PANDEMONIUM DRAMA

**Suiram** · 2006-03-15 11:26

Originally Posted by Genosync

Why is this thread not dead yet?

Please let this die. thx.

**Khamsin** · 2006-03-15 11:52

I always did wonder what it would look like if a MNK hundred fisted a dead dhalmel.

**Rysen** · 2006-03-15 14:09

Who is Psychosis? A scared anonymous pussy apparently.

Lets go over this cause i r teh bored.

On a first note, Vigion already admitted he doesn't care about their reputation

Vigion and the rest of us do not care about what Kupo thinks of us. We have been conveniently labeled since day 1. You are proof of this. We do not seek anyone else's approval to substantiate our existence. Fuck you and what you think of us. I say that in the kindest way possible. many in Kupo, no doubt, feel the exact same way.

Bashing everyone elses reputation and trying to give Kupo a bad name? If he doesn't care about his or his own linkshells reputation, and obviously he is coming on here and being an ass while everyone else is trying to be as patient and kind as possible(Kupo, Tymora to name the few), what makes you not realize that there's more to his linkshell than what he's claiming?

Kupo does not need our help with their reputation. Lbelle came here for sympathy and got her ass handed to her in a picnic basket. Where has Vigion bashed anyone? I've spoken to many from Kupo who are even on our side about the whole actual issue. Do you even know what the issue was? It is apparent you do not. Vig took a shot at Palin because he was there and did nothing. He also made decisions on our server that changed the way some players viewed him. He ran an LS. He left it for another one. You make your own conclusions.

If I took the time to discuss our side of every Kupo Caffeine situation I'd never sleep. When Kupo "wins" (gets claim, takes kill) there are those who enjoy rubbing it in everyone's face, not just us. When we win, I have to remind people not to run their mouths because it is tempting to boast to those who have gloated over you.

Lbelle and Bruru were not patient in any way. Carnelia, Harpua, Ammon, even Derzoll to an extent were patient and angry at what happened. They are not on your side bud. Even Bruru posted an apology of sorts on his blog of d00m where he usually only privately cuts us down in his free time.

Caffeine has had numerous members ADMIT to botting. It's shown quite well recently in Aery, and that's not all;

I'd like names and screenshots please. I am aware of one botter who was warned on a second offence he'd be perm banned. I have screenshots of kupo discussing cheating. I've read photos of conversations of the different ways to get an edge. Kupo largely has an attitude problem. They really only show this in large numbers. Our disrespect to them comes when they disrespect us.

They MPKed before the patch change - everyone who's seen them in Aery knows it.

I've had 2 mpkers. 1 is no longer playing. Kupo stole her mob and she mpk them. The other is no longer in the ls either. Show me these aery mpk shots please.

So, who would honestly give a shit about Caffeine's first attempts at Tiamat? They don't have room to whine or argue, they are hypocrites at nature and only care about themselves.

Assumptions. You have a lot of them. No one should have given a shit. Again a Kupo member started this thread. Kupo took the time to sit there the whole time we fought. Not my place to tell them what to do with their time.

What if the LSes they MPKed before the patch were on their first try at an HNM? Who's to say if roles were reversed, Caffeine would have Dia'd any adds that Kupo might've C4Hed on, being that they're KNOWN for MPKing?

Pretty shakey logic here. We steer clear of what Kupo is doing honestly. Most of us do not really care. As I said I know of an mpk that was a solo job as a result of a stolen mob. This was a long ass time ago too. Nice assumptions again though.

You should really sit and think, before acting like you're the jury in here. Nothing can justify what Caffeine's done to give them such a shitty reputation.

Our reputation is objective. I'd wager more of the server likes us as individuals and as a group than people like Kupo members or Kupo ls. Kupo is a bully. Plain as that. No one likes bullies. Kupo finds one mistake or error in any LS's past and brands that ls and just repeats the one event until it is so ingrained in the public eye that it becomes "truth." Hence my signature. It pokes fun at this exact thing.

If you want to start shit about monopoly - Caffeine basically owns Aspido, but that's not hard to do anyway, is it?(but they probably bot him, too) GOOD JOB CAFFEINE, YOU ARE SO UBER. Rolling Eyes

More assumptions. My favorite *fact* is most of the people who actually claim in Caffeine are ps2 users who do not dual box. I am pc myself and I have so much lag in these HNM zones I can't see shit in front of my face.

Also, why assume Kupo wants more gaiters? Quite frankly, they have enough. I'm sure they can function without another pair to add to their collection, it's really ignorant to go on assuming they want their monopoly - I haven't even seen them sell any, so far.
Kupo recently got a lot of new members in, so why not give them their chance at wyrms? They need their first experiences too, not just Caffeine.

No body said Kupo ever had to stand aside while we try something new. You are the first to suggest that. When they get claim we leave them alone. When we get claim a few of them did not leave us alone. Nothing else to it.

If Caffeine can go around MPKing innocent LSes and then act big-shit when they bot-claim a Fafnir/Nidhogg, I don't find it to be a crime to Dia any of their links. If they think it's okay to C4H, then so whatever, but if the people they probably MPKed that wiped to their first Fafnir had C4Hed, they probably wouldn't have killed him so easily as they did, with Faf at 10%(?) from the wiped LS.

More assumptions... do you have any facts? Any photos? Anything at all? I hardly go around accusing Kupo of shit on hear say. Everyone calls Innes Innesbot5000 but I just think it is funny. No idea if he bots or not.

The reason for the c4h is because of Lbelle and Bruru. If those two had kept their mouths shut and left us alone we never would have c4h. It was a reaction to this sole incident. We've wiped in the past and Kupo took claim.

The further this goes the more narrow minded you seem.

Bottom line is - Caffeine has no room to bitch or whine when karma punches them in the face.

Hardly heard a member bitch or moan. We put up with them for the whole fight and didn't say a word. We didn't run off and post shit someplace outside an angry, irratated, post ON MY OWN WEBSITE.

Kharma doesn't work based on allegations by the way.

I am not from Kupo, or Caffeine, but from the Pandemonium server, so don't assume I'm taking anyones side due to LS rivalry. I have no LS, but I do have opinions. If you don't like them because they're pretty fucking honest, get over it.)

I don't like them because they are ignorant. I challenge you to prove one thing you said about Kupo or Caffeine. It sounds like you know jack shit about either.

Also about the "Caffeine's Aery" shit. That player is always making people laugh. That dynamis shell in which it was said is a combination of many many ls and as a whole we all get along just fine. Kupo, Caffeine, Impulse, Destinyseekers, and whatever other ls are in the mix. Arguments are not ls vs ls they are person vs person in that shell. You have again shown that you have no idea what you are talking about.

As a rule I don't run to forums to solve my problems. I didn't start this and I don't really believe Kupo started it either. One player acted on her own. You are making this ls vs ls more than I am.

So what did we learn?

This guy assumed every conclusion he came to. He has no photos or facts. He does not know anyone personally in Kupo or Caffeine. He is angry at the world. (assumption) Perhaps he was denied access to both shells. (assumption)

Well it is lunch time so Ima go eat. If you would care to post your name and any proof you have for either side I'd appreciate it. I think the one thing my friends in Kupo and Caffeine can agree on is that your ignorance knows no bounds.

i gave up proofing this half way through. hope any errors are tolerable

**Raineer** · 2006-03-15 14:11

lego samurai for the fucking win

i don't need to read your post, your sig proves you are right

**Rysen** · 2006-03-15 14:18

As far as I am concerned, Kupo and Caffeine are done discussing this. It is in the past and unlike some, I do not plan to bring it up every chance I can to bust people's balls. I hope people in Kupo will choose to do the same.

**Gamutstreet** · 2006-03-15 14:29

Originally Posted by Rysen

Who is Psychosis? A scared anonymous pussy apparently.

Lets go over this cause i r teh bored.

On a first note, Vigion already admitted he doesn't care about their reputation

Vigion and the rest of us do not care about what Kupo thinks of us. We have been conveniently labeled since day 1. You are proof of this. We do not seek anyone else's approval to substantiate our existence. Fuck you and what you think of us. I say that in the kindest way possible. many in Kupo, no doubt, feel the exact same way.

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Bashing everyone elses reputation and trying to give Kupo a bad name? If he doesn't care about his or his own linkshells reputation, and obviously he is coming on here and being an ass while everyone else is trying to be as patient and kind as possible(Kupo, Tymora to name the few), what makes you not realize that there's more to his linkshell than what he's claiming?