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  1. #21
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    There is no discussion if your LS' rules are clearly stated, if you don't have enough points that's tough shit. If you don't like the system you can leave your ls, or decide to stop crying about not being next for dalmatica. Poor geno WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  2. #22
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    You don't even say who you are. Why should people care what your opinion is, or what you say anyway? At least I have the balls to talk about something like this with my name attached to it, fag.
    Except replace Alla with KI, you drama-whore fag.

    And quite honestly, if you sent me a tell in game, I'd talk to you about it! Isn't that awesome!

    IF YOU ACTUALLY SPOKE TO ME AND I KNEW WHO YOU WERE I WOULDN'T BE AN ASSHOLE. What an amazing concept.

  3. #23
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    ok ok, in all seriousness, next time dalmatica drops and the other guy gets it just put on some linkin park

  4. #24
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    You don't even say who you are. Why should people care what your opinion is, or what you say anyway? At least I have the balls to talk about something like this with my name attached to it, fag.
    And quite honestly, if you sent me a tell in game, I'd talk to you about it! Isn't that awesome!

    IF YOU ACTUALLY SPOKE TO ME AND I KNEW WHO YOU WERE I WOULDN'T BE AN ASSHOLE. What an amazing concept.

  5. #25
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    quoting yourself is COOL!

    CRAAAWWWWWLING IN MY SKIN

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    quoting yourself is COOL!

    CRAAAWWWWWLING IN MY SKIN
    THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

  7. #27
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    You could always ninja lot it and be like "oops my bad"

  8. #28
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    Well~

    To me, honestly, i still go for points in your system. Any good rdm-brd macros things out and in, depending on what they're casting. Both of those jobs can wear verm. Casting spell - macro verm out and good gear in, spells goes off, verm is back on. Really, its that simple. An A.body is special, its E-peen, but its not the best thing in the world. The officer wins it

    (And stop being so aggressive... it looks childish... both Geno and the people just looking for a chance to say something about him...)

    that being said, i set the DERAILBOMB in place!

    ...

    .......

    .............

    ......................

    ..................................

    PENIS :D

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    You could always ninja lot it and be like "oops my bad"
    Eh, I'm not a fag. I respect the point system and that it exists; I just find it retarded that someone would take it for their epeen rather than let someone else (I wouldn't even mind if this whm/blm/brd that has like 5 points more than get it before me) that can use it.

  10. #30
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    IMO, these are the kinds of situations you'd have to be in the LS to answer fairly... there are a lot of things leaders and officers have to consider when they're deciding loot priority.

    Generally though... people have a "main" job that they always go to events as or is the job that they applied/accepted as when they joined. For linkshell efficiency, active main RDM and BRD should have priority over active main BLMs and WHMs on Dalmatica. That's how my LS operates anyway and we have really limited loot drama compared to other LS.

    I really hate point systems. Observant leaders/officers > point system. Also, you can't reward skill through a point system. I've seen a bunch of really shitty players get good loots just because they hang out a lot but don't add much to the actual effort it takes to obtain the gear.

  11. #31
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    what the fuck is a bard going to do with a dalmatica? that's about as useful as a ridill samurai

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viq
    it's like BRD or BST with osodes. "theres other pieces of gear near my level with far superior stats concerning me, but damn it it's the osode and I fucking want it!"
    Other than Dalmatica (which is situational), what is better in non-Jeuno e-peen situations than Osode for BRD? If you answer Manteel it will prove my suspision that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
    Since no one answered you...

    What's better.. Hmm.. My guess would be
    Errant Houppelande

    Enmity down
    Same CHR

    Owns the fuck out of Osode for Bard.

  13. #33
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    Any bard that bitches they want an osode for 'soloing' gets bitched at instantly by me, at least, to level another job to 75 if they don't want to be someone's bitch.

  14. #34
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    On most servers, you can get mahatma hpl for less than osode even, and that's more chr and more enmity reduction.

    Of course if bards woke up and realized that hpl > osode, expect the mhtma price to rise because they're a whole lot more rare

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdn
    what the fuck is a bard going to do with a dalmatica? that's about as useful as a ridill samurai
    wtf are you smoking?

  16. #36
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    With the ability to swap out armors in macros, it's so easy for Errant and Dalmatica is be useful.

    Cast song
    Equip Errant
    /wait (cast time)
    Equip Dalmatica

    WHM and BLM's should be shot for ever lotting on Dalmatica abjuration because Noble's Tunic and ... why would a BLM *ever* wear it? Having both BLM at 73 and WHM at 75, I put the three pieces of zenith I had in storage because of their uselessness. I wore primarily errant for enmity down and for the extra HP. I had about 1000HP and 1000MP give or take a few (HP merits as Taru).

    Rarely, if ever pulled hate during wyrms/HNMs and rarely died with my ability to actually get hit and live.

  17. #37
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    First of all Geno, what kind of LS are you in that this has to be discussed on a public forum? Sounds like you should leave. Something like this at least in my LS (me being an officer of my LS) is something we would want people to discuss within the LS, or to the actual person themselves. As an officer he should be understanding of what you can bring to the discussion and how the system in your LS works.

    Anyway...thats not answering your question, so basically in my LS he wouldn't be able to lot. We don't like to enforce in my LS the mentality of wearing shitty gear over better gear, just because you have it. I've seen too many PLDs tank wyrms in Crimson Scale Mail and Homam Corazza (wtf), BLMs nuking in Dalms, BRDs wearing Osodes over Errant in an HNM situation...that it pains me to see someone get a useful item for a job that they can't use it, when there's someone there who could use it to benefit the LS.

    Basically in my LS, a WHM and a BLM would never be able to lot a Dalm over a BRD and a RDM. Ever. Simple as that really. And as far as what body piece a BRD should be wearing at 75? This piece isn't too bad.

    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7482

    WARNING: Before everyone jumps on me, this is just how my LS does it. This is not the bible of loot distribution. I'm just letting Geno know I agree with him.

  18. #38
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    Locke... You should see this bard on Unicorn.. *Only* wears a Scorpion Harness... I don't think she has any other body armor.

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okan
    Locke... You should see this bard on Unicorn.. *Only* wears a Scorpion Harness... I don't think she has any other body armor.
    Who needs -enmity when you can evade Tiamat altogether?!

  20. #40
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    Just use elegy in replace of Provoke!!!

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