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    lol 20+ countries. I'm talking about countries that actually did things to help.

    Taking Sadam out is better for the US and the World... YOU would think that this consept wouldnt be that difficult.
    I think taking BUSH out would be better for the US and the world. Everyday he is in office, more countries hate us more and more. He's killing our troops and tons of Iraqis everyday. He's pissing off muslims and we know what happens when we piss them off too much. He's not doing anything fucking good. Wow he liberated Iraq, they really seem like they're grateful over there as they continue to kill our troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klever
    From the ACLU:
    "Prosecuting a death penalty case is extremely expensive for a state and drains money that could be used for education and social programs. It costs more than sentencing a prisoner to life without parole.

    The most comprehensive death penalty study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million more per execution than a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of life imprisonment (Duke University, May 1993). In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases."
    There it is. It is more expensive.
    If you are trying to prove that the death penalty is more expensive then you need to reread. This is saying that a death penalty trial is more expensive. This quote is not comparing the amount of money to kill the Murder vs Keeping them alive untill they die of natural causes. This is discussing Case fees. Which regardless of which side of the fence you are on concerning the death penalty, i hope we can agree the appeals process is extremely too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyway
    lol 20+ countries. I'm talking about countries that actually did things to help.

    Taking Sadam out is better for the US and the World... YOU would think that this consept wouldnt be that difficult.
    I think taking BUSH out would be better for the US and the world. Everyday he is in office, more countries hate us more and more. He's killing our troops and tons of Iraqis everyday. He's pissing off muslims and we know what happens when we piss them off too much. He's not doing anything fucking good. Wow he liberated Iraq, they really seem like they're grateful over there as they continue to kill our troops.
    Again you are misinformed a MAJORITY of the people in Iraq support the removal of Sadam and the rebuilding process. Those loyal to Sadam ( a SMALL minority) continue to use terror tactics to stop the democratic process

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    Again, you seem to be illiterate. Who cares if how many people oppose or support it over there. The fact remains a good amount of people do not want us there. It's funny, the majority of America doesn't agree with Bush as well. Majority doesn't seem to win these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyway
    Again, you seem to be illiterate. Who cares if how many people oppose or support it over there. The fact remains a good amount of people do not want us there. It's funny, the majority of America doesn't agree with Bush as well. Majority doesn't seem to win these days.
    A good amount of people liked hitlers antics in Europe.... your point? A good deal of people in America dont support the continued presence in Iraq. There is a big difference in not supporting the liberation of Iraq and supporting the way in which they are liberated. Do you see the Distinction?

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    No we really didn't support the original presence. We supported it because we thought we were going to be blown up by imaginary WMD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyway
    No we really didn't support the original presence. We supported it because we thought we were going to be blown up by imaginary WMD's.
    Hind site is 20/20. We supported in though

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    please tell me the soldier survived .....;;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizango
    Ya they just showed his dumb ass on GMA pleading not guilty, wtf. The soldier shot also spoke; he stated that besides the gunshot wounds to his Chest, Shoulder and Thigh and the intense pain and rehab he is in good spirits.

    Yet another blackeye for California state Highway patrol, Police and Sheriff departments.
    Please tell me you know how to read...;;

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    Lmfao, explains why we got like 5 countries to help us and we had to go against the UN's wishes
    We had to go against the UN and didn't have a large coalition because the world is comprised of cowards who can't recognize something bad and have the balls to take care of it.

    I hate george bush and what he's doing to our country, but i hate saddam and what he did to his country and his people even more. I don't agree with why we went to iraq, i don't agree with a lot of things that are happening right now. but i do support the men and women who are in our armed services fighting, and i do think the world is better off without saddam and his sons in power. As i said, nations aren't built over night, and at some point in the future things will improve, and people will say that we did the right thing.


    And we know that they did have WMD because we sold them the weapons when we were at war with Iran, and allied with iraq. People who argue this fact are clueless about the last 15 years of our nations foreign history. And the fact that we tell saddam when and where we are sending our groups to check for them, makes it extremely easy for him to move them around his country, and out of his country if necessary.

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    We did not sell them fucking nukes you idiot. We sold them weapons, not nukes.

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    'sigh' Anyway....I'm beginning to think that you are borderline retarded..

    SHOW ME IN MY POST WHERE I SPECIFIED "NUKES"

    I just said WMDs you fucking idiot. Seriously, how the hell can you be a cop when you dont' know how to fucking read. We didn't have to sell them nukes, we sold them a shitload of rockets. The beautiful thing about rockets, is you can remove the tip, empty what is inside, and refill them with whatever sort of nuclear or biological content you please, which is what they fucking did. You ever hear of chemical ali? Yeah, those weapons they tested on their own people, were re-modified missles from the ones we sold them.

    God damn anyway, you make my fucking head hurt with your lack of ability to understand what i fucking type.

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    Just for clarification, rockets without biological, chemical or nuclear agents inside them are not considered WMDs, no matter how far their range.

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    Thank you Merper. SKYYLA PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH AND READ YOUR OWN SHIT. ROCKETS ARE NOT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Stay in school.

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    July, 1984. CIA begins giving Iraq intelligence necessary to calibrate its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops.

    May, 1986. The US Department of Commerce licenses 70 biological exports to Iraq between May of 1985 and 1989, including at least 21 batches of lethal strains of anthrax.

    May, 1986. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to Iraq.

    April, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of chemicals used in manufacture of mustard gas.

    September, 1988. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade anthrax and botulinum to Iraq.

    December, 1988. Dow chemical sells $1.5 million in pesticides to Iraq despite knowledge that these would be used in chemical weapons.

    July, 1991 The Financial Times of London reveals that a Florida chemical company had produced and shipped cyanide to Iraq during the 80's using a special CIA courier. Cyanide was used extensively against the Iranians.
    Yea, you guys sold em a bunch of empty rockets.

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    Thank you rex for posting that.

    Thank you Merper. SKYYLA PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH AND READ YOUR OWN SHIT. ROCKETS ARE NOT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Stay in school.
    But...empty rockets we sell them along with a shitload of biological agents when put together are...

    It is clear, to any informed person, that you don't know what the hell you're talking about Anyway. And to be honost i don't know why i'm even bothering to banter back and forth with you. Go google it yourself and learn what the hell happened before you continue posting and making yourself out to be even more idiotic than you already have. Please spare yourself and the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyylya
    Thank you rex for posting that.

    Thank you Merper. SKYYLA PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH AND READ YOUR OWN SHIT. ROCKETS ARE NOT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Stay in school.
    But...empty rockets we sell them along with a shitload of biological agents when put together are...

    It is clear, to any informed person, that you don't know what the hell you're talking about Anyway. And to be honost i don't know why i'm even bothering to banter back and forth with you. Go google it yourself and learn what the hell happened before you continue posting and making yourself out to be even more idiotic than you already have. Please spare yourself and the rest of us.
    lol Keep telling yourself that when nobody agrees with you in this thread.

    Mustard gas is not a WMD, fyi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anyway
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyylya
    Thank you rex for posting that.

    Thank you Merper. SKYYLA PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH AND READ YOUR OWN SHIT. ROCKETS ARE NOT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Stay in school.
    But...empty rockets we sell them along with a shitload of biological agents when put together are...

    It is clear, to any informed person, that you don't know what the hell you're talking about Anyway. And to be honost i don't know why i'm even bothering to banter back and forth with you. Go google it yourself and learn what the hell happened before you continue posting and making yourself out to be even more idiotic than you already have. Please spare yourself and the rest of us.
    lol Keep telling yourself that when nobody agrees with you in this thread.

    Mustard gas is not a WMD, fyi.
    Next you're gonna say that anthrax isn't either, right? gg reading one line and skipping the entire point.

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    lol okay so you're saying we invaded Iraq because they had some anthrax. If so, you've proved my point.

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    No, the US invaded Iraq on imaginary terms but the government focused on chemical weapons (did you remember to buy duct tape?) that Saddam had, as their reason to go in there, which they assumed he still had because they sold the stuff to him in the first place.

    I don't recall any part of WMD to be the word "nuclear" but maybe there's a silent N in there somewhere, I'm no scientist after all. Just don't jump down someone's throat over something they never actually wrote, because anthrax in a warhead is just as much a WMD as a nuke is so technically that shit was sold to Iraq, one way or another. Only reason I posted was to clarify he did get weapons *capable* of mass destruction sold to him, nothing more.

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