a7a8]

I want a Stone Gorget so badly...

[Not Kuno]

Er yeah that's what I ment. XD

[Raineer]

As do I, unfortunately I swore I would kill myself if I ever re-entered Promyvion-Vahzl after finally defeating it with my CoP "static" which wouldn't have been able to chain 3 in dunes.

[grunion]

Does it suck in comparison to either Static or Ethereal. Hell yes, and thats all that matters.

the other earrings have cool stats but for 75brd 75smn, the cool stats don't help. so i'm going with it not for conserve MP but so i can replace my boroka earring.

[Lockecole]

Does it suck in comparison to either Static or Ethereal. Hell yes, and thats all that matters.

the other earrings have cool stats but for 75brd 75smn, the cool stats don't help. so i'm going with it not for conserve MP but so i can replace my boroka earring.

And you dont think you're gonna regret getting an earring so you have one extra inventory spot? I'm not trying to convert people here, but seriously think about it. How many people have you seen in your LS tear their hair out over the fact that they decided they'd never play a job ever, and ended up passing on such a useful item? (I.E. Suppanomimi)

I'm just saying think about it...this is a long term one time decision. Do you see people getting Ethereal and then claiming it blows after seeing its usefulness? No. There's already been several people wishing they never got Magnetic. Grass is sometimes greener on the other side. That's all I'm saying. Wether you or anyone else gets Magnetic or anything else will never effect me, but we're here to help eachother out on these forums and help people make better, more informed decisions. Or at least that's what it used to be for.

[Hirronimus]

How many people have you seen in your LS tear their hair out over the fact that they decided they'd never play a job ever, and ended up passing on such a useful item?

Weighing decision between picking an item you can use now vs an item you /might/ use if you change your mind about leveling particular job down the road god knows when, should not be that dificult. On top of that there's perhaps a "utility" job your LS needs or asks you to play for majority of events vs. the hobby job that you play for your own amuzement.

[Mifaco]

I'm surprised there's any debate over the correct earring to pick.

The correct choices are:

Suppanomimi
Tamas Ring
Magnetic Earring

The incorrect choices are:

Knight's Earring
Sattva Ring
Hollow Earring

If you picked all of the above, you may as well delete your character and start over

[Krandor]

Why would you say Sattva Ring? I myself only play tank jobs cause it's the only thing that really entertains me, I'll never level a mage job being Galka, and for a fair number of melee jobs the difference between a Rajas and a Flame Ring would be rather minor imo.

[Raineer]

um, was tamas a typo or something?

Inventory space? Yes

Gimp? Yes

Get a real ring instead.

[inafume]

How many people have you seen in your LS tear their hair out over the fact that they decided they'd never play a job ever, and ended up passing on such a useful item?

Weighing decision between picking an item you can use now vs an item you /might/ use if you change your mind about leveling particular job down the road god knows when, should not be that dificult. On top of that there's perhaps a "utility" job your LS needs or asks you to play for majority of events vs. the hobby job that you play for your own amuzement.

This is what I did in picking Magentic. If I wanted to pick for the future I'd have gotten a Static, but my BLM is 55 right now, and there's no guarantee I'll ever get it to 75 (or 72).

Magnetic is useful to my main mage job (BRD), and the other 2 earrings don't really come close in usefulness. Certainly it doesn't mean it's useful to you, but I'm not regretting getting it, and I don't see regretting it in the future, either.

[FFXIFlux]

I'm surprised there's any debate over the correct earring to pick.

The correct choices are:

Suppanomimi
Tamas Ring
Magnetic Earring

The incorrect choices are:

Knight's Earring
Sattva Ring
Hollow Earring

If you picked all of the above, you may as well delete your character and start over

Tamas is 2nd best by a long shot behind Raja and Magnetic is looking pretty weak.

[Hirronimus]

I regret getting Tamas over Rajas, even tho I have BRD and RDM at 75.

[Meropi]

For me, as WHM, Magnetic all the way. I dont need the attack and evasion in exp nor in HNM. The damage to MP sounds nice, but I dont get hit that often, not even at wyrm fights. I use enough -enmity gear that it's not a huge problem for me.

Also, chances are if you ARE a WHM getting hit in a wyrm fight, you're going down, and pretty fast (and no, I dont whore MP.. I have 898 HP and 1041MP). Converting that damage to mp won't mean a ton after you reraise.

Magnetic earring:
MP +20 - almost a free astral earring
Conserve MP +5 - even if I'm subbing smn I can have conserve mp? SWEET.. even if it doesn't proc often, it's still nice.
Spell interruption rate -8% - very helpful for the odd time that a mob runs over and pokes you, and great for trying to get stoneskin up in PvP.
MP while healing +1 - you can never have too much hmp.