Relic 3->4

[aurik]

Yep. Its somewhere on KI dynamis forum I think.

Found it amidst a pile of typical relic drama:
http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=p ... 19#1719419

"Edit: no - perpetuation, and for + magic damage i think that not but i didnt ask."

No perp cut and no info on magic damage, but I'd assume no hidden mab either.

[Nagamaki]

That post on KI isn't exactly what I'd call proof, especially if its second hand info. Mind you its still pretty likely that those effects (mab, -perp) don't exist but there probably is much more conclusive proof floating around.

On the lv4 delay, for mine 81 hours went by between trade in and getting Caestus, I was sleeping from the 74th to the 81st though. I got it off the goblin at 10:10 AM eastern time (right after JP midnight day switch) but if people got it after 80 hours without a 4th JP midnight passing, that would mean its just a set number of hours between 74 and 80.

[draxyl]

Just a note, blau doche on asura is *extremely* hard to come by, and if you did find one it would probably cost somewhere between 70-120m or so - crazy range since it never sells. Yes, a dynamis dagger upgrade costs more, but I don't hink wafik is concerned about that.

I think Totentatz is broken, the damn dagger *never* drops, I've seen one drop in about 20 tries. Maybe we need to start bringing some TH2/3/4 to help out.

[Lordwafik]

I'm actually surprised you didn't pick Axe to be your Relic of choice Wafik, seeing as BST is your true love. Nonetheless, Congratulations!

Oh I still consider it even now >_> Multijobbers will never be happy with 1 weapon, but as awesome as it would be to have the axe, no LS would ever let me gear up my BST how I would like it (adaman hauberk, byakko haidate, over a WAR? even if it's a new WAR? lol prz dont be serious!), so if I get the axe , I wont have all the other goodies to make it worthwhile, also I highly doubt anyone is gonna say "Yes, come to ______ as BST" , and then say "Lol no, not in main, charm the ______'s if we get aggro please".

Nynja grats on batardeau! That's sexy, post screens when you get them of Mercy Stroke's dmg.

And yeah, the thread wasnt the only thread about the topic, there was another one showing that there was no -perp cost on the staff whatsoever, the only time the smn got his MP back was using the WS, which gave him a hidden refresh that could be stacked with refresh.

About magic attack bonus, nobody knows, but seeing how my blm is paper thin, and cant melee without being raped, and I have no intention to level summoner ever, Im not going tto spend my currencies on that, i'll stick with something i'll actually use once in a while.

[Raineer]

Just a note, blau doche on asura is *extremely* hard to come by, and if you did find one it would probably cost somewhere between 70-120m or so - crazy range since it never sells. Yes, a dynamis dagger upgrade costs more, but I don't hink wafik is concerned about that.

I think Totentatz is broken, the damn dagger *never* drops, I've seen one drop in about 20 tries. Maybe we need to start bringing some TH2/3/4 to help out.

wow wtf, they dropped under 12m on Siren...

[Angelsin]

Just a note, blau doche on asura is *extremely* hard to come by, and if you did find one it would probably cost somewhere between 70-120m or so - crazy range since it never sells. Yes, a dynamis dagger upgrade costs more, but I don't hink wafik is concerned about that.

I think Totentatz is broken, the damn dagger *never* drops, I've seen one drop in about 20 tries. Maybe we need to start bringing some TH2/3/4 to help out.

wow wtf, they dropped under 12m on Siren...

Yeah there's lots of blau's flying around on Siren. Dynamis Coins are still 5M+ per 100 though

[NynJa]

Just a note, blau doche on asura is *extremely* hard to come by, and if you did find one it would probably cost somewhere between 70-120m or so - crazy range since it never sells. Yes, a dynamis dagger upgrade costs more, but I don't hink wafik is concerned about that.

I think Totentatz is broken, the damn dagger *never* drops, I've seen one drop in about 20 tries. Maybe we need to start bringing some TH2/3/4 to help out.

wow wtf, they dropped under 12m on Siren...

Yeah there's lots of blau's flying around on Siren. Dynamis Coins are still 5M+ per 100 though

Bynes = 5m a piece
Shells = 6m a piece if you're lucky, usually 7m
Coins = 8m a piece

[aurik]

Thats weird, coins and byne are about the same price here on Asura, and shells are in much higher demand.

[Lordwafik]

asurans dont discriminate, everything is for the same price of "out of a realistic range" 80-150k per coin.

[divisortheory]

It's all the same price on Valefor. Usually 4 mil for everything in bazaars, but if you catch people after dynamis runs you can get 3.5 mil for 100s

[NynJa]

Mercy Stroke stacked with SA or TA seems to do around 600-800 dmg on the beastmen, 350-500 on fomors.


The WS for some reason is pretty unaccurate. I was getting a bunch of 10-11% returns even when I WS'ed in my accuracy gear. I even managed to pull this off when the mob turned

That was in accuracy gear as well.



Most I got was a 12% return (3 hit WS + offhand), but the WS animation clearly looks like 4 hits.

[Lordwafik]

How on par is that with DE on Dynamis mobs? Grats neenjar btw :D

Currently I sit on :

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2038/coincount4ct.jpg

So will be a while before I get the rest of my L.jade, aswell as the attestation which seems to be Horn everytime /sigh. Then we can see how well a RDM's mercy stroke is.


Next time you do it, try mercy stroke without SATA, I remember the DRK who got his lvl4 a while ago on JP forums saying, SA had no affect on his WS at all, and it ignored mob shadows, however lv4 and lv5 could be different.

[Zigma]

Mercy Stroke stacked with SA or TA seems to do around 600-800 dmg on the beastmen, 350-500 on fomors.


The WS for some reason is pretty unaccurate. I was getting a bunch of 10-11% returns even when I WS'ed in my accuracy gear. I even managed to pull this off when the mob turned

That was in accuracy gear as well.



Most I got was a 12% return (3 hit WS + offhand), but the WS animation clearly looks like 4 hits.

and here i though, you was a mithra.

[NynJa]

it seems to roughly the same dmg as a single-stacked DE on dynamis mobs. I havent had a chance to try out stacked SA + TA, which could affect dmg nicely, seeing as how a SATA shark and a SA/TA shark are two completely different WS's.

An unstacked Mercy Stroke is pretty shitty, was doing like 50-150, I dont exactly remember.




sorry zigma, I'm hume

[NynJa]

ya ok, so you remember that gif I posted ??

I wasnt missing Mercy Stroke hits, its an actual 1 hit WS. I'm playing with it now in windurst on the birdies, and I'm averaging around 900-1050 without food.

without SA I do around 250-350 on the yags.



Of course this is excellent news for thieves, since the biggest quim with endgame dagger WS's is that they are all multi hit (DE=5, SB=2, Evis=5).

[Sefier]

you forgot viper bite :/

[Lockecole]

you forgot viper bite :/

Viper Bite is used in endgame?

[Volken]

ya ok, so you remember that gif I posted ??

I wasnt missing Mercy Stroke hits, its an actual 1 hit WS. I'm playing with it now in windurst on the birdies, and I'm averaging around 900-1050 without food.

without SA I do around 250-350 on the yags.



Of course this is excellent news for thieves, since the biggest quim with endgame dagger WS's is that they are all multi hit (DE=5, SB=2, Evis=5).

You have a KI stalker!

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=p ... 2d8#bottom

[Lordwafik]

ya ok, so you remember that gif I posted ??

I wasnt missing Mercy Stroke hits, its an actual 1 hit WS. I'm playing with it now in windurst on the birdies, and I'm averaging around 900-1050 without food.

without SA I do around 250-350 on the yags.



Of course this is excellent news for thieves, since the biggest quim with endgame dagger WS's is that they are all multi hit (DE=5, SB=2, Evis=5).

yay that's good news then. Kinda on par with Evi? I do 300'ish on mobs I fight normally in my magey gear, when I change to full dex gear I can go above 500, this'll be fun to play with.

[Eaglestrike]

ya ok, so you remember that gif I posted ??

I wasnt missing Mercy Stroke hits, its an actual 1 hit WS. I'm playing with it now in windurst on the birdies, and I'm averaging around 900-1050 without food.

without SA I do around 250-350 on the yags.



Of course this is excellent news for thieves, since the biggest quim with endgame dagger WS's is that they are all multi hit (DE=5, SB=2, Evis=5).

You have a KI stalker!

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=p ... 2d8#bottom

You don't stalk enough of the thf forums. He was banned on KI and that's his new handle

900-1050 seems like it's a 3x dmg mod and pure one-hit, making it quite a bit more powerful than SB for HNM circumstances. That's great. As well, the additional crits after ws will help thf gain tp on HNM mobs for more Mercy Strokes.