AV is up on Odin.. apparently out of MP & stopped 2hr-in

[Demosthenes11]

You're missing the point. Remove your head from your ass. Given that he *is* a dragoon, of course he'd have drg 2hr available at whim, whenever the hell he wants to use it. Also, I said that it's a plausible idea, stupid or not, not that "omg thats the answer, that and the fucking ebon panels". I'll never understand why people automatically say something is stupid, just for the hell of it.

Also, "all these" ... This is the first time I've seen it mentioned, which is why I posted it. It may have been said before, but as I said in the previous post, I read all 50something pages of this thread, as well as the other AV threads prior to this one, and have never seen that mentioned. A large postcount makes you neither cool nor omnipotent, so unless you have something marginally useful to say, GTFO.

You're probably one of those stupid fuckers that said "omg brigandish blade is broken, why teh fuck would you steal from him! SE made a broken mob!"

I've heard this theory a good 2-3 times now, and every time its just stupid. Why would the blms be manafonting when they were taking it down from 100-51? They had steady damage, had no reasons to panic, and had plenty of blms to switch out. Whms are not consistantly spamming bene either, along with rdms, wars, plds, sams, etc.
Think about it, it makes 0 sense.

I'm not omnipotent, I'm polypotent, and capable of thinking

Call Wyvern isn't a Dragoon 2 hour anymore.

o freakin rly? Read my post again

[Coren]

Call Wyvern isn't a Dragoon 2 hour anymore. 8)

As noted already. >< Too bad some people can't read before automatically trying to increase their e-peen by shooting down ideas.

call wyvern, which isn't even a 2hr now

One discrepency is that the drg patch wasn't implimented at the time AV was introduced. Even then, he's still a damn drg mob, so of course he'd have the 2hr.

[Not Kuno]

ohshitohshitohshit I think I figured it out.

Since wyverns take no magic damage from AV, maybe you gotta uh... whatever the fuck the new 2hr is called to absorb your wyvern and be all magic immune too!

Farfetched but who knows.

[djzombie]

are they still fighting? I'm not reading through 54 pages... just wondering if they gave up yet.. or succeeded.. or just called gg se...

[Coren]

I've heard this theory a good 2-3 times now, and every time its just stupid. Why would the blms be manafonting when they were taking it down from 100-51? They had steady damage, had no reasons to panic, and had plenty of blms to switch out. Whms are not consistantly spamming bene either, along with rdms, wars, plds, sams, etc.
Think about it, it makes 0 sense.

I'm not omnipotent, I'm polypotent, and capable of thinking

Of course, anything marginally useful that somebody of your caliber and standing didn't come up with is stupid. That's usually how egotistical pricks work.

I'd be willing to bet that nearly everybody unloaded their 2hrs within the first hour of fighting him. He's the hardest mob in the game, why *wouldn't* you unload with everything you had? Given there were something like 100+ people beating on him over the timeframe he was out, he'd have quite a pool of 2hrs to use. I never said he had to use them instantly upon them being used on him. What I think is funny is that until he's popped again, or until somebody that was *there* can say this is bullshit, why even bother argueing?

[Coren]

ohshitohshitohshit I think I figured it out.

Since wyverns take no magic damage from AV, maybe you gotta uh... whatever the fuck the new 2hr is called to absorb your wyvern and be all magic immune too!

Farfetched but who knows.

I call bullshit, loldrg. No sane drg would go to sea to lose 28375923 xp, they'd go back to lvl 3 automatically, and be stuck there permanently.

[Demosthenes11]

I've heard this theory a good 2-3 times now, and every time its just stupid. Why would the blms be manafonting when they were taking it down from 100-51? They had steady damage, had no reasons to panic, and had plenty of blms to switch out. Whms are not consistantly spamming bene either, along with rdms, wars, plds, sams, etc.
Think about it, it makes 0 sense.

I'm not omnipotent, I'm polypotent, and capable of thinking

Of course, anything marginally useful that somebody of your caliber and standing didn't come up with is stupid. That's usually how egotistical pricks work.

I'd be willing to bet that nearly everybody unloaded their 2hrs within the first hour of fighting him. He's the hardest mob in the game, why *wouldn't* you unload with everything you had? Given there were something like 100+ people beating on him over the timeframe he was out, he'd have quite a pool of 2hrs to use. I never said he had to use them instantly upon them being used on him. What I think is funny is that until he's popped again, or until somebody that was *there* can say this is bullshit, why even bother argueing?

I'm a prick now?
It's POSSIBLE, but really highly unlikely. It's also possible to remove his regen you have to touch the ebon panels at exactly 0:00 darksday 100% full moon with a jailor weapon equiped

Is there any indication of AV being a drg other than its weapon as well?

[Coren]

I'm a prick now?
It's POSSIBLE, but really highly unlikely. It's also possible to remove his regen you have to touch the ebon panels at exactly 0:00 darksday 100% full moon with a jailor weapon equiped

Is there any indication of AV being a drg other than its weapon as well?

Exactly what I said, possible, not probable, but it's still an idea worth tossing out to the next group that tries. Given that he uses a spear and uses some variants on jump attacks, and has 28359023 wyverns all the time (yes I know, using part of an argument to sustain that argument is bad), it's a fairly good bet that he's a loldrg. It would be fitting, given how bad their rep has been, and how much SE seemed to like the job... they're getting their revenge.

[Tekki]

this thread alone now has more pages to it then total pages combined of threads in the FFXI Talk section of the boards

[Avelain]

had no reasons to panic

i wouldn't panic either....

Why would the blms be manafonting when they were taking it down from 100-51?

If you were fighting the hardest mob in the game, that could wipe your linkshell in an instant, and you did not attempt to two hour....

....yeah

[Demosthenes11]

i wouldn't panic either....

Quote:
Why would the blms be manafonting when they were taking it down from 100-51?


If you were fighting the hardest mob in the game, that could wipe your linkshell in an instant, and you did not attempt to two hour....

....yeah

Notice that was after he used a 2hour, your agrument fails

[Shorty]

I have this 10min video of AV popping and some of you have probaly seen it as well, it has no sound but....while AV was out slaughtering everyone I noticed that at certian instances he would put his polearm back in, and take it back out.

When he puts his polearm away does he do H2H dmg? Possibly lower dmg from H2Hing you than with his lance, or maybe can use different abilitys with his polearm being put away/polearm being out?

[Coren]

I have this 10min video of AV popping and some of you have probaly seen it as well, it has no sound but....while AV was out slaughtering everyone I noticed that at certian instances he would put his polearm back in, and take it back out.

When he puts his polearm away does he do H2H dmg? Possibly lower dmg from H2Hing you than with his lance, or maybe can use different abilitys with his polearm being put away/polearm being out?

Rawr my postcount is higher than yours, therefor because I didn't think of that myself, your idea is stupid!

To actually reply: I didn't notice that. Was he just doing it as people would agro and wipe? Aerns don't typically have weapons out, but when somebody pokes them, the weapons'll pop out. I didn't watch the video but once, and most of it was laughing as the carnage, not paying attention to details.

[supaswimma]

since he gained red bracelets around 60 was it? maybe it resets all his 2 hours, and does them in sets of two, and then again aat 20 or 30% get the 2 hours back, and do them in sets of 3

inv->bene->mijin gakure


havent heard that one yet, yey

[Avelain]

Notice that was after he used a 2hour, your agrument fails

You were arguing that someone's idea was stupid, then you went on to say there was no reason to panic, and no one anywhere was using two hours. I said there was complete reason to panic, and that not using your two hour would be stupid. How does my argument "fail" because AV used a two hour?

[Coren]

Notice that was after he used a 2hour, your agrument fails

You were arguing that someone's idea was stupid, then you went on to say there was no reason to panic, and no one anywhere was using two hours. I said there was complete reason to panic, and that not using your two hour would be stupid. How does my argument "fail" because AV used a two hour?

We already established that he's a troll and a prick, he'll say anythign just to not lose face when somebody completely owns him on an anonymous internet forum. Just wait, he'll start playing "return to alla" and "GTFO" cards soon, as a last resort.

And get it right, its an *agrument*.

[Ladyeve]

You guys had him benediction several other times around like 85% ish? These times, what % exactly was he at, and how much did he benedict?

It did once at that /sigh 52% , at 85% 88%, at 87%, 97%, 98%, 72% (/sigh our 2nd lowest from the first one.. that I saw while being in the alliance before using all of my MP.) It was random percentages that it did benediction. I'm starting to hate even my own 75 whm -_-;.

Idea: Is it possible that AV only has 2hrs (other than call wyvern, which isn't even a 2hr now) that are used by the alliance that is fighting him? I've read this entire 50something page thread, and every other AV thread, and I don't think I've seen this mentioned.

That might explain why a mob with instacast-everything uses chainspell, for example. Also might explain why he quit using 2hrs after a certain point: everybody used theirs against him.

The only 2hr anyone in the alliance has every done was Manafont. No one else in the Linkshell that was in the main alliance used 2hr, well maybe Soul Voice once but it was still doing tons of other 2hrs =T.

Lylie mentioned about the combination order of the 2hr abilities. Invincible > Benediction has never changed. It only added Mijin Gakure a few times (which dealt over 4k dmg..). Manafont & Chainspell, Manafont & Perfect Dodge, Mighty Strikes & Hundred Fists, Meikyo Shisui & Eagle Eye Shot (muahah AV missed me!) , Soul Voice & Familiar, Blood Weapon & something, Familiar & Astral Flow. Astral Flow was combined with something else too but I forgot to write that down. Blood Weapon wasn't used too much though so I didn't really catch on :/ I was more about staying alive running away whenever I saw Manafont ;[.

Someone else in the thread somewhere mentioned about trying to "steal" from him as in an attempt to see if you can steal weapon/item off him. I think we tried that at the very end when AV was heading back to the spot but I think nothing was done to it? I'm not sure sorry.

Demosthenes11 mentioned why would BLMs use Manafont when we were taking it from 100%-51%. We used it because whenever we saw Call Wyvern from AV, we were doing big nukes such as: Thundaga 3, Blizzaga 3, ga spells take loads of mp as it is, and since the ability was up, why not use it? We had to take out the wynavs fast, since they were able to cast 3 Firaga 3s on us blms . The faster we can kill the wynvas the better advantage we will have against the wynvas in countering us. Not everyone used their 2hr Manafont though, because you have to understand if someone in the alliance used 2hr to trigger AV's abilities, then tell me why it used Invincible > Benediction or any of the other combinations when no one in the alliance had done so? You also mentioned ebon panel and I think my ls member Auronku had already mentioned we tried it. Come on people, lets read carefully . Besides, manafont allows you do use spells when you have no mp, so why not do more damage?

Djzombie mentioned if we were still fighting it. No, it had despawned last night -_-;.

Shorty mentioned about AV changing weapons. Yes, Auronku had noticed that about AV too. We already established that he was probably changing his jobs to try and attack us. I truly believe AV had some type of forms that he changes to because his benediction on HP was ridiculous. At one point his benediction regened 30k hp, sometimes 17k at random percentages.. the math just somehow doesn't add up very well.

Supadupa I'm going to hurt you galka, raise 1 you can have this!!!!!

[Coren]

Theory disproved, thanks.
(it's amazing how easy it is when somebody was actually there).

[Demosthenes11]

Once again, why would the blms have any reason to panic taking AV down from 100-51 if AV was not using any 2hours or magic?

I said that arguement fails because I said the blms did not use 2hours before he began 2houring again.

[Coren]

Once again, why would the blms have any reason to panic taking AV down from 100-51 if AV was not using any 2hours or magic?

I said that arguement fails because I said the blms did not use 2hours before he began 2houring again.

Is there a "quit being the dead horse" card?