AV @ Remora

[BRP]

Did you try talking to the "???" after killing it?

[Ashen]

Point to end any arguements about AV not dropping items because it's not supposed to die:
When it dies, it says some text which shows that it indeed was supposed to be brought to 0% SE wouldn't make him say any last words when he dies if he's not supposed to die in the first place.

Also, to those who say it takes no skill to do what Apathy did: go out and do it yourself if its so goddamn easy. And it will be physically impossible for the grin on my face to grow any bigger when I see screenshots of you getting your faces pwned in because AV "takes absolutely no skill to beat."

[Cherul]

AV VIDEO

http://download.filefront.com/489328...3f6ddacb85c71d

[Takexo]

Kiting takes away a mobs ability to cast magic on you and takes away some WS's.

if it were a normal mob, yes. this mob moves MUCH faster than the fastest possible movent speed available to players, and all his spells are instant cast. You cannot get out of range, period.

People still assuming he can be equated to a normal mob after this long -_-

That was @ Janice. I wasn't suggesting kiting lol.

[Takexo]

kite fights are against the rules because you're negating the mob's ability to attack you

Last I checked, when you kited a mob it came after you and does land hits on you even though you are kiting it. You kite Vrtra but he can still whack at you and hit your whole alliance with wing. You kite Kirin but he can still run up to you and do his vartious moves. You kite KB but he can do his mass AoE stun and hit you.

Now Kiting is using good strategy (for certain mobs), getting something stuck in a wall is an exploit.

Use your common sense and quit coming up with weak arguments such as proclaiming kiting a mob to be an exploit.

Kiting takes away a mobs ability to cast magic on you and takes away some WS's.

Is it safe to assume you haven't even fought Kirin yet when you make this kind of claim? Because the last time we kited him he still nailed people with spells such as sleepga and he most definetly had a knack of hitting people with his TP moves. Doesn't seem like you've ever kited a mob before, so I guess I shouldn't even try to boil your mind with Vrtra.

You can get out of range of Stonega IV and Stone V and Deadly Hold. I've killed Kirin many times. Vrtra 3 times. That was directed at Janice because I assume she's kited mobs before but she still contantly whines about this not being a fair kill (which I suppose it wasn't, but the mob isn't very fair either).

[Senoska]

The only thing I dont like about this is the only way to kill is it is to throw as many BLMs as you possibly can at it, give melee a break! lol

[Kaylia]

AV will be nerfed next patch, and they will upgrade his pathfinding. The end.

The only thing I dont like about this is the only way to kill is it is to throw as many BLMs as you possibly can at it, give melee a break! lol

Taken from gamefaqs. Made me laugh

From: Cat0234 | Posted: 3/18/2006 9:14:43 PM | Message Detail
The ONE mob in the game which requires mass blms to kill.

Drops nothing.

I guess they really are useless after all.

[Janice]

You can get out of range of Stonega IV and Stone V and Deadly Hold. I've killed Kirin many times. Vrtra 3 times.

You can. Doesn't mean you always will.

If you really want to compare kirin to AV, you can't compare kirins kiting. Anything kirin has can still hit you. Compare it to being in another room and being able to nuke kirin through the wall and all it can do to use is rasp sleepga stonega stone and quake. Imagine how much easier kirin would be if you could do that, and would you consider it a winning strategy, or an exploit?

[FFXIFlux]

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/pics/kerafyrm.jpg

Pure pwn. Does she still exist on any servers?

Kerafyrm has been killed on a few servers. I think it got added back, but I haven't really followed what has gone on. No loot though, not even a cloth cap, as it was never intended to be killed.

[Senoska]

that is REALLY IRONIC you posted a picture of teh sleeper, I made a post about her on KI a few weeks ago related to AV, it seems SE copyed the sleeper xD

[Takexo]

You can get out of range of Stonega IV and Stone V and Deadly Hold. I've killed Kirin many times. Vrtra 3 times.

You can. Doesn't mean you always will.

If you really want to compare kirin to AV, you can't compare kirins kiting. Anything kirin has can still hit you. Compare it to being in another room and being able to nuke kirin through the wall and all it can do to use is rasp sleepga stonega stone and quake. Imagine how much easier kirin would be if you could do that, and would you consider it a winning strategy, or an exploit?

Does Kirin move at flee speed? Cast Meteor, Aero V, Aeroga IV, Comet, etc instantly? Have 3-6 Wynav's that move at flee speed as well and can WS for Flail damage+?

Even with the WoJ, AV could still cast on the BLM's (if I'm not mistaken, I recall reading that). Just makes it fair.

[Razz]

Grats on the kill.

Now /cue 493843 LSes doing the same wall-o-justice trick :3

[Celeras]

Does Kirin move at flee speed?

Yes?

[merper]

I imagine it's a lot easier to pull this off when the GMs on your server congratulate you instead of threaten to jail you. Garuda blows.

Also, I can guarantee that killing wynavs simultaneously doesn't stop regen or 2hrs, as we did that mutliple times and still faced both.

[Takexo]

I imagine it's a lot easier to pull this off when the GMs on your server congratulate you instead of threaten to jail you. Garuda blows.

Also, I can guarantee that killing wynavs simultaneously doesn't stop regen or 2hrs, as we did that mutliple times and still faced both.

GM's can move servers.

[Senoska]

yea can someone help me understand that a little bit? I was told someone got threatened with a perma bann for using the wall??

[merper]

yea can someone help me understand that a little bit? I was told someone got threatened with a perma bann for using the wall??

That would be us last night. See the garuda AV thread.

[Amara]

Lol @ no drops.

Great accomplishment guys, regardless whether it was "legit" or not, too bad its a completely worthless, unrewarding timesink like the rest of Sea.

[Trusix]

That video just makes it pretty obvious it wasn't intended to be killed that way. I wouldn't even count it as the first kill, but whatever.

[FFXIFlux]

AV drops 7 sins. There are 7 virtue weapons. It seems too easy that you'd kill it with the virtue weapon of the sin you'd want it to drop as most of the sins result in items that are... not overly spectacular and look like the dross meant to clog up an otherwise decent loot table, ala all the shit Fafnir drops aside from Ridill.

Anyway, according to mystertour

-Futsuno Mitama - sin of insolence -
-Aureole - sin of intemperance -
-Raphael's Rod - sin of infatuation -
-Ninurta's Sash - sin of indignation -
-Mars's Ring - sin of indolence -
-Bellona's Ring - sin of indulgence -
-Minerva's Ring - sin of invidiousness -