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[SephYuyX]

So how does this BLM "adjustment" gonna affect Dynamis... I think I hear Wafik crying.

He has a good handful of melee though, id still lol though.

[Demetrios]

As soon as someone shows me how to melee burn Divine Might, I'll concede that WARs are equally as overpowered as BLMs.

Hmm. Not 18 wars, but maybe 12 wars, 3 brd, 3 whm could win.

You'd all need 2hrs, sleep TP beforehand to 100, and bring an icarus wings.

You can employ this same strategy on Dlord and watch as your melee outparse BLMs by at least 1-2k per

[divisortheory]

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

[Kaylia]

As soon as someone shows me how to melee burn Divine Might, I'll concede that WARs are equally as overpowered as BLMs.

Someone did it with 18 mnk.

18 War/nin could probably do it with RR neck. Maybe have 3 sub whm for a DS curaga

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

You know, as a melee (with blm at 75 anyway) I don't feel too ashamed to not be the best on about 8-9 HNM. We can with right gear outdamage blm on about anything else.

Blm is an useful job, but overpowered? I don't think so.

[Demetrios]

Then go try to manaburn Jailer of Temperence...

There are certain fights where one is more powerful than the other. In a lot of the places ppl are bitching about BLMs being overpowered melees can do just as well if given the chance. A lot of this is ignorance of how powerful a WAR/NIN DRK w/ Kraken, etc can melee a HNM and do good damage.

[Krandor]

So how does this BLM "adjustment" gonna affect Dynamis... I think I hear Wafik crying.

He has a good handful of melee though, id still lol though.

Actually Manaburn has something like 3 or 4 THFs, the rest is mages.

As soon as someone shows me how to melee burn Divine Might, I'll concede that WARs are equally as overpowered as BLMs.

People have done Divine Might with 15 RNGs and 3 BRDs (this was pre-RNG nerf though).[/quote][/url]

[SephYuyX]

As soon as someone shows me how to melee burn Divine Might, I'll concede that WARs are equally as overpowered as BLMs.

Someone did it with 18 mnk.

I remember seeing that video.. need to see if I can dig it up.

[Correction]

And you're injecting faith into the idea that he originally meant elemental magic damage when his latest revision to the idea is 'magical damage' which includes multiple schools of magic.

Again, I'd rather be skeptical than gullible.

'Ouryu uses Invincible!'

'Bahamut begins summoning something else horrible'

'The Jailer of Love begins something even more horrible, in greater numbers'

Whatcha gonna do now, tough guy?

Did you read the suggestion or no?

Some monsters don't get this, mainly ones you have to zerg(DL, his pet dragons, ect).

Also, in the case of a simple suggestion, what is the harm in being gullible? That is a pretty good catch phrase regarding rumors, but what he says is clearly something he made up.

To sum up:

Bad idea gets posted, with the poster saying he hopes the developers listened to it.

I counter by showing what's wrong with the idea, my way of saying I sure hope the developers didn't listen to it

Xavier thumps me for taking his words literally.

I thump Xavier for assuming his interpretation of the man's words are the reality << this is gullibility.

There's nothing gullible about considering the original idea. It's just a very bad idea, is all. Even with the 'certain NM' exemption you're not fixing anything except whether or not BLMs can manaburn, a practice that is hurting nobody. If that BLM party wasn't there getting 11-12k/hr exp another party with 3 wars and a brd would be. I really don't understand what's wrong with killing mobs with consecutive nukes if they're for exp or merits.

If all you want is for blms to stop manaburning BCNMs then introduce new superlewt BCNMs with Ballista Royale implementations on job restrictions. 18 blms on King BCemoth or Divine Might only softens the e-penises of melee, it doesn't affect the game's overall balance.

[thestalkmore]

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

eh

P.S. All WAR DM could be done very feasibly ;/

[BRP]

Sorry, Wafik, but I would lol too ;x.

If all you want is for blms to stop manaburning BCNMs then introduce new superlewt BCNMs with Ballista Royale implementations on job restrictions.

My Idea > Yours. Exp would barely be effected and exp isn't important. Manaburning everything in the game, HNM, Dynamis, or otherwise... the fact HNM LSes are built around BLMs, is broken.

The only bad part about my idea is that Summoners are still over powered, but its aimed at Black Mages only.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

didnt someone say a couple pages back that they werent doing anything negative to hurt blm but rather make it more appealing to be only blm in the party? this all seems kinda pointless lol

[divisortheory]

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

eh

P.S. All WAR DM could be done very feasibly ;/

Yea, after I realized that, I had to add another condition to the requirements that need to be met before I'll concede

[Xavier]

Why would you say I thought his idea was reality?

He said that it was a suggestion in the first post.

You just read into what he said more than I cared to. You picked apart his exact wording, I just went with the most practical use of the concept.

[thestalkmore]

The only bad part about my idea is that Summoners are still over powered, but its aimed at Black Mages only.

Nerf SMN

[Garion]

with all the talk about ppl wanting blm's nerfed.... why did they give SO MUCH to make them powerful? Weskit? all igqira gear gives power things, like MAB and A LOT OF ENFEEBLING making the manaburning and soloing BETTER.

But what IS a blm.... its big dmg.... they don't have any other purpose. why would SE nerf what the job IS. i mean...... what else is a blm there for but to be one of the main Dmg.

[Demetrios]

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

eh

P.S. All WAR DM could be done very feasibly ;/

Yea, after I realized that, I had to add another condition to the requirements that need to be met before I'll concede

meh... fine, melee are weak and underpowered since they need BRD songs and mage haste to do sick damage

[SephYuyX]

with all the talk about ppl wanting blm's nerfed.... why did they give SO MUCH to make them powerful? Weskit? all igqira gear gives power things, like MAB and A LOT OF ENFEEBLING making the manaburning and soloing BETTER.

But what IS a blm.... its big dmg.... they don't have any other purpose. why would SE nerf what the job IS. i mean...... what else is a blm there for but to be one of the main Dmg.

lolrng

[Correction]

Why would you say I thought his idea was reality?

He said that it was a suggestion in the first post.

You just read into what he said more than I cared to. You picked apart his exact wording, I just went with the most practical use of the concept.

I'm having to rephrase what I say a lot in this thread. It could be me, you never know.

Didn't say you thought his idea was reality. I said your interpretation of his intended meaning was a leap of faith not grounded in any logical deduction. He said 'magical immunity.' I showed him why 'magical immunity' is bad. You read into it 'elemental magic immunity' without any basis in his words that he meant to say 'elemental damage immunity,' something he still hasn't said. Yeah I'm jumping down his throat at this point but it's only because I keep having to clarify myself.

Guess I'll work on that writing style.

[XxSlusherxx]

Right after you're done with that, melee burn Jailer of Love

eh

P.S. All WAR DM could be done very feasibly ;/

I've discussed this with people, not sure if it would work, someone would have to hold the others thf/nin or nin, and you would need a rdm/drk for TT or he will own the entire alliance.

it's possible that 2 war/nin, nin/war, mnk/nin pt's could take thme down fast enough with the third one serving as support, but you would absolutly need a support group.

[Arvin]

I think you're all just overreacting. :< it wont be too bad.