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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Screw mages, mnk x4 + brd + paralyna bitch
    2 of that party you mentioned are mage or /mage

    Screw mages allright.
    Paralyna bitch could be anyjob/whm, whm main and rdm main have haste tho.

    And you know bards are never gonna be screwed, their abilities for a party are too damn good. There's a reason why every fast xp setup includes at least 1 bard.

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    To the next bandwagon job for you Xavier?

    You're already leveling MNK right? It's just a matter of switching merits and gear once you find out what the next job is to have an advantage over the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Chambers
    To the next bandwagon job for you Xavier?

    You're already leveling MNK right? It's just a matter of switching merits and gear once you find out what the next job is to have an advantage over the rest.
    /elude flamewar

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    I'm really not trying to flame, but when you see "PLD/NIN/RNG/WAR/SAM" and 'if they nerf this job too I quit' it's a little bit stupid. Play a job you like, or several jobs to be able to do different things (tank, DD, support), but when it's kinda apparent you're going through DD and tank jobs to pick to the one with the most broken playstyle, I don't think you can legitimately play the "I love this job so much I'll quit if they nerf it" card.

    Sekkite gets pretty fucking annoying with his "waahh-waahh DRK sux" posts but at least he's consistent in that he only wants to play (or DD, at least) as a DRK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Chambers
    I'm really not trying to flame, but when you see "PLD/NIN/RNG/WAR/SAM" and 'if they nerf this job too I quit' it's a little bit stupid. Play a job you like, or several jobs to be able to do different things (tank, DD, support), but when it's kinda apparent you're going through DD and tank jobs to pick to the one with the most broken playstyle, I don't think you can legitimately play the "I love this job so much I'll quit if they nerf it" card.

    Sekkite gets pretty fucking annoying with his "waahh-waahh DRK sux" posts but at least he's consistent in that he only wants to play (or DD, at least) as a DRK.
    I get tired of your bitching directed at me as well. I believe my complaints on this thread were about two handed weapons, not DRK. Stop putting words in my mouth in an attempt to discredit my complaints which I feel are legit.

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    Shhhh

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Chambers
    To the next bandwagon job for you Xavier?

    You're already leveling MNK right? It's just a matter of switching merits and gear once you find out what the next job is to have an advantage over the rest.
    WAR wasn't a badwagon job when we started. I didn't even pay attention to the job much back then. We leveled it because we had Ridill laying around lol.
    MNK is for increasing my merit PT possibilities. Leveling monk 1-70 SUCKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vudoodoodoo
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Chambers
    To the next bandwagon job for you Xavier?

    You're already leveling MNK right? It's just a matter of switching merits and gear once you find out what the next job is to have an advantage over the rest.
    WAR wasn't a badwagon job when we started. I didn't even pay attention to the job much back then. We leveled it because we had Ridill laying around lol.
    MNK is for increasing my merit PT possibilities. Leveling monk 1-70 SUCKS.
    If monk 1-70 sucks so bad, why level it? Spend that time meriting, and cut out the weeks/months of gettting another job through the grind. You know, if meriting is your final goal anyway.

    And lol if you wanted to increase your possiblities you'd go whm, rdm, or brd. Guess they don't elongate e-peen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilgar
    Quote Originally Posted by vudoodoodoo
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Chambers
    To the next bandwagon job for you Xavier?

    You're already leveling MNK right? It's just a matter of switching merits and gear once you find out what the next job is to have an advantage over the rest.
    WAR wasn't a badwagon job when we started. I didn't even pay attention to the job much back then. We leveled it because we had Ridill laying around lol.
    MNK is for increasing my merit PT possibilities. Leveling monk 1-70 SUCKS.
    If monk 1-70 sucks so bad, why level it? Spend that time meriting, and cut out the weeks/months of gettting another job through the grind. You know, if meriting is your final goal anyway.

    And lol if you wanted to increase your possiblities you'd go whm, rdm, or brd. Guess they don't elongate e-peen though.
    Think of it as long term investment. Spend some time getting it to that high level, then he'll start reaping his rewards at the end.

    Also maybe he wants a little variety

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    Thinking puppetmaster may use their pet as an independant uncontrolled thing.. We have group effect and DD pets from smn, we have damage bonus pet from drg, we have DD and crowd-control pet abilities from BST..

    The only type of pet function that we don't have reflected in the current game is the "adventuring fellow" pet, just like the system they've been slowing implementing already.
    So thinking pets may 'mime' the abilities we do, or act on their own depending on how you raise it/set it up.

    Too bad the massive amount of AOE status affects and damage and mob tp gain kills the concept of always-out pets in this game for party and HNM play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fooma
    So thinking pets may 'mime' the abilities we do, or act on their own depending on how you raise it/set it up.
    I never really thought about the possibilites of 'raising' a pet/puppet/etc. A highly customizable pet would be pretty damn cool.

  12. #72
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    Re: Fanfest Dev Panel #2: Jobs: PUPPETMASTER

    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthyos
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    - job ability to give your own hp or mp to other members.
    this will be nice for rdm in exp pt's i think, esp those who /fume at their whms having almost full mp bars when they have drained most of theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Screw mages, mnk x4 + brd + paralyna bitch
    2 of that party you mentioned are mage or /mage

    Screw mages allright.
    Paralyna bitch could be anyjob/whm, whm main and rdm main have haste tho.

    And you know bards are never gonna be screwed, their abilities for a party are too damn good. There's a reason why every fast xp setup includes at least 1 bard.
    mnk mnk mnk brd rdm whm is the strongest KRT party. the development team was cool. some people asked fucking retarded questions "Can whm get mp drain that his AOE mp heal on your party?" what the fuck kind of idea is that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    It's the nin sub they're referring to. War/nin is too strong because it's pretty much second strongest melee DD combination in the game to mnk/war, yet still gets the incredible defensive abilities that subjob ninja provides.

    The last time the DD king could sub nin and still top the damage charts, ranger, they nerfed it so that you can't put up quite the same numbers and retain utsusemi. You sorta gotta pick between the two of them.
    Raising the level cap to 75 unbalanced the game.

    I don't think anyone complained about overpowered back when RNG only had ichi and WAR was a subjob.

    I read in the notes posted somewhere today that Square "doesn't want to tell people how to level", so I don't think theres going to be any kind of a nerf to war/nin. They said they want to provide reasons to sub other jobs, and to use other weapons, which has me interested, but just sounds like a boost instead of a nerf.

    If war/nin goes, I'm done lol. I'm in the same boat as Lockecole, I just can't be bothered anymore if they nerf another job I levled.
    Ditto - if they screw war/nin... man, I've already wasted so much time with this fucking game, I'll just quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    It's the nin sub they're referring to. War/nin is too strong because it's pretty much second strongest melee DD combination in the game to mnk/war, yet still gets the incredible defensive abilities that subjob ninja provides.

    The last time the DD king could sub nin and still top the damage charts, ranger, they nerfed it so that you can't put up quite the same numbers and retain utsusemi. You sorta gotta pick between the two of them.
    Raising the level cap to 75 unbalanced the game.

    I don't think anyone complained about overpowered back when RNG only had ichi and WAR was a subjob.

    I read in the notes posted somewhere today that Square "doesn't want to tell people how to level", so I don't think theres going to be any kind of a nerf to war/nin. They said they want to provide reasons to sub other jobs, and to use other weapons, which has me interested, but just sounds like a boost instead of a nerf.

    If war/nin goes, I'm done lol. I'm in the same boat as Lockecole, I just can't be bothered anymore if they nerf another job I levled.
    Ditto - if they screw war/nin... man, I've already wasted so much time with this fucking game, I'll just quit.
    Bitch bitch bitch.

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    hooray for videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    It's the nin sub they're referring to. War/nin is too strong because it's pretty much second strongest melee DD combination in the game to mnk/war, yet still gets the incredible defensive abilities that subjob ninja provides.

    The last time the DD king could sub nin and still top the damage charts, ranger, they nerfed it so that you can't put up quite the same numbers and retain utsusemi. You sorta gotta pick between the two of them.
    Raising the level cap to 75 unbalanced the game.

    I don't think anyone complained about overpowered back when RNG only had ichi and WAR was a subjob.

    I read in the notes posted somewhere today that Square "doesn't want to tell people how to level", so I don't think theres going to be any kind of a nerf to war/nin. They said they want to provide reasons to sub other jobs, and to use other weapons, which has me interested, but just sounds like a boost instead of a nerf.

    If war/nin goes, I'm done lol. I'm in the same boat as Lockecole, I just can't be bothered anymore if they nerf another job I levled.
    Ditto - if they screw war/nin... man, I've already wasted so much time with this fucking game, I'll just quit.
    Bitch bitch bitch.
    Hahaha, say what you want - I'm not going to pay for something that I won't enjoy, and likewise waste time on it. Time is money.

  18. #78
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    The real answer to this thread is, fuck Puppetmaster, where the hell is Time Mage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    It's the nin sub they're referring to. War/nin is too strong because it's pretty much second strongest melee DD combination in the game to mnk/war, yet still gets the incredible defensive abilities that subjob ninja provides.

    The last time the DD king could sub nin and still top the damage charts, ranger, they nerfed it so that you can't put up quite the same numbers and retain utsusemi. You sorta gotta pick between the two of them.
    Raising the level cap to 75 unbalanced the game.

    I don't think anyone complained about overpowered back when RNG only had ichi and WAR was a subjob.

    I read in the notes posted somewhere today that Square "doesn't want to tell people how to level", so I don't think theres going to be any kind of a nerf to war/nin. They said they want to provide reasons to sub other jobs, and to use other weapons, which has me interested, but just sounds like a boost instead of a nerf.

    If war/nin goes, I'm done lol. I'm in the same boat as Lockecole, I just can't be bothered anymore if they nerf another job I levled.
    Ditto - if they screw war/nin... man, I've already wasted so much time with this fucking game, I'll just quit.
    Bitch bitch bitch.
    Hahaha, say what you want - I'm not going to pay for something that I won't enjoy, and likewise waste time on it. Time is money.
    yes you will

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    lol just glad alot of people are still oblivious to decked out nins out DDing almost everyone in certain situations...including wars and mnks.

    Curious what the new uses of TP for Samurai will be, maybe somthing like giving TP to other pt members. And the reducing enemy TP is kinda intruiging, just depends by how much and how often. And I really hope 2h weapons get fixed in some sort of way. DRK/WAR has three massive attak boosts...so thats not exactly the norm. Fucking SAM/THF doesnt have shit >.> And even /war...its ok dmg, but when my nin can out DD my sam, somthing is wrong.

    /shocked they are talking about improving most jobs instead of nerfing, thank god.

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