Lost

[Okan]

I'm not too sure on symptons of pregnancy and too lazy to search it from studying for a test tomorrow, but we do know they've been on the island for at least two months and there is no telling how long it has been since that encounter.. My guess would be at least 3-4 months... She'd be a good bit through the pregnancy and wouldn't just be noticing the effects...

[Byrd]

Map here

Entertainment Weekly has a nice blow-up of the map on page 11. They obtained this directly from the producers, and 90% of it is actually legible.

[Lockecole]

In the Claire episode a few weeks back, we saw Ethan and Zeke talking outside the babies room and I assumed Zeke was the leader. Then Zeke makes reference to someone else, "What am I supposed to tell him? You know what he's going to do when he finds out. Damn it, Ethan." Suggesting there's someone else running the show. My money's on Henry Gale.

I'm going to have to disagree. I highly doubt he is the leader. Why in the world would he infaltrate them? No, The leader was the bearded guy that jack and co. had a talk with while looking for michael. And god, wtf is happening to him I wonder.

I see a sort of problem coming about. I'm not sure if Claire ever told them about the hospital wing of the 'facility' so it may take a long ass time for them to relate the map, to it being a map of the island. But then again, lock only got a few seconds of staring at it. I'm sure he could have read the "I am here", if I could read it.

Zeke is the bearded guy, who is the guy who was talking to Ethan about someone above them leadership wise getting pissed off. So there's no way he's the top honcho, there's definately someone above them all. Who knows who it could be...but I'm thinking someone we already know...someone that would surprise us.

[royze]

In the Claire episode a few weeks back, we saw Ethan and Zeke talking outside the babies room and I assumed Zeke was the leader. Then Zeke makes reference to someone else, "What am I supposed to tell him? You know what he's going to do when he finds out. Damn it, Ethan." Suggesting there's someone else running the show. My money's on Henry Gale.

I'm going to have to disagree. I highly doubt he is the leader. Why in the world would he infaltrate them? No, The leader was the bearded guy that jack and co. had a talk with while looking for michael. And god, wtf is happening to him I wonder.

I see a sort of problem coming about. I'm not sure if Claire ever told them about the hospital wing of the 'facility' so it may take a long ass time for them to relate the map, to it being a map of the island. But then again, lock only got a few seconds of staring at it. I'm sure he could have read the "I am here", if I could read it.

Zeke is the bearded guy, who is the guy who was talking to Ethan about someone above them leadership wise getting pissed off. So there's no way he's the top honcho, there's definately someone above them all. Who knows who it could be...but I'm thinking someone we already know...someone that would surprise us.

SPOILER....he is claire's baby

[Kaylia]

We're not actually positive of this... I genuinely believed Sun when she said she hadn't been with anybody else. Even though in that scene with the other Asian dude (her English tutor), he says something along the lines of "Who's saying you should stay for Jin?" but we don't actually find any clarity that she did anything with him. Hell, they were inches apart and I thought they were gonna kiss, but maybe they did kiss and just didn't show it..? I guess it could be either, I just didn't feel as though Sun had any feelings for her tutor...

It's true we are not sure, however, the official website make us think they did in the episode recap section.

Sun swears to Jin that she has never been with another man. Jin accepts her word and declares that the pregnancy must be a miracle. Tears of joy roll down his face, but the look on Sun's face tells us that we can't be entirely sure we've heard the whole truth…

When something official give you hint like that, it's really rare they are lying.

I'm not too sure on symptons of pregnancy and too lazy to search it from studying for a test tomorrow, but we do know they've been on the island for at least two months and there is no telling how long it has been since that encounter.. My guess would be at least 3-4 months... She'd be a good bit through the pregnancy and wouldn't just be noticing the effects...

We got "The other 49 days" not too long ago. I assume it's been less than 2 months since it happened, but I might be wrong.




If anyone is interested, there is some nice wikipedia out there about the bunker
http://tviv.org/wiki/Lost/Dharma_Initiative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dharma_Initiative

[Raineh]

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[Parshath]

So... Wednesday's episode... I really don't know what to think. I'm starting to get really confused, and I end up asking more questions every time I get the answer to one.

[Kaylia]

What was hard to understand? I thought it was a nice episode, but there wasn't so many big "mysteries", unless I missed them.

[Parshath]

What was hard to understand? I thought it was a nice episode, but there wasn't so many big "mysteries", unless I missed them.

Well, there was Libby appearing in that insane asylum thingy at the end... Does that not make you wonder and ask more questions?

[Eternus]

Yeah like the island isn't really there and everyone there is a mental patient in the same hospital. Mean that type of question?

[Lockecole]

Yeah like the island isn't really there and everyone there is a mental patient in the same hospital. Mean that type of question?

Well, my main question is...IS Henry lying. Is that whole button thing nothing. Did he not hit the button. IMO the whole reason he was sent there was to KEEP them from hitting that button. His group of people I think went to that island to keep that button from being hit, and I think thats why he's here now. Of course...that doesnt explain why he would have hit it before, when Locke was under the door, and if he did indeed not put in the code and nothing happened, then he's not lying. Why did he come back...why won't he tell them who he is? He OBVIOUSLY is part of Zeke and the gang, but claims that there's someone above them all.

Uggh I dunno, I dont think its all a dream, or a hallucination. The creators have built too much on this being something legit, the button, what the island is all about. They wouldn't blow all chances away of that being something, by saying the last two seasons you've been watching didnt really happen in reality.

[Eternus]

I think it would be fucking awesome if they did. They aren't lost on an island, they all lost their sanity instead.

[Parshath]

Uggh I dunno, I dont think its all a dream, or a hallucination. The creators have built too much on this being something legit, the button, what the island is all about. They wouldn't blow all chances away of that being something, by saying the last two seasons you've been watching didnt really happen in reality.

I totally agree. Plus, I would be furious with ABC if this was all just a dream, or a hallucination... That would be totally ridiculous, and so anti-climatic lol.

[Lockecole]

Uggh I dunno, I dont think its all a dream, or a hallucination. The creators have built too much on this being something legit, the button, what the island is all about. They wouldn't blow all chances away of that being something, by saying the last two seasons you've been watching didnt really happen in reality.

I totally agree. Plus, I would be furious with ABC if this was all just a dream, or a hallucination... That would be totally ridiculous, and so anti-climatic lol.

Exactly...people know how to make TV Shows by now, especially the group making Lost, and they know anti-climatic when they see it. When I KNOW for a fact if something ended up being true, and I'm thinking "fuck that", I know the creators won't go that route.

Eternus, as cool of an idea as it is, what can they do with it? All of these people you've grown to love, care for, and hate, are now just suddenly crazy? None of their pasts were real, none of who they actually are is real, their personalities. It would break every connection anyone had with any of the main characters. It's like being lied to, about everything you knew about a person, it hurts. And its hard to recover from. I just can't see them doing that to us. BUT. and this is a big but, if they do, they better find a way to make it interesting and build off of it. I have faith in them.

[Eternus]

I guess I was thinking it would be nice for a show to do something completely off the wall like that. I hate happy endings... so generic. Also screw what the people want. Tragedies are the greatest of man's creations as far as storytelling goes. Their pasts could be real, just that was them before they went to the funny farm, where they are medicated with something that places them all in a false reality. They could bust out of this reality and revolt against the hospital in the end I guess. Fuck it, it would be cool for everyone to die imo lol.

[Parshath]

Indeed... ABC have been good to us so far. Every episode makes me itch for the next Wednesday to come around. The first series was awesome, since they were stuck, making camp in a cave/on the beach and these 'others' would take people, and people just had absolutely no idea what was going on.

I'm starting to have faith in the second season again, as I felt the beginning of the second season was a little lackluster... But now, there's more of that element of mystery. Sure it's annoying at times, but it keeps me watching and 100% interested.

[Kaylia]

What was hard to understand? I thought it was a nice episode, but there wasn't so many big "mysteries", unless I missed them.

Well, there was Libby appearing in that insane asylum thingy at the end... Does that not make you wonder and ask more questions?

It only explain why Hurley recognizes her in the previous episode, and why she is interested in him. :D I though it was an answer more than a question.

Well, my main question is...IS Henry lying. Is that whole button thing nothing. Did he not hit the button. IMO the whole reason he was sent there was to KEEP them from hitting that button. His group of people I think went to that island to keep that button from being hit, and I think thats why he's here now. Of course...that doesnt explain why he would have hit it before, when Locke was under the door, and if he did indeed not put in the code and nothing happened, then he's not lying. Why did he come back...why won't he tell them who he is? He OBVIOUSLY is part of Zeke and the gang, but claims that there's someone above them all.

Werebt Zeke and Ethan talking about someone "higher" in Claire episode?

I don't think Henry was lying about the button because there is no reason to press it. It's not like dharma initiative couldnt make a robot doing it for them.
Henry is probably just trying to break Locke's faith in the island, and make him does something stupid.

Personally, I think the island is just a big "live" experiment made by Dharma Initiative to test on real guinea pig their theory. Every phenomena can be explained by dharma's studying field (magnetic, medecine, meantal illness).

[Okan]

Dammit... It was a new episode. I thought it was a rerun because no one bumped this topic.

I HATE YOU ALL!
/wrists

[Kaylia]

I think it would be fucking awesome if they did. They aren't lost on an island, they all lost their sanity instead.

One of my favorite explanation, even if I doubt it will happen was that the island act like some sort of purgatory. They all died in the crash and are trying to redeem themselves and accept their mistakes to move on to something else.


But like I said in the post above, I think it's more like a crazy scientifical experiment made by dharma industry to see how people react in fucked up situations.

[Lockecole]

I guess the BIG question is, was the plain crash real, should the passengers be there, or was this place discovered by accident? Alot of where this show can go is based off of wether they're meant to be here, or wether or not they're barging in by accident, and the plain crash was in reality real. From the attitude they got from Zeke etc, (this is OUR island, you're trespassing) that makes me think the island is real, and that they weren't sent here by the people on the island.