So Bismarck gets its taste of AV right now...

[royze]

at first when bahamut was released, the cap lvl was 50...

shit loads of people trying to kill it...right and left...no one could damage it but pld's spirits within..

people thought it was impossible to kill it then after they raised the lvl cap..well if u camp behemoth u know how easy it is...

im not saying theyre going to raise lv cap, but rather they might add something to make it killable

just give it some time, im sure people would love to be the first to kill it...but i bet you a year from now AV will be the new kirin..

or thats what i hope

[othellojr]

at first when bahamut was released, the cap lvl was 50...

shit loads of people trying to kill it...right and left...no one could damage it but pld's spirits within..

people thought it was impossible to kill it then after they raised the lvl cap..well if u camp behemoth u know how easy it is...

im not saying theyre going to raise lv cap, but rather they might add something to make it killable

just give it some time, im sure people would love to be the first to kill it...but i bet you a year from now AV will be the new kirin..

or thats what i hope

So that means a year from now, sea will be infested with gilfarmers and AV is going to be poped constantly by them and maybe if you piss them off, they may try to ks it from you? Damn, sea is going to suck a year from now, oh wait, it already does

[aurik]

at first when bahamut was released, the cap lvl was 50...

shit loads of people trying to kill it...right and left...no one could damage it but pld's spirits within..

people thought it was impossible to kill it then after they raised the lvl cap..well if u camp behemoth u know how easy it is...

im not saying theyre going to raise lv cap, but rather they might add something to make it killable

just give it some time, im sure people would love to be the first to kill it...but i bet you a year from now AV will be the new kirin..

or thats what i hope

Spirits within is 55

[loial]

Bahamut was released at 50? I might have missed that.

I don't think we will see Sea turn into Sky. There isn't much for gilfarmers to do besides Limbus. And that might not even be a horrible thing. They might flood the market with ancient beastcoins and drag the prices down a little.

I would say that when sky came out, I'm sure the initial LSs to go face to face with the gods and kirin were probably wiped horribly. Sure, we can laugh at it now since smart players with better gear handle these mobs with ease (and less people).

Not too long ago, "Vrtra is impossible to kill." But, people found ways to do it. I'm not putting AV in the same category as those other mobs. He might not ever reach "farm status" where a single alliance could kill him. But, the way will be found and this 84 page thing on Odin will become a mere footnote.

[layoneil]

i think he meant Behemoth.

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love all these people saying it's doable, if you're not actively farming pop items for Jailers as you're posting, your opinion doesn't count for much.

good analogy with Behemoth and Fafnir (not). those mobs sat there forever until people figured out how to kill them.

there was also nothing better to do at the time when you're at the level cap but to fight them and try to kill them. merits didn't exist until after Nidhogg was easy for some linkshells.

On that note, it's pretty apparent LB did turn off his 2hr.

just because it stopped 2-houring doesn't mean they turned it off. people can die without being killed, some things just happen. until someone can say what they "did" to turn it off, it's not really apparent to me.

[Boyiee]

just because it stopped 2-houring doesn't mean they turned it off. people can die without being killed, some things just happen. until someone can say what they "did" to turn it off, it's not really apparent to me.

"The Absence of Evidence, is not the Evidence of absence."

"There are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there are also unknown unknowns which are things we don't know that we don't know!"

[DrObvious]

Remember that time when people were saying there must be some trick to Jailer of Love and there wasn't?

[Rocl]

Remember that time when people were saying there must be some trick to Jailer of Love and there wasn't?

And then people killed it with 80 people ( i think that's around the number)?

Then they nerfed it later on and you can kill it with 24 now?

[Veli]

Iwonder why people waste items to pop JOL if they aint gonna fight AV. Might as well just wait til AV is dead find out how to kill and have a load of items to pop him with.

[Lordwafik]

Iwonder why people waste items to pop JOL if they aint gonna fight AV. Might as well just wait til AV is dead find out how to kill and have a load of items to pop him with.

Because waiting for someone else to do your dirty work isnt the way to beat JoL's lovechild.

[Tom Chambers]

On that note, it's pretty apparent LB did turn off his 2hr.

just because it stopped 2-houring doesn't mean they turned it off. people can die without being killed, some things just happen. until someone can say what they "did" to turn it off, it's not really apparent to me.

I've fought AV. For roughly 45 minutes to an hour, he did no less than 6 or 7 SPs. But he didn't SP once from 100% to 60% and we're questioning if his two hours were turned off?

[layoneil]

For roughly 45 minutes to an hour, he did no less than 6 or 7 SPs. But he didn't SP once from 100% to 60% and we're questioning if his two hours were turned off?

i'm questioning if it turned off as a reaction to a player's action or if it turned off as a reaction to time or if it turned of to a glitch.

if it's the first thing, i'm questioning what it is, as is everyone else.

[aurik]

tbh sounds like AV is bugged to me...you did something that fkd up his state machine so he didn't use 2hrs or spells. When he put the bracelets on he reset that state and ...benediction.

[Demosthenes11]

tbh sounds like AV is bugged to me...you did something that fkd up his state machine so he didn't use 2hrs or spells. When he put the bracelets on he reset that state and ...benediction.

No, sounds like someone is doing something correctly, and you have to repeat/ do something else once he puts the bracelets on

Glitch wouldn't make any sense if he started 2houring again after bracelets

[Lordwafik]

No, sounds like someone is doing something correctly, and you have to repeat/ do something else once he puts the bracelets on

Glitch wouldn't make any sense if he started 2houring again after bracelets

Agreed with this.

[Spencehoe]

just because it stopped 2-houring doesn't mean they turned it off. people can die without being killed, some things just happen. until someone can say what they "did" to turn it off, it's not really apparent to me.

"The Absence of Evidence, is not the Evidence of absence."

"There are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there are also unknown unknowns which are things we don't know that we don't know!"

Win

Boondocks is for yes.

[Veli]

Iwonder why people waste items to pop JOL if they aint gonna fight AV. Might as well just wait til AV is dead find out how to kill and have a load of items to pop him with.

Because waiting for someone else to do your dirty work isnt the way to beat JoL's lovechild.

Lol and you damn sure aint gonna beat JoL's lovechild if you dont fight him. So why pop joL unless you ready to fight AV.

[Reality]

surprised nobody has asked this, at least i haven't seen it asked

why does AV only pop 'sometimes' after JOL is defeated?

that doesn't make much sense

[Viq]

surprised nobody has asked this, at least i haven't seen it asked

why does AV only pop 'sometimes' after JOL is defeated?

that doesn't make much sense

Because sea is garbage

[Veli]

surprised nobody has asked this, at least i haven't seen it asked

why does AV only pop 'sometimes' after JOL is defeated?

that doesn't make much sense

lol thats a question somebody should of asked development team during the fair thing they had. I would like to see how SE explains his pop.