Blizzard is smarter than Square

[Lordwafik]

I realize this, but im saying, the bots werent there at the beggining when it was just PC gamers to 75. If they were, it wasnt as widespread. After the PS2 gamers joined, by a long long long time, that's when the first Mrargus showed up (anyone remember the video? anyone remember that time when mifaco... etc ).

[Lockecole]

Hmmm...drop PS2 support and get prettier armors and more mogspace.

OR

Drop PC support and get rid of botting, MrArgus, flee-tools, and other assorted hacking?

I really don't think the more serious problems lie with the PS2.

Wow...you'd seriously rid the game of flee-tooling people who don't effect you in anyway, bots which are only used on 3 mobs in the game, instead of completely revamping how the game interface works, and inturn making the game what it was intended to be...and adding a uniqueness to this game that it will never achieve as long as the PS2 holds it back?

Sorry, but I'm going with the PC.

[Xavier]

I don't follow. It's about a billion times easier to set up bots and such on a PC. If suddenly everyone who played the game was on a PS2, those things really wouldn't be an issue any more.

They've since removed the ability to do, but a long time ago, a JP PS2 user was unbeatable on claim in Aery.

There were special modified harddrives in Japan, you could import them too, that let you edit the files on the ps2 to obviously remove dat files. If you can picture a turbo controller on a ps2 with no darters in aery with no claim delay, you can understand how retarded easy it must've been for them.

I've always thought they should've made servers in America, and they should've seperated PS2/PC. Downside would've been losing like 3/4th of the community on each server and fragmenting it.

Hmmm...drop PS2 support and get prettier armors and more mogspace.

OR

Drop PC support and get rid of botting, MrArgus, flee-tools, and other assorted hacking?

I really don't think the more serious problems lie with the PS2.

Wow...you'd seriously rid the game of flee-tooling people who don't effect you in anyway, bots which are only used on 3 mobs in the game, instead of completely revamping how the game interface works, and inturn making the game what it was intended to be...and adding a uniqueness to this game that it will never achieve as long as the PS2 holds it back?

Sorry, but I'm going with the Xbox360.

FIXED LOL!

If someone wanted to get rid of the bots, and get rid of the underpowered PS2, forcing a switch to the 360 would be the best bet. Its basically a PC anyway.

[Lordwafik]

I've always thought they should've made servers in America, and they should've seperated PS2/PC.

Where do I sign for this "Paradise" you are speaking of ?

[Lockecole]

I've always thought they should've made servers in America, and they should've seperated PS2/PC.

Where do I sign for this "Paradise" you are speaking of ?

On the same vein Xavier, I played UO for like 2-3 years, right at the point where they started implementing the 3D client, and about a year into it. Now I don't know much about game programming or the like, but wouldn't it be possible for SE to do what UO did, have two seperate clients, one which has an updated version of the game (in UO's case, sprites vs. 3D polygons.), but the whole time they can interact with eachother all the same.

I mean we have talented artists who have changed their .dats to the point where the game looks alot better then it used to, even if it is just changing textures. (Avatar model changes are amazing.) I don't see why SE can't do the same for the PS2 and XBOX360/PC versions. Granted it would be a huge overhaul to make the game look better...but why not? Better then making a whole new game, and it would spring so much life into this game, I'd run around just to see what each new zone looked like.
Is this possible? I assume it is, but it wouldn't be worth it for SE time and money wise, when they could probably just make a whole new game altogether.

[Xavier]

I've always thought they should've made servers in America, and they should've seperated PS2/PC.

Where do I sign for this "Paradise" you are speaking of ?

On the same vein Xavier, I played UO for like 2-3 years, right at the point where they started implementing the 3D client, and about a year into it. Now I don't know much about game programming or the like, but wouldn't it be possible for SE to do what UO did, have two seperate clients, one which has an updated version of the game (in UO's case, sprites vs. 3D polygons.), but the whole time they can interact with eachother all the same.

I mean we have talented artists who have changed their .dats to the point where the game looks alot better then it used to, even if it is just changing textures. (Avatar model changes are amazing.) I don't see why SE can't do the same for the PS2 and XBOX360/PC versions. Granted it would be a huge overhaul to make the game look better...but why not? Better then making a whole new game, and it would spring so much life into this game, I'd run around just to see what each new zone looked like.
Is this possible? I assume it is, but it wouldn't be worth it for SE time and money wise, when they could probably just make a whole new game altogether.

I've been playing UO since UO:R, still play it from time to time, a lot lately when I'm bored. Its still fun to me because of how the rune system worked, you can immediately get a sense of accomplishment within 10 seconds of logging on.

UO: Third Dawn was utter shit though, it was fake 3-D. 3-D polygons on a 2-D background, but thats besides the point. Even if they implemented a new graphic engine for the PC and 360 only, the fact still remains that they can't implent SYSTEMS that exceed the capacity of the PS2. So yeah, they could create an entirely new graphic engine, but they can't exceed the memory of the PS2 if they want to maintain compatability.

[Demetrios]

Actually those bots didnt surface for ages untill both PS2 and PC were well established.

NA wise of course.

I remember camping NM and stuff before NA PS2 release was in, the only thing you'd really have to worry about is the JP's. Remember when it used to be all the NA vs the JP?

I've been cheating since NA release>_<;

[Kaylia]

Considering they arent even willing to add ingame option to increase your resolution above 1024, and activate mip mapping, I seriously doubt we will ever see a graphic upgrade It's sad when you have to go in the registry to make your game look better

[Jeveh]

Question for everyone... My Xbox 360 is currently a paperweight. Ive read various places that ZM and COP are being released with the 360 version of FFXI. Ive also read it includes ToA, but not on Xbox's official site or whatever. Wouldnt it be really really retarded almost uncomprehendable that they would release FFXI for the Xbox on the same day the expansion comes out for the other 2 systems?. I know this is SE im talking about. So does anyone know does the 360 version contain all 3? If it doesnt SE and microsoft should be wiped off the planet.

[Xavier]

Question for everyone... My Xbox 360 is currently a paperweight. Ive read various places that ZM and COP are being released with the 360 version of FFXI. Ive also read it includes ToA, but not on Xbox's official site or whatever. Wouldnt it be really really retarded almost uncomprehendable that they would release FFXI for the Xbox on the same day the expansion comes out for the other 2 systems?. I know this is SE im talking about. So does anyone know does the 360 version contain all 3? If it doesnt SE and microsoft should be wiped off the planet.

It contains all 3, and its being released at the same time of the expansion for PC/PS2.

My 360 is a paperweight too right now, but that'll change in a few months.

[Lockecole]

Question for everyone... My Xbox 360 is currently a paperweight. Ive read various places that ZM and COP are being released with the 360 version of FFXI. Ive also read it includes ToA, but not on Xbox's official site or whatever. Wouldnt it be really really retarded almost uncomprehendable that they would release FFXI for the Xbox on the same day the expansion comes out for the other 2 systems?. I know this is SE im talking about. So does anyone know does the 360 version contain all 3? If it doesnt SE and microsoft should be wiped off the planet.

It contains all 3, and its being released at the same time of the expansion for PC/PS2.

My 360 is a paperweight too right now, but that'll change in 12 days.

Fixed.

[Janice]

My 360 is a paperweight too right now, but that'll change in a few months.

You shouldn't be resting the xbox360 on top of paper. That is a fire hazard.

[Zumi]

Square would not drop PS2 support as long as the game is out and 90% of JP play on PS2 also.

[Fira]

Well anyway, the reason WoW is so popular (compared to FFXI) isn't because of the end-game. Its because of the early-game. FFXI has a rough learning curve and no soloing post 10(most of the time). Most people who quit FFXI early on do so while the is a rush of noobs coming in(as in Dunes becomes hell).

I know when I log into wow everyday its because of the early-game play. Oh wait.

[kareface]

Question for everyone... My Xbox 360 is currently a paperweight. Ive read various places that ZM and COP are being released with the 360 version of FFXI. Ive also read it includes ToA, but not on Xbox's official site or whatever. Wouldnt it be really really retarded almost uncomprehendable that they would release FFXI for the Xbox on the same day the expansion comes out for the other 2 systems?. I know this is SE im talking about. So does anyone know does the 360 version contain all 3? If it doesnt SE and microsoft should be wiped off the planet.

It contains all 3, and its being released at the same time of the expansion for PC/PS2.

My 360 is a paperweight too right now, but that'll change in 12 days.

Fixed.

Unless your talking about another game last I checked:

The Treasures of Aht Urhgan website has been updated with all-new information, and the release date is April 18, 2006!

I believe that coincides with the 360 launch. Thats still over a month away.

[Kurp]

Unless your talking about another game last I checked:

Oblivion probably. 8)

[Fira]

Unless your talking about another game last I checked:

Oblivion probably. 8)

i need the old version of vent again ._. send me aim!

[Lockecole]

Unless your talking about another game last I checked:

Oblivion probably. 8)

[Kurp]

Unless your talking about another game last I checked:

Oblivion probably. 8)

i need the old version of vent again ._. send me aim!

Meh on AIM. Sent PM here.

[DeliriumII]

isnt blizzard the one who cant even fix their servers from crashing regularly and having huge queues during peak hours?