AV is up on Odin.. apparently out of MP & stopped 2hr-in

[Litoriceboi]

again................ you dont know if the developers intended it to be killed this way that is what im fucking saying. layoneil i didnt fucking say they didnt gain any personal advantage from doing that dont fucking put words in my mouth, then again ppl dont gain an advantage with the terrain and DL also huh...



lol nynja OMG RANGED ATTACKS. POINT IS HE COULD STILL CAST SPELLS AND FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING ATTACK. If this was such a great exploit why the fuck did it take them 30 hours to get it to around 50%? You and all the other wonderful assclowns screaming exploit do NOT know if the developers intended it to be killed that way. Get over yourselfs and the elitist bullshit know-it-all attitude that you fuckers have. i dont support abortion but in your case nynja i think you mother should have had one

Are you seriously FUCKING dumb?

[NynJa]

again................ you dont know if the developers intended it to be killed this way that is what im fucking saying. layoneil i didnt fucking say they didnt gain any personal advantage from doing that dont fucking put words in my mouth, then again ppl dont gain an advantage with the terrain and DL also huh...

Northern Al'Taieu was not open when AV was released. Northern Al'Taieu was not meant to be used to kill AV, plain and fucking simple.

For fucks sake, shut the fuck up, please.

[anoush]

OMG LOL 61

[rahvin]

again................ you dont know if the developers intended it to be killed this way that is what im fucking saying. layoneil i didnt fucking say they didnt gain any personal advantage from doing that dont fucking put words in my mouth, then again ppl dont gain an advantage with the terrain and DL also huh...

Northern Al'Taieu was not open when AV was released. Northern Al'Taieu was not meant to be used to kill AV, plain and fucking simple.

For fucks sake, shut the fuck up, please.

and again if it was an exploit the gm when called would have told them to change how they fought av plain and simple.

[layoneil]

Holy shit I dont know why people are going nuts over this. THEY DIDN'T WIN. So that OMGEXPLOIT!!1111oneoenone stuff doesn't count for shit if it doesn't even work.

Dang I was just about to post the same thing... lol @ all these idiots crying about an exploit that didn't even get a win... not only that but these crybabies act like it even affected them any. AV owning a bunch of people hiding behind a wall caused you grief? Goddamn

i'm not complaining about them using the exploit, i think it's cool they used it. i think it would've been cooler if they would've won using and giving SE a big FU that they killed a mob that is disgustingly broken.

i'm yelling at the stupid f'n retards that think this is the legitamite designed way that it's meant to be done. the stupid morons that think SE shouldn't fix this mob since we are suppose to continue using this "legit strat" and build on top of it.

"this is the way it was designed", so linkshells that want to kill AV should build around nothing but BLMs so they can nuke over a wall.

GTFO, fix the damn mob, let us tank it and use the other 14 jobs in the game some way, some how, in the alliance.

[Eternus]

To be fair I think AV was planned to be unkillable. Instantly getting back 46k HP is a good indicator that nobody is supposed to be able to kill it. Seriously does SE want it to be a server wide event every time a LS pops AV? This is their way of "uniting the linkshells". Seriously this mob is so broken it is retarded. If anyone uses terrain or any other exploit to kill AV, then I am all for it. The mob is broken plain and simple, perfectly fine if someone uses another broken part of FFXI to counter it.

[layoneil]

The mob is broken plain and simple, perfectly fine if someone uses another broken part of FFXI to counter it.

exactly, it's the people that say either thing isn't broken that needs to check themselves.

[Cautery]

Give to AV Draw-In! Give to AV Draw-In! Give to AV Draw-In!

All of you guys who are starting a drama against LB cause "they did it only cause they used a glitch" are really retards! They did as 1st, they had an fantastic idea and they used it and now they are the only and the firsto LS who took AV down more than 98%.

Why everyone want to have the better e.penis?

[Zigrah]

Sometimes I wonder if maybe they just intended for it to be called for help on and mass slaughtered that way and something cool will happen on the server when it dies. I mean it tok 7 jailers to bring it down before, maybe that's the hint or something.

I mean it's an impossible mob no matter how you look at it, maybe it's broken but maybe SE is laughing at us and it has nothing to do about drops. I know I am reaching here but in some other games I used to play it wasn't such a farfetched idea to have an NM that almost the entire server had to band together to take out. Of course that game had a different looting system though, but to me it was never about the loot... just the point of seeing it die and the sense of accomplishment it gave. Of course it sort of isn't fair to the people who work so hard to pop it, I just find it all so strange.

I'm just thinking out loud though, but I think the next group to try it if they don't succeed should just CFH on it and try killing it with 100 or more people going at it at once... just to see it dead. I mean if you were going to give up anyways.

[Chreman]

As retarded as it is, it's still a theory that hasn't been disproven, while AV was up for nearly 30 hours, did any other LS decide to pop a jailor?

[NynJa]

again................ you dont know if the developers intended it to be killed this way that is what im fucking saying. layoneil i didnt fucking say they didnt gain any personal advantage from doing that dont fucking put words in my mouth, then again ppl dont gain an advantage with the terrain and DL also huh...

Northern Al'Taieu was not open when AV was released. Northern Al'Taieu was not meant to be used to kill AV, plain and fucking simple.

For fucks sake, shut the fuck up, please.

and again if it was an exploit the gm when called would have told them to change how they fought av plain and simple.

or GM Bufu said "well its gonna bene anyways. Let these retards throw 40k xp away so I can get a good laugh when it bene's for 50k hp".

[Tahngarthor]

Seeing this, I think like 200 ppl should get behind that wall and nuke him down before he can bene with CFH :D

[Ashira]

As retarded as it is, it's still a theory that hasn't been disproven, while AV was up for nearly 30 hours, did any other LS decide to pop a jailor?

I think most people were too busy watching the fight.

I know one friend with his sea LS was heading up to pop a Jailer, but they got distracted... and I don't remember if he said they actually ended up going to do so or not.

[Porkypig]

LS that got AV to 85% - leetsauce

People that called GM to "fix" exploit - fagsauce

Everyone posting OT shit in AV thread - nubsauce

That is all.

[rahvin]

again................ you dont know if the developers intended it to be killed this way that is what im fucking saying. layoneil i didnt fucking say they didnt gain any personal advantage from doing that dont fucking put words in my mouth, then again ppl dont gain an advantage with the terrain and DL also huh...

Northern Al'Taieu was not open when AV was released. Northern Al'Taieu was not meant to be used to kill AV, plain and fucking simple.

For fucks sake, shut the fuck up, please.

and again if it was an exploit the gm when called would have told them to change how they fought av plain and simple.

or GM Bufu said "well its gonna bene anyways. Let these retards throw 40k xp away so I can get a good laugh when it bene's for 50k hp".

sad part is i cant argue that

[Porkypig]

LS that got AV to 52% - leetsauce

People that called GM to "fix" exploit and everyone agreeing with it - fagsauce

Everyone posting OT shit in AV thread plus the dumbass who told Ondori to stop posting(lol) - nubsauce

That is all.

Fixed

[Daahan]

I'm really surprised how most people are boiling their brains over some people calling this an exploit. It really is an exploit. It has been mentioned over 10 times in this thread that Northern Al'Taieu was inaccessible during the time that AV was able to be popped.

Baby Language: AV was able to be popped BEFORE THIS EXPLOIT WAS AVAILABLE. For those mentioning that "Oh maybe the wall was intended to be used" should now promptly stop trying to justify that claim.

People saying that using the ridges in Xarcabard to fight DL is an exploit are also wrong. The difference there is that, DL can actually run around those ridges to get up to you and KICK THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF YOU. Done done and done with that matter.

Wafik, I love you from the bottom of my heart, but I don't understand why you were trying to use RDM/DRK CS+Stun as an example for exploit. It's a legitamite system implemented in to the game. It's not an exploit or glitch.

I really don't care whether or not LB used an exploit. The fact of the matter is, whether you want to call it cheating or not, they did exploit a glitch in the game. We know this because (refer to the top of post) Northern Al'Taieu access did not exist at the time AV was poppable.

There are certain people who follow a "Straight down the Road" principle of doing things in the game. This means that people want to do things the way they were meant to be done. These are people like Janice. If you guys think Janice believes that LB is a bunch of losers because they used an exploit, rather then going "Straight down the Road" then I recommend you grab a magnifying glass and reread his threads.

Then there are people who do things "By Any Means Neccesary." That's what LB did. Using a minor glitch to gimp AV was doing something "By Any Means Neccesary."

Now I know that although I was very fair (or at least tried to) in my post. Some idiotic 7th graders are still going to post and say "Like dude, you little bitch why you gotta hate LB yo!? mad props to them mad props stfu because you think they cheated and you need a vagina-sand cleaner!"

BUT, I know the very few of you out there who actually read posts and know how to discern very simple comments and statements from one another will understand what I'm trying to say.

[oOrfeOo]

It's possible to use the "wall-tactic" without involving northern Al'taieu....

Just have a look at the Al'taieu map. It's not that hard to find.

[RustyMetal]

I actuly wish they kill him. No matter how much cheating they used.

think about it, AV is a BOKREN monster, no matter what anyone things. He is either bugged or is not intended to be killed yet.

So what would killing him do..
A) Maybe he drops nothing (LOLOLOLOL I WOULD LOVE THIS)
B) Maybe he drops some 1337 GM hax items.
C) Crash the server because AV is part of something much bigger
Wish it was A, that would make my day.

[Briste]

If this was such a great exploit why the fuck did it take them 30 hours to get it to around 50%?

Somewhere around page like 30 (i'm not going back to quote) they said it took like 30-45 mins to get them from 100-51%...it took them 25+hours of normal ideas to find the spot. If you ask me, 30-45 mins getting from 100-51% with the wall and 25+ hours getting from 100%-96ish without is a big enough difference to constitute an "exploit" in the system.

It is a great exploit in order to do damage considering it couldn't be touched before, and if they had found a way to disable/stun it's benediction, it would have been good enough for the win. Would I use the exploit considering it's a broken mob? Absolutely. Do I think that SE is going to keep this a viable option? No. Why isn't SE going to allow it to continue?

Q: I found a special location where I can fight monsters without taking any damage from them.
A: f you find such a location, please refrain from fighting monsters there. To report this location to us, select the Service & Support page from the PlayOnline Viewer main menu, then select "Support," "E-mail Support," then "Comments & Suggestions." Please be aware that exploiting bugs for personal advantage during the game is not permitted and is considered to be inappropriate behavior.

Bottom line is it is a good exploit for the mob and worked better than anything that has been thought of or tried to damage AV. I don't know how you can argue this wasn't a successful exploit.