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  1. #41
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    If you don't believe in dune boots you obviously don't have a pair.
    If you don't have a pair, and yet have the time to get a gorget, you obviously aren't a good endgame monk.

    So I stop listening to you here.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    thats fine and dandy but... on the gorget says.. Increase in ws acc and damage. But it does not do anything for damage if you equip a pcharm and it out damage the gorget 99% of the time.

    But like most things in this game i rather stick to solid +stats then belive in some "hidden effect" like dune boots! /flame on! lol
    So hard to test dune boot damage when you don't have them.

    Yeah, Aurik, what people here don't know about crazypluto is that he bought the account his WAR, NIN, and MNK are on. His character that got banned was a NIN and RNG, so yeah, he hasn't tried anything on MNK end-game yet.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    If you don't believe in dune boots you obviously don't have a pair.
    If you don't have a pair, and yet have the time to get a gorget, you obviously aren't a good endgame monk.

    So I stop listening to you here.
    i believe in things like duno boots because i effort to synth wulong shoes +1 and believe that they are worth something

    i also believe in the heart of the cards

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by budd
    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    thats fine and dandy but... on the gorget says.. Increase in ws acc and damage. But it does not do anything for damage if you equip a pcharm and it out damage the gorget 99% of the time.

    But like most things in this game i rather stick to solid +stats then belive in some "hidden effect" like dune boots! /flame on! lol
    So hard to test dune boot damage when you don't have them.

    Yeah, Aurik, what people here don't know about crazypluto is that he bought the account his WAR, NIN, and MNK are on. His character that got banned was a NIN and RNG, so yeah, he hasn't tried anything on MNK end-game yet.
    Yay drama post


    Anyway, i wish there was a Gorget that could have the properties for Rampage + Dancing Edge + Shark Bite all at once. I'd love to have these things but my inventory doesnt support it.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I see almost no real max damage improvement with asuran with flame; it's WAY too variable to make a judgement like that.

    However, I have seen the consistency of my asurans go up a whole bunch. Hardly ever miss more than one punch even in full evasion gear.

    true this. but only with flame. Soil blows imo still. I will try it another day but.. atm no thanks. I really would say flame and pcharm is equal. And i understand the variable is huge but, still top out damage still comes more from a Pcharm. imo
    There's a difference between Flame and Soil Gorget? Both effect their respective weapon skills. Are some gorgets better then others? Any proof here?

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    Yea, can't spell BG without drama.

    Wasn't really the point of my post to say anything "drama-ish", but really... You BUY an account, have it for 2 months, and that automatically gives you the insight to come here and say you know everything about X job or Y item or whatever when you don't even have the items or whatever you're talking about.

    But definately, there should be some "uber gorget" that makes you need all the requirements of all the other gorgets, turn it all in, and just get 1 that works for everything.

    Oh, wait, this is SE we're talking about.

  7. #47
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    I do have dune boots and parsed with many mnks but just aint worth it vs haste for dot* + I am the one that lvled mnk and merit much as possible just becuase your to chicken shit to come PT with a real mnk you come here to talk shit =P

    Mnk job btw is very fun anyone plays it knows it.


    Quick side note.. My banned char had 4 lv75 jobs and mnk was my 5th future job so why hate? I have had my fair share of exp. of this game. unlike some ppl around here that just sit in Port Jeuno on 1 lv75 too weak mnk.. Much love to ya Budd!

  8. #48
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    it's dot, not tod, and enhanced kick damage is way, way, way, way, way better than a shitty 3% haste.

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    I never claimed not to be a dick
    <3 Aurik

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    it's dot, not tod, and enhanced kick damage is way, way, way, way, way better than a shitty 3% haste.


    Even with kick attack merited up it just dont happen enough. Over time haste ftw! i dunno xD haste is damn sexy with all that shit stacked up. But to each his own.

  11. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    it's dot, not tod, and enhanced kick damage is way, way, way, way, way better than a shitty 3% haste.


    Even with kick attack merited up it just dont happen enough. Over time haste ftw! i dunno xD haste is damn sexy with all that shit stacked up. But to each his own.
    Stop posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    I never claimed not to be a dick
    <3 Aurik
    I think I was the one who made him say that quote...a long time ago when we were discussing HQs and keeping them as a crafter.

  13. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    it's dot, not tod, and enhanced kick damage is way, way, way, way, way better than a shitty 3% haste.


    Even with kick attack merited up it just dont happen enough. Over time haste ftw! i dunno xD haste is damn sexy with all that shit stacked up. But to each his own.
    The math is very simple. 3% means that after 35ish attack rounds you'll finally get your extra round. Dune Boots will allow you to hit 1.5x's harder. every time you kick (10-15%). So in 35ish attack rounds...you don't need a doctorate to figure this out.

  14. #54
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    Someone I know got Shadow gorget to use for asuran, I am not sure how those 2 work (light and shadow), do they work on all ws that contain 4 of those sub elements that make them up (like water,ice, earth etc for shadow) or only on gravitation and transfixion?

    About gorgets:

    I have flame and thunder gorgets and I can't really tell the difference with or without it, not so obvious of an effect (I might have to end up chucking them for space at some point too and re-quest them later).

    Like other people have said I do think that it's probably more noticeable with really hard mobs, and I can believe iwhile the accuracy might help all 8 hits of asuran the damage improvement probably just affects only the first hit. I tried parsing a bit to see the effect, hard to tell, couldn't come up with anything even about averages, and certainly not about max dmg on asuran, which still stays on 1350 or so.


    About haste etc vs dune boots, extra 2x+ dmg on kicks with dune boots is very noticeable, from day 1 i tried them it was absolutely obvious.
    For damage 3% haste is not really much, you already have 13% haste from the spell and 17% just from belt and legs. However one thing about dune boots is that they are fUgly, and in most cases you might not care only about raw damage but also about safety, guarding, or when not in xp pts, /nin tanking. For those reasons I often wear more melee gaiters (guard hp and dex), or might go with haste+ (for utsu timer, but even then it could just be a swap for recast).
    I have 5 merits in kicks (and 5 in counters) and kicks are really noticeable even without anything like melee hose when I do apollyon SE with vampire claws (claws do 230 on criticals, kicks are still considered blunt so they do 0 on criticals too... and I notice those 0s a lot more).

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    Over time haste ftw! i dunno xD haste is damn sexy with all that shit stacked up. But to each his own.
    This from the guy who thought a year ago that march didn't affect utsu recast timer.

    I believe that's what you call irony.

    And yes I did register for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    And yes I did register for that.
    ...and it was worth every second.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla
    Quote Originally Posted by crazypluto
    Over time haste ftw! i dunno xD haste is damn sexy with all that shit stacked up. But to each his own.
    This from the guy who thought a year ago that march didn't affect utsu recast timer.

    I believe that's what you call irony.

    And yes I did register for that.
    Sorry you have me mistaken for someone else. March song x2 always been by fav vs most any other song. esp nin pt's.

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    Sorry, I'm probably thinking of someone else.

    This was the shell holder of BR at level 70 using 2 wing swords in a bibiki pt.

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