whats more sad

[divisortheory]

ok, here it is, you got rich by which of the following methods (you may choose more than 1):

1) 1 or more valuable NM drops
2) Farming non-NM mobs
3) Gardening
4) Harvesting, Excavation (lol), Logging, or Mining
5) A friend left and gave you a bunch of gil and/or items
6) A friend didn't leave, but gave you a bunch of gil and/or items anyway
7) Crafting
8) More than one of the above
9) None of the above.

10) participating in endgame for 2+ years?

Wouldn't that fall under #1?

[epigram]

I've been in end game with a real end game job since the beginning of '04.

S H O W M E T H E M O N E Y


lol

11.) Ripping off your ls, might be why he can't get help.

BTW: You know what's really sad? When you quote someone then can't spell the same word correctly below...

[axile]

ok, here it is, you got rich by which of the following methods (you may choose more than 1):

1) 1 or more valuable NM drops
2) Farming non-NM mobs
3) Gardening
4) Harvesting, Excavation (lol), Logging, or Mining
5) A friend left and gave you a bunch of gil and/or items
6) A friend didn't leave, but gave you a bunch of gil and/or items anyway
7) Crafting
8) More than one of the above
9) None of the above.

i must have to go with 8. but my main money maker isnt there. 1 and 2 pretty major too. got some good money from 7 as well

[NynJa]

ok, here it is, you got rich by which of the following methods (you may choose more than 1):

1) 1 or more valuable NM drops
2) Farming non-NM mobs
3) Gardening
4) Harvesting, Excavation (lol), Logging, or Mining
5) A friend left and gave you a bunch of gil and/or items
6) A friend didn't leave, but gave you a bunch of gil and/or items anyway
7) Crafting
8) More than one of the above
9) None of the above.

i must have to go with 8. but my main money maker isnt there. 1 and 2 pretty major too. got some good money from 7 as well

Y HELO THAR IGE

[axile]

ok, here it is, you got rich by which of the following methods (you may choose more than 1):

1) 1 or more valuable NM drops
2) Farming non-NM mobs
3) Gardening
4) Harvesting, Excavation (lol), Logging, or Mining
5) A friend left and gave you a bunch of gil and/or items
6) A friend didn't leave, but gave you a bunch of gil and/or items anyway
7) Crafting
8) More than one of the above
9) None of the above.

i must have to go with 8. but my main money maker isnt there. 1 and 2 pretty major too. got some good money from 7 as well

Y HELO THAR IGE

you arer 13pages behind -_-

[kareface]

[rant]

I'm shocked this thread is still going. Do you really want to play 20 questions with this jackass? His conceited and vauge posts about his mysterious money source just make me want to not believe anything he says in the first place. The only people that have stood up in his defense have been just as childish and incoherent as he has. Their posts lack any real proof, I honestly believe that if he told them that he soloed AV for money that they would believe him. Nothing that he or anyone else has said in this thread has given me a reason to rule out this kid just RMT'ed his dad into a second mortgage.

The arguments I have heard are:

He has too much money, he couldn't of bouoght it all.

I don't buy this. The game has been out for almost 3 years now. He didn't buy a billion gil yesterday. I'm sure he bought it in chunks over time. Every time his birthday came around and x-mas was over his gil total shot through the roof.


He crafted his fortune.

I believe this was brought up and he said that wasn't the case. Regardless I'll make a point against this. Where did the money come from to fund the crafting in the first place? Just about anyone that has done serious money making crafting on any server is pretty well known. I can think of all the major players on my server that have had luck with crafting and have made big money because if it. In turn I would be willing to stick up for them. No one had come on this forum in his defense saying "yea, his name fills the AH history for _blank_ item" or "hes always bazaaring rare HQs in _blank_ zone overnight". If he truly did make money off crafting wheres the proof? Instead of bragging about gear in you sig wheres the synths you accomplished?


He played endgame for 3 years.

This is the most reasonable argument IMHO. Does anyone else get the feeling that the only people that like this guy on his server are a bunch of 14 y/o ally kids that look up to his wallet? If you have played in endgame for 3 years, where is the LS defending you? Not the 14 y/o fankiddies who within 20 posts manage to get flamed off the forums. On top of that he a loldrg, It's not like hes gonna get into the big money making shells.


1 or more valuable NM drops.

Very possible, but can you name your last 5 big money sales and who they were to? Can anyone else confirm the fact that you sold anything at all? Why is no one defending this person otherwise.


The mystery money.

My guess is you have some cracked up story where you make alot of money doing something that no one can prove or know about and it all involves people that you can't remember the names of. If you made all this money and it wasn't one of the reasons listed why not just go out and say "I made my money doing _insert lie here_" and let it be done with?

My point:

He ruled out the major ones already.

He himself said that his money hasn't come from: Gardening, Harvesting, Excavation, Logging, Mining or Hand-outs. He hasn't offered any real proof or defense that hes made any real money from drops or crafting. If I had a signature I wouldn't be gloating about my gear, I would have my rare item +1 or You recived a Kracken Club off of Robber Crab in it. Also that would of been one of the first things offered in my defense, "Yea, I HQ'ed a bunch of stuff and got some good NM drops". Instead he dances around the topic and illudes to some secret source of income.


No proof or eyewitnesses.

If I made over a billion gil, your damn sure someone knows where some of that came from. Your name would be a major role on the AH history or Bazzar area. As far as I know, fishing is the only real source of NPCable profit. He ruled that out a while ago. If he had a HNM ls giving him loot or money, where are they in his defense? How come there aren't more people in his LS with that knid of money? He has yet to revel his mysterious income, but I'm gonna call it now. No one that isn't a gullable 14 y/o will be able to prove that he made the money or that his story is in anyway true.


His attitude.

Just the way he acts is enough for me. Regardless of his guilt, he is conceited and obnoxious. Hes got the White Box E-penis that gil buyers tend to have. If you can't get the rare/ex stuff, he'll get something almost as impressive. The flaw is that the White Box doesn't always represent time and effort because It can be paied for. If you want to post something impressive in your sig, post the accomplishments that allowed you to aquire the equip.

It's not just his E-penis, but his obligatory posts. Leading people on instead of just being frank with them is annoying beyond words. You post about this mystery income but don't tell us what it is. If your trying to keep is a secret why even reply to the thread at all? 14 pages of people calling you a cheater and an gil buyer, why not let them in on your secret? If you intend to keep it a secret why even bother replying, it will only aggravate the situation. You laugh at people who call you a botter or say you buy gil, but you offer no counter to the claims. "again thax i like being called gil buyer lol" isn't a defense. If you don't feel you need to defend yourself why rehash the thread?

Lastly, his kiddie speak. If he doesn't have the patients to use proper punctuation how on earth did he make around or over a billion gil. In all honesty they aren't directly related to each other. But is plays to his childish mentality. Even if he isn't 14 y/o, he acts like he is. Everyones met the guy in his 20's that never fit into a social crowd. By there very nature they will compulsively lie to fit into a group. This kids posts reek of "I'm desperate for people to think I'm cool", and that in turn makes me disbelieve anything he says with out solid proof.


Finally.

I've had many dealings with someone just like this in my last LS. He calmed that he had 100GS mule and thats where all his money came from. One day when I sent a tell to that mule asking for a synth he replied in Japanese. When I asked him if he had ever heard of the person from my LS, they replied they had no idea who that was. He lied for years covering where his income came from, people who knew him well even defended him. In the end he RMT'ed the shit out of the server and lied to cover it up. My final point, this guy will never come out and say "Yea, I bought gil, *tearface*" and I'm well aware of this fact. I just don't want to continue listing to him gloat about equip and laugh at people who thinks he cheats when he offers nothing in his own defense.

[/rant]

[Dezzimal]

[rant]

I'm shocked this thread is still going. Do you really want to play 20 questions with this jackass? His conceited and vauge posts about his mysterious money source just make me want to not believe anything he says in the first place. The only people that have stood up in his defense have been just as childish and incoherent as he has. Their posts lack any real proof, I honestly believe that if he told them that he soloed AV for money that they would believe him. Nothing that he or anyone else has said in this thread has given me a reason to rule out this kid just RMT'ed his dad into a second mortgage.

The arguments I have heard are:

He has too much money, he couldn't of bouoght it all.

I don't buy this. The game has been out for almost 3 years now. He didn't buy a billion gil yesterday. I'm sure he bought it in chunks over time. Every time his birthday came around and x-mas was over his gil total shot through the roof.


He crafted his fortune.

I believe this was brought up and he said that wasn't the case. Regardless I'll make a point against this. Where did the money come from to fund the crafting in the first place? Just about anyone that has done serious money making crafting on any server is pretty well known. I can think of all the major players on my server that have had luck with crafting and have made big money because if it. In turn I would be willing to stick up for them. No one had come on this forum in his defense saying "yea, his name fills the AH history for _blank_ item" or "hes always bazaaring rare HQs in _blank_ zone overnight". If he truly did make money off crafting wheres the proof? Instead of bragging about gear in you sig wheres the synths you accomplished?


He played endgame for 3 years.

This is the most reasonable argument IMHO. Does anyone else get the feeling that the only people that like this guy on his server are a bunch of 14 y/o ally kids that look up to his wallet? If you have played in endgame for 3 years, where is the LS defending you? Not the 14 y/o fankiddies who within 20 posts manage to get flamed off the forums. On top of that he a loldrg, It's not like hes gonna get into the big money making shells.


1 or more valuable NM drops.

Very possible, but can you name your last 5 big money sales and who they were to? Can anyone else confirm the fact that you sold anything at all? Why is no one defending this person otherwise.


The mystery money.

My guess is you have some cracked up story where you make alot of money doing something that no one can prove or know about and it all involves people that you can't remember the names of. If you made all this money and it wasn't one of the reasons listed why not just go out and say "I made my money doing _insert lie here_" and let it be done with?

My point:

He ruled out the major ones already.

He himself said that his money hasn't come from: Gardening, Harvesting, Excavation, Logging, Mining or Hand-outs. He hasn't offered any real proof or defense that hes made any real money from drops or crafting. If I had a signature I wouldn't be gloating about my gear, I would have my rare item +1 or You recived a Kracken Club off of Robber Crab in it. Also that would of been one of the first things offered in my defense, "Yea, I HQ'ed a bunch of stuff and got some good NM drops". Instead he dances around the topic and illudes to some secret source of income.


No proof or eyewitnesses.

If I made over a billion gil, your damn sure someone knows where some of that came from. Your name would be a major role on the AH history or Bazzar area. As far as I know, fishing is the only real source of NPCable profit. He ruled that out a while ago. If he had a HNM ls giving him loot or money, where are they in his defense? How come there aren't more people in his LS with that knid of money? He has yet to revel his mysterious income, but I'm gonna call it now. No one that isn't a gullable 14 y/o will be able to prove that he made the money or that his story is in anyway true.


His attitude.

Just the way he acts is enough for me. Regardless of his guilt, he is conceited and obnoxious. Hes got the White Box E-penis that gil buyers tend to have. If you can't get the rare/ex stuff, he'll get something almost as impressive. The flaw is that the White Box doesn't always represent time and effort because It can be paied for. If you want to post something impressive in your sig, post the accomplishments that allowed you to aquire the equip.

It's not just his E-penis, but his obligatory posts. Leading people on instead of just being frank with them is annoying beyond words. You post about this mystery income but don't tell us what it is. If your trying to keep is a secret why even reply to the thread at all? 14 pages of people calling you a cheater and an gil buyer, why not let them in on your secret? If you intend to keep it a secret why even bother replying, it will only aggravate the situation. You laugh at people who call you a botter or say you buy gil, but you offer no counter to the claims. "again thax i like being called gil buyer lol" isn't a defense. If you don't feel you need to defend yourself why rehash the thread?

Lastly, his kiddie speak. If he doesn't have the patients to use proper punctuation how on earth did he make around or over a billion gil. In all honesty they aren't directly related to each other. But is plays to his childish mentality. Even if he isn't 14 y/o, he acts like he is. Everyones met the guy in his 20's that never fit into a social crowd. By there very nature they will compulsively lie to fit into a group. This kids posts reek of "I'm desperate for people to think I'm cool", and that in turn makes me disbelieve anything he says with out solid proof.


Finally.

I've had many dealings with someone just like this in my last LS. He calmed that he had 100GS mule and thats where all his money came from. One day when I sent a tell to that mule asking for a synth he replied in Japanese. When I asked him if he had ever heard of the person from my LS, they replied they had no idea who that was. He lied for years covering where his income came from, people who knew him well even defended him. In the end he RMT'ed the shit out of the server and lied to cover it up. My final point, this guy will never come out and say "Yea, I bought gil, *tearface*" and I'm well aware of this fact. I just don't want to continue listing to him gloat about equip and laugh at people who thinks he cheats when he offers nothing in his own defense.

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Wow you want to double space that, print it off and hand it in to the english professor? An essay if I ever saw one.

[Gemera]

14 pages geez. As for this mystery gil making method he's 100+3 Alchemy and did end game for a number of years. Mass HQ Silver bullets before the rng "nerf" is my guess as to how he attainted majority of the gil to fund his relic, as he dominated the market for quite sometime. I also used to see him nuking Goobbues for awhile.

I'll never forget when he asked my BST friend if he could join him for exp on his loldrg.

[axile]

[rant]

I'm shocked this thread is still going. Do you really want to play 20 questions with this jackass? His conceited and vauge posts about his mysterious money source just make me want to not believe anything he says in the first place. The only people that have stood up in his defense have been just as childish and incoherent as he has. Their posts lack any real proof, I honestly believe that if he told them that he soloed AV for money that they would believe him. Nothing that he or anyone else has said in this thread has given me a reason to rule out this kid just RMT'ed his dad into a second mortgage.

The arguments I have heard are:

He has too much money, he couldn't of bouoght it all.

I don't buy this. The game has been out for almost 3 years now. He didn't buy a billion gil yesterday. I'm sure he bought it in chunks over time. Every time his birthday came around and x-mas was over his gil total shot through the roof.


He crafted his fortune.

I believe this was brought up and he said that wasn't the case. Regardless I'll make a point against this. Where did the money come from to fund the crafting in the first place? Just about anyone that has done serious money making crafting on any server is pretty well known. I can think of all the major players on my server that have had luck with crafting and have made big money because if it. In turn I would be willing to stick up for them. No one had come on this forum in his defense saying "yea, his name fills the AH history for _blank_ item" or "hes always bazaaring rare HQs in _blank_ zone overnight". If he truly did make money off crafting wheres the proof? Instead of bragging about gear in you sig wheres the synths you accomplished?


He played endgame for 3 years.

This is the most reasonable argument IMHO. Does anyone else get the feeling that the only people that like this guy on his server are a bunch of 14 y/o ally kids that look up to his wallet? If you have played in endgame for 3 years, where is the LS defending you? Not the 14 y/o fankiddies who within 20 posts manage to get flamed off the forums. On top of that he a loldrg, It's not like hes gonna get into the big money making shells.


1 or more valuable NM drops.

Very possible, but can you name your last 5 big money sales and who they were to? Can anyone else confirm the fact that you sold anything at all? Why is no one defending this person otherwise.


The mystery money.

My guess is you have some cracked up story where you make alot of money doing something that no one can prove or know about and it all involves people that you can't remember the names of. If you made all this money and it wasn't one of the reasons listed why not just go out and say "I made my money doing _insert lie here_" and let it be done with?

My point:

He ruled out the major ones already.

He himself said that his money hasn't come from: Gardening, Harvesting, Excavation, Logging, Mining or Hand-outs. He hasn't offered any real proof or defense that hes made any real money from drops or crafting. If I had a signature I wouldn't be gloating about my gear, I would have my rare item +1 or You recived a Kracken Club off of Robber Crab in it. Also that would of been one of the first things offered in my defense, "Yea, I HQ'ed a bunch of stuff and got some good NM drops". Instead he dances around the topic and illudes to some secret source of income.


No proof or eyewitnesses.

If I made over a billion gil, your damn sure someone knows where some of that came from. Your name would be a major role on the AH history or Bazzar area. As far as I know, fishing is the only real source of NPCable profit. He ruled that out a while ago. If he had a HNM ls giving him loot or money, where are they in his defense? How come there aren't more people in his LS with that knid of money? He has yet to revel his mysterious income, but I'm gonna call it now. No one that isn't a gullable 14 y/o will be able to prove that he made the money or that his story is in anyway true.


His attitude.

Just the way he acts is enough for me. Regardless of his guilt, he is conceited and obnoxious. Hes got the White Box E-penis that gil buyers tend to have. If you can't get the rare/ex stuff, he'll get something almost as impressive. The flaw is that the White Box doesn't always represent time and effort because It can be paied for. If you want to post something impressive in your sig, post the accomplishments that allowed you to aquire the equip.

It's not just his E-penis, but his obligatory posts. Leading people on instead of just being frank with them is annoying beyond words. You post about this mystery income but don't tell us what it is. If your trying to keep is a secret why even reply to the thread at all? 14 pages of people calling you a cheater and an gil buyer, why not let them in on your secret? If you intend to keep it a secret why even bother replying, it will only aggravate the situation. You laugh at people who call you a botter or say you buy gil, but you offer no counter to the claims. "again thax i like being called gil buyer lol" isn't a defense. If you don't feel you need to defend yourself why rehash the thread?

Lastly, his kiddie speak. If he doesn't have the patients to use proper punctuation how on earth did he make around or over a billion gil. In all honesty they aren't directly related to each other. But is plays to his childish mentality. Even if he isn't 14 y/o, he acts like he is. Everyones met the guy in his 20's that never fit into a social crowd. By there very nature they will compulsively lie to fit into a group. This kids posts reek of "I'm desperate for people to think I'm cool", and that in turn makes me disbelieve anything he says with out solid proof.


Finally.

I've had many dealings with someone just like this in my last LS. He calmed that he had 100GS mule and thats where all his money came from. One day when I sent a tell to that mule asking for a synth he replied in Japanese. When I asked him if he had ever heard of the person from my LS, they replied they had no idea who that was. He lied for years covering where his income came from, people who knew him well even defended him. In the end he RMT'ed the shit out of the server and lied to cover it up. My final point, this guy will never come out and say "Yea, I bought gil, *tearface*" and I'm well aware of this fact. I just don't want to continue listing to him gloat about equip and laugh at people who thinks he cheats when he offers nothing in his own defense.

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1. thax for adding to the post.
2. no prove
3. money came from cutting while waiting for pt from first job drg. hk cluster is easy money for alchemy. i spamed silver bullets and oil at diff times.i already said crafting help my money not main. i never brag about stuff in my sigh haha i lvled crafting for fun before now its hella annoying.
4. whenever i get a ls somone always end up getting crushed by my ego so rather not join one -_-;
5. so basically u want me to tell u how i made big money hahaha. nice try
6. as above. but if u ask really really nicely i might tell u!!!
7. lol i dont see the point in lying about how i DIDNT make the money.
8. you always want proof yet you dont have proof -_-;
9. rofl u talking about attitude? have u been reading the other poeple that posted XD

Finally

You dont understand how i make more GAME money than u so you are mad right? use ur head and think the solution is so simple lol and if i actully tried to make gil what i have right now would be nothing. take it easy, its a online game, its suppose to be fun. but seeing u talk like this is pretty funny also haha

o i CAN tell u i made over 75mil from selling fire cluster.

[Legomyeggo]

o i CAN tell u i made over 75mil from selling fire cluster.

o fire clusterly?

[aurik]

I think that's more sad than even having the currency but no rare/ex for your dynamis weapon.

BTW, I don't think anyone here but you really cares about the size of your epenis.

[RikkuYuna]

4. whenever i get a ls somone always end up getting crushed by my ego so rather not join one -_-;

Hi Axile XD~

Did you sell your osode back in high inflation?

[Kechonchuchu]

its sad you're even upgrading
lol @ DRG

ok... option 1

[Demosthenes11]

75 mil off of fire clusters...lets do the math here

at a going rate of 5k constantly, you would need to have accumulated 15,000 fire clusters. This is a conservative estimate, because fire clusters on my server go from 3-5k. Subtract the amount of gil needed to put that in AH, and that puts the number closer to 15,625. Divide that by 7 and you get ~2200. Unless you have had 7 fire clusters on sale everday for 2200 days, I'm going to have to call bullshit.

[Shuvo]

Sucks how you can't seem to get help, I was rooting for you and alma to have the first upgraded relic on Sylph, but it seems Dilandau won. Would have been cool for the NA to beat the JP with their 1year~ dynamis start on us (as all NA were about lvl 20-30 or so when it was released).


Also, wtf is wrong with all you people? I'm talking specifically about the ones who write page long essays about why they think he's rmt, when they don't know anything about him. Dont you guys have anything better to do with your time..... jeez. I have 98 clothcraft, which probably cost 15x what it takes for alchemy 1-100. Why don't you also spend 2hrs writing up an essay explaining how I got the money to level it?

[Krandor]

Why did he say option number 8 before (the none of the above) then a few posts later says he made all his money farming goobbues and clusters?

/huh

[epigram]

Why don't you also spend 2hrs writing up an essay explaining how I got the money to level it?

Maybe because you don't go off as a total dip shit about your phat lewts and mysterious yet completely unproven methods of obtaining the amount of gil you have.

It's like powerleveling goldsmithing to 100 then claim that it's how you got to stage 5 relic two or three months later.

[Heian]

All I have got out of this thread is a DRG with horrible grammar, alot of expensive gear, upgrading LV5 Polearm and who may have RMT'd all of it.

This thread failed at the DRG part.

[GRT]

Also, wtf is wrong with all you people? I'm talking specifically about the ones who write page long essays about why they think he's rmt, when they don't know anything about him. Dont you guys have anything better to do with your time..... jeez. I have 98 clothcraft, which probably cost 15x what it takes for alchemy 1-100. Why don't you also spend 2hrs writing up an essay explaining how I got the money to level it?

Here's another "What's more sad" question:

What's more sad? People who can spend time writing an essay on ANYTHING or people who spend time watching a GAME SKILL go up 0.1 at a time?

Oh don't get upset, be glad you are at least being compared to the essay reply, whatever that loldrg writes doesn't even deserve the honor.

[Boyiee]

Sucks how you can't seem to get help, I was rooting for you and alma to have the first upgraded relic on Sylph, but it seems Dilandau won. Would have been cool for the NA to beat the JP with their 1year~ dynamis start on us (as all NA were about lvl 20-30 or so when it was released).

they did have some advantage but it wasnt a years worth. On our server NA beat JP to first completed weapon.