Shadow Mantle Proc Rate?

[Raineer]

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As for ring vs mantle I never got to see the shadow ring in action since the war who got it never got on to do anything afterwards and only came back for 2 days after a few months of being absent to cuss out someone in my ls and then sell his account...

needmore drama, the thread was dying

[Zumi]

I have shadow mantle its between 5-10% sometimes it seems to go off a lot more then other times. It is probably the best back item for pld for damage reduction.

I seen ring in action on like taimat and fafnir. It can block tiamats fireballs in the air, inferno blast, touch down, firega3 at about 10%, pertty similar to the mantle. On fafnir it can block wing.

[Dein]

Eh, I might as well since the guy I'm talking about has dissapeared for the most part. He was an old time sac holder in a LS I used to be in that broke up recently that started playing again a couple of months after I got my account back via the Return Home campaign. My old ls started doing outlands with another group every week near the middle of last year and he did attend a couple of xarcabard runs with this joint group but he wasn't present for our first 3 DL kills or so but came back the night of our 4th DL win and since we got both a mantle and ring from him that night one person from each LS in the joint group was allowed to lot an item. Well he got the ring out of this despite ninja's from our ls being present that contributed their fair share to the wins.

Everyone thought that with this at least he'd have a reason to start playing more but as far as I can remember he vanished again and was rarely on for several months again. Since he vanished for so long our shell leader decided to remove this guy's access to the officer's forum on the linkshell site and that resulted in him logging on one night and cussing the hell out of another old sac holder of the ls for being a power hungry nazi or some bs along those lines in a drunken rage. He lost his sac right after that and refused to take back anything he said while refusing to give back items like his Osode and then posted on our forums a little later that he sold his account for 3000$ or so to keep him from ever coming back. The guy who bought his acct proceeded to sell all of this guy's stuff that he could for lower than usual prices. Not even sure if they kept the character after as I haven't done a /sea all of the guy's name for a month now.

[Lordwafik]

Lesson learnt : Dont give really rare impossible to get items to someone who's on the verge of quitting in the hope it'll make them come back.

If someone's quitting, they're quitting.

[Razz]

Lesson learnt : Dont give really rare impossible to get items to someone who's on the verge of quitting in the hope it'll make them come back.

If someone's quitting, they're quitting.

Nobody quits FFXI...nobody

[Aerandir]

Find a better game (WoW) and it's easy to quit.

This is not an encouragement ot start arguing wow vs. ffxi

[Razz]

Find a better game (WoW) and it's easy to quit.

This is not an encouragement ot start arguing wow vs. ffxi

WoW wasn't enough for me to quit FFXI lol

my statement still stands.

[Aerandir]

So because YOU didn't quit your statement of "Nobody quits FFXI...nobody" stands? ok

[mdn]

it could have been worse, your ls could have given the ring to a paladin who you were then forced to tank tiamat with solely so that he could use his ring (and get 2-shotted on the ground) and the he could quit the game 2 days later!

moral of the thread: give your ninjas gear

[Jawas]

Ive had both shadow items for over 6 months almost a year on the mantle. The ring is definately better. The reason being, most melee hits can not one shot you. But when you take 0 damage from Burst, Stonaga 5000, and various AOEs it does save your life.

As far as giving Ninjas your gear, we rarely use Ninjas or /nin for anything, PLD and War/whm ftw.

[Genosync]

An experienced PLD/NIN can tank every mob in the game.

Almost.

[Jawas]

An experienced PLD/NIN can tank every mob in the game.

Almost.

W/e works,
I find it funny that PLD/NIN does not exsist on Bismarck. The main HNMLSs have always used a mix of PLDs and than on the attack up NM like sky stuff, we normally use blinkers. I know in IRON we tried nin on stuff like Tiamat and Jimmy and we found that a pld flanked by 2 war/whms in out tank pt is an awesome hate lock and very rarely do we have any deaths.

[layoneil]

did WAR/WHM exist before or after Gjallahorn?

[Lockecole]

3PLD/NINs or 2PLD/NINs + 1NIN/WAR is probably the most amazing setup for Tiamat. We've had many no death, no hate loss Tiamats to the point where its almost fullproof. Hate is normally bouncing to the point where even if you take a hit, you'll lose hate before its too late.

[Jawas]

did WAR/WHM exist before or after Gjallahorn?

We had the strat in use before the Gjallahorn, after we got the horn it made the good idea invincible.

We always use the strat if Tredvolt is around or not. When we have the relic our MP is always full, if we dont have the relic than were always at 75% MP. I just find it funny that somer servers do this and others do something completely different. Again w/e works is cool, I am in no way saying pld/nin doesnt work, we just never went that route.

[Jawas]

3PLD/NINs or 2PLD/NINs + 1NIN/WAR is probably the most amazing setup for Tiamat. We've had many no death, no hate loss Tiamats to the point where its almost fullproof. Hate is normally bouncing to the point where even if you take a hit, you'll lose hate before its too late.

Our tank pt is PLD/WAR WAR/WHM X2, BRD/WHM, RDM/SNM, WHM/SNM.

With this set up we need NO outside healing. We had a situation the 1st time we tried the Wyrm KS99 and with this PT we were able to hold the wyrm without any problems until the rest of the alliance recovered from dying. With the 2 sets of summoner blinks to cover MS, it pretty much is a lock.

[Dein]

I definantly want to give the pld + warx2 setup for wyrms a try but everyone would rather have a nin tanking the wyrms with a pld/nin as a backup. I tried my hand with that and lasted 50% of my first wyrm fight but it wasn't as interesting as straight up tanking can be.