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    Asura is owned and operated by the chinese gil sellers these days

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    I dominate myself sometimes, skerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Asura is owned and operated by the chinese gil sellers these days
    Bahamut is mainly FI and oil-gobblers.
    Sad part is the oil-gobblers openly bot and there's nothing we can do.

    Times like this I wish Watuck was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Asura is owned and operated by the chinese gil sellers these days
    Bahamut is mainly FI and oil-gobblers.
    Sad part is the oil-gobblers openly bot and there's nothing we can do.

    Times like this I wish the put us back Pre-mpk patch.

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    no ; ; i have this theory Watuck will show up on a mountain bike and stop the blatant RMT and make it more secretive again then they can just buy enough gil to buy abjurations from FI and not waste 3 hours killing Fafnir ; ;

    but pre-MPK patch to kill them is just as good I suppose D:

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    I always like it when ppl have to twist my words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    People are simply confused. The old mentality is that JP are better than NA.
    Can you search my post again and tell me where I said JP's are better? Can't find it? Didn't think so. I said JP's have no life. They play still game 24/7 pretty much. Not everyone here has the luxury of living at home with mommy and daddy with no responsiblies. I would say there's far more ppl that play this game that have a job or go to college than ppl that don't. I just don't get that impression from JP's. To camp an HNM @ 2-6am in the morning you have to not have a job or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    You obviously aren't a part of any form of a decent NA shell.
    Yeah ok. I guess my LS's 12 min fafnir's isn't decent enough for some ppl. Or 12 men Nidhoggs. The mentality on Siren is if you throw enough ppl at the HNM it'll die. We prefer to use some actual skill when it comes to killing shit. And trust me, you have no idea how frusterating it can be to watch a LS with 6 blms on fafnir and no fucking skillchain so the fight takes 40min. JP's have to team up on Siren to kill Vrtra and my LS is the only NA ls to kill Vrtra so far. So yeah, I'd say my ls is 'decent' enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelsin
    Yeah ok. I guess my LS's 12 min fafnir's isn't decent enough for some ppl. Or 12 men Nidhoggs. The mentality on Siren is if you throw enough ppl at the HNM it'll die. We prefer to use some actual skill when it comes to killing shit. And trust me, you have no idea how frusterating it can be to watch a LS with 6 blms on fafnir and no fucking skillchain so the fight takes 40min. JP's have to team up on Siren to kill Vrtra and my LS is the only NA ls to kill Vrtra so far. So yeah, I'd say my ls is 'decent' enough.
    Like right now that we're watching a LS claim tiamat and hold it for 100% for over 20 minutes (same LS that had a previous 7 hour kill).

    Gogo sleep patch! ES/Sleep needs to not be rape-able anymore.

    (yes diggler, i posted this JUST FOR YOU)

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    Well, economy will be messed up the first week, but don't worry too much about it. You won't have the game for a while since they will most likely give another headstart to JP player. You can expect to pay like 100k for a Bugard skin (the Aht Urghan equivalent in this case) if you really want the new armor/craft, but if you wait for NA release, it will drop by a factor of 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelsin
    Can you search my post again and tell me where I said JP's are better? Can't find it? Didn't think so. I said JP's have no life. They play still game 24/7 pretty much. Not everyone here has the luxury of living at home with mommy and daddy with no responsiblies. I would say there's far more ppl that play this game that have a job or go to college than ppl that don't. I just don't get that impression from JP's. To camp an HNM @ 2-6am in the morning you have to not have a job or something.
    lol, and nobody in the NA community is like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by Angelsin
    Can you search my post again and tell me where I said JP's are better? Can't find it? Didn't think so. I said JP's have no life. They play still game 24/7 pretty much. Not everyone here has the luxury of living at home with mommy and daddy with no responsiblies. I would say there's far more ppl that play this game that have a job or go to college than ppl that don't. I just don't get that impression from JP's. To camp an HNM @ 2-6am in the morning you have to not have a job or something.
    lol, and nobody in the NA community is like this?
    if they were, i'd have blood body by now /emo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    People are simply confused. The old mentality is that JP are better than NA. For about a year and a half that was true. JP had a significant lead on the NA. But recently with the CoP release and the upcoming pack JP and NA are close to equal on most servers. The fact that we are allowing ourselves to think that JP are better than us the only thing holding us back in all honesty.

    Think about it. Most top NA shells on a server have a 1337 alliance that can take down just about anything with that one alliance. So can most top JP shells. When expansions come out we, the JP and NA, start off on the same foot and have equal opportunities.

    The one thing that I fail to mention which is a big deciding factor in the apparent JP 1337ness, is that JP don't take any shit. They do things fair and smart. NA claim darters at Fafnir, omg you fucking newb you suck man we're going to wipe. JP claim darters at Fafnir, Oh my... I have dishonored you all... I will delete my character tonight, Good bye good friends. JP are more disciplined in most respects but not anymore "skilled" necessarily.
    please come to siren for a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Well, economy will be messed up the first week, but don't worry too much about it. You won't have the game for a while since they will most likely give another headstart to JP player. You can expect to pay like 100k for a Bugard skin (the Aht Urghan equivalent in this case) if you really want the new armor/craft, but if you wait for NA release, it will drop by a factor of 50.
    Though, isn't it slated to come out on the NA end a full 2 days before the JP's get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimiko
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Well, economy will be messed up the first week, but don't worry too much about it. You won't have the game for a while since they will most likely give another headstart to JP player. You can expect to pay like 100k for a Bugard skin (the Aht Urghan equivalent in this case) if you really want the new armor/craft, but if you wait for NA release, it will drop by a factor of 50.
    Though, isn't it slated to come out on the NA end a full 2 days before the JP's get it?
    NA: Apr 18
    JP: Apr 20
    If i'm not mistaken.

    However, due to time zone differences and time to stock in stores or whatever, it may not matter at all. In the end, maybe only get it a few hours before JPs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalius
    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    People are simply confused. The old mentality is that JP are better than NA. For about a year and a half that was true. JP had a significant lead on the NA. But recently with the CoP release and the upcoming pack JP and NA are close to equal on most servers. The fact that we are allowing ourselves to think that JP are better than us the only thing holding us back in all honesty.

    Think about it. Most top NA shells on a server have a 1337 alliance that can take down just about anything with that one alliance. So can most top JP shells. When expansions come out we, the JP and NA, start off on the same foot and have equal opportunities.

    The one thing that I fail to mention which is a big deciding factor in the apparent JP 1337ness, is that JP don't take any shit. They do things fair and smart. NA claim darters at Fafnir, omg you fucking newb you suck man we're going to wipe. JP claim darters at Fafnir, Oh my... I have dishonored you all... I will delete my character tonight, Good bye good friends. JP are more disciplined in most respects but not anymore "skilled" necessarily.
    please come to siren for a day
    Why you think I got out of the HNM scene there? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimiko
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Well, economy will be messed up the first week, but don't worry too much about it. You won't have the game for a while since they will most likely give another headstart to JP player. You can expect to pay like 100k for a Bugard skin (the Aht Urghan equivalent in this case) if you really want the new armor/craft, but if you wait for NA release, it will drop by a factor of 50.
    Though, isn't it slated to come out on the NA end a full 2 days before the JP's get it?

    Maybe they figured most of the remaining player where NA, and it was the thing to do to have them stay. Or maybe only the XBox version will be release two day before, forcing you to buy it if you want to get the headstart.

    In any case, I'm surprised if it's true. It would be a first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    You obviously aren't a part of any form of a decent NA shell. My NA shell does just about everything before JP, partly because we're the oldest Linkshell on our server but still, you shouldn't have to neeedlessly degrade yourself due to some JP being better than you.
    I'm a little curious how your linkshell does shit first, considering everything gets released in japan first...

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    Did it really fucking matter who got COP first? NO. Everyone's stuck on AV if you've put any effort into sea.

    Will it really fucking matter who gets ToAU first? NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Did it really fucking matter who got COP first? NO. Everyone's stuck on AV if you've put any effort into sea.

    Will it really fucking matter who gets ToAU first? NO
    People want to be first to monopolize new items and sell them for rediculous prices before others realize it's a common drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    I'm a little curious how your linkshell does shit first, considering everything gets released in japan first...
    I can't talk for him, but:


    -CoP mission in sea
    -CoP wyrm/bahamut
    -Sea NM
    -New dynamis
    -Limbus boss (not really hard, and everyone did it at the same time anyway)

    Most of the recent stuff placed NA and JP on the same level. Too bad none of them are worthwhile :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk
    You obviously aren't a part of any form of a decent NA shell. My NA shell does just about everything before JP, partly because we're the oldest Linkshell on our server but still, you shouldn't have to neeedlessly degrade yourself due to some JP being better than you.
    I'm a little curious how your linkshell does shit first, considering everything gets released in japan first...
    -CoP mission in sea
    -CoP wyrm/bahamut
    -Sea NM
    -New dynamis
    -Limbus boss (not really hard, and everyone did it at the same time anyway)

    Most of the recent stuff placed NA and JP on the same level. Too bad none of them are worthwhile Very Happy

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