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  1. #181
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    yea, but SE will have to do an emergency maitnence when they find out that it will happen... lol

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    By rule of thumb, they enfeebal. There is no "nuke" skill, so I was clearly not talking about spells separated by skill. You are an idiot and/or bad at the internet if you can't realize I was talking about offensive spells that don't do damage.

    I havn't seen a better idea on the matter yet. It works well with how you should kill most HNMs anyway and pushes more important to melees. It would be the perfect fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geno
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    after every nuke(not enfeebal)
    Read it again, genius.
    Neither Flash nor Stun are enfeebling magic. Use your brain.
    thus making them nukes?

    yawn to all this bullshit

    war1 uses rampage for 1400 points of damage

    war2 uses rampage for 1600 points of damage

    war3 uses rampage for 900 points fo damage

    nin1 uses blade:jin for 800 points of damage

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    OMG BLMS ARE SO OVERPOWEREED!!!!!!! POOR MELEEE

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    Oh, fine edit...


    MAGICAL DAMAGE.

    Its been six months since I posted it, sorry I forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by geno
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    after every nuke(not enfeebal)
    Read it again, genius.
    Neither Flash nor Stun are enfeebling magic. Use your brain.
    thus making them nukes?
    Sarcasm detector not even twitching.

    Sigh...

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Monsters get magical immunity for 2-3 seconds after every nuke(not enfeebal).
    Quote Originally Posted by A counterexaple exposing the above idea as stupid
    Black Mage casts Thunder IV on the Aura Statue.
    Aura Statue takes 1400 damage.
    The Aura Statue hits Black Mage for 300 damage.
    Paladin casts Flash on the Aura Statue.
    No effect.
    Dark Knight casts Stun on the Aura Statue.
    No effect.
    Pretty reasonable to think that a party would be spending the immediate 2-3 seconds casting something other than enfeebling magic (Flash = divine, stun = dark for the allakhazam groupies here today) to get hate off a BLM after a fat nuke. BRP's idea is a PARTY-affecting castration of job function, not just a slap to manaburning parties.

    "The blm should know better than to take hate!"

    Yeah, they should just stand there and only ever cast magic during a magic burst. Sure, kk.
    I was just pointing out your poor wording, not disagreeing with you.. at least, in a sense. Taking the suggestion at face value would indeed result in the counter-example you provided, but I think it is fairly obvious what he intended to say (brief elemental magic immunity after an elemental spell).

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    Geno I absolutely love your sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy
    Geno I absolutely love your sig
    I've heard he likes his balls stroked more than outright sucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Oh, fine edit...


    MAGICAL DAMAGE.

    Its been six months since I posted it, sorry I forget.
    You're still not getting it. Now ninjas can't stack hate with an elemental wheel if their provoke isn't up. Now blm's can't drain some HP back to keep themselves alive during those crucial seconds when you have hate and your tank doesn't. Now a mob that is nuked to 2% can't be killed by anything other than physical means, while you take mortal damage.

    Have you ever even fought an NM that uses Invincible before? You know how those are supposed to be killed when that happens?

    Should have spent those six months actually thinking of the ramifications of your idea rather than flatly believing it was a 'cure' to manaburns that doesn't affect the rest of the game in a really, really bad way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Oh, fine edit...


    MAGICAL DAMAGE.

    Its been six months since I posted it, sorry I forget.
    You're still not getting it. Now ninjas can't stack hate with an elemental wheel if their provoke isn't up. Now blm's can't drain some HP back to keep themselves alive during those crucial seconds when you have hate and your tank doesn't. Now a mob that is nuked to 2% can't be killed by anything other than magical means, while you take mortal damage.

    Have you ever even fought an NM that uses Invincible before? You know how those are supposed to be killed when that happens?

    Should have spent those six months actually thinking of the ramifications of your idea rather than flatly believing it was a 'cure' to manaburns that doesn't affect the rest of the game in a really, really bad way.
    You're fucking retarded if you think he meant anything else but elemental magic.

    A first grader could see the point was to prevent,

    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.
    BLM casts Thunder IV for 1500 dmg.

    all in a row within 5 seconds.

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    The entire discussion is retarded seeing as how there was no confirmation whatsoever about it. It was a thought, no need to criticize it

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    NIN has elemental magic now? wow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Oh, fine edit...


    MAGICAL DAMAGE.

    Its been six months since I posted it, sorry I forget.
    You're still not getting it. Now ninjas can't stack hate with an elemental wheel if their provoke isn't up. Now blm's can't drain some HP back to keep themselves alive during those crucial seconds when you have hate and your tank doesn't. Now a mob that is nuked to 2% can't be killed by anything other than magical means, while you take mortal damage.

    Have you ever even fought an NM that uses Invincible before? You know how those are supposed to be killed when that happens?

    Should have spent those six months actually thinking of the ramifications of your idea rather than flatly believing it was a 'cure' to manaburns that doesn't affect the rest of the game in a really, really bad way.
    You're fucking retarded if you think he meant anything else but elemental magic.
    And you're injecting faith into the idea that he originally meant elemental magic damage when his latest revision to the idea is 'magical damage' which includes multiple schools of magic.

    Again, I'd rather be skeptical than gullible.

    'Ouryu uses Invincible!'

    'Bahamut begins summoning something else horrible'

    'The Jailer of Love begins something even more horrible, in greater numbers'

    Whatcha gonna do now, tough guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    By rule of thumb, they enfeebal. There is no "nuke" skill, so I was clearly not talking about spells separated by skill. You are an idiot and/or bad at the internet if you can't realize I was talking about offensive spells that don't do damage.
    How many times are you going to fuck up the spelling of 'enfeeble?'

    Who's an idiot again? By the way, your idea sucks. And you're also an obvious SE fanboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Oh, fine edit...


    MAGICAL DAMAGE.

    Its been six months since I posted it, sorry I forget.
    You're still not getting it. Now ninjas can't stack hate with an elemental wheel if their provoke isn't up. Now blm's can't drain some HP back to keep themselves alive during those crucial seconds when you have hate and your tank doesn't. Now a mob that is nuked to 2% can't be killed by anything other than magical means, while you take mortal damage.

    Have you ever even fought an NM that uses Invincible before? You know how those are supposed to be killed when that happens?

    Should have spent those six months actually thinking of the ramifications of your idea rather than flatly believing it was a 'cure' to manaburns that doesn't affect the rest of the game in a really, really bad way.
    You're fucking retarded if you think he meant anything else but elemental magic.
    And you're injecting faith into the idea that he originally meant elemental magic damage when his latest revision to the idea is 'magical damage' which includes multiple schools of magic.

    Again, I'd rather be skeptical than gullible.
    I'd rather use logic than play devils advocate.

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    Zigrah, how come you haven't asked why 3 year old mobs are still dropping the best shit in the game? ; ;

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    What about Wolfman, Sea, and AV?!

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    First off, this is off topic, then again, no new news will be released tonight it seems. However, I'm eager to show this would be the best fix to BLM. Just maybe SE is watching.

    In a traditional party with a BLM, and lets assume a NIN, 2-3 seconds is not a long time. A NIN shouldn't need more than 2-3 wheels the whole time and the BLM shouldn't be nuking so many times. More damage will be put on melees and less on BLMs, and manaburns will become impossible.

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    As soon as someone shows me how to melee burn Divine Might, I'll concede that WARs are equally as overpowered as BLMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction

    And you're injecting faith into the idea that he originally meant elemental magic damage when his latest revision to the idea is 'magical damage' which includes multiple schools of magic.

    Again, I'd rather be skeptical than gullible.

    'Ouryu uses Invincible!'

    'Bahamut begins summoning something else horrible'

    'The Jailer of Love begins something even more horrible, in greater numbers'

    Whatcha gonna do now, tough guy?
    Did you read the suggestion or no?

    Some monsters don't get this, mainly ones you have to zerg(DL, his pet dragons, ect).
    Also, in the case of a simple suggestion, what is the harm in being gullible? That is a pretty good catch phrase regarding rumors, but what he says is clearly something he made up as a suggestion.

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    So how does this BLM "adjustment" gonna affect Dynamis... I think I hear Wafik crying.

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