Amazing Items Crafted Recently

[Sanoske]

LOL 7/191... 3 IN 1 DAY LMFAOOOOO

Your T0 record is better then all of my T1 records.

Same =/

Sano is hereby banished from ever bitching about HQs, EVER. gtfo Mr. I have the 2 rarest HQ in the game under my belt.

>.<

For all my HQs(once in a while), I seem to lose gil at an alarming rate. -5M in the past week alone. <.<

[Hemorabe]

Ok so recently I've been trying to use my friends account to synth myself full Heca-1. Well today I felt a little adventurous and decided to attempt a Weskit, these were the results.
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The reason for my excitement as said in the SS is that I'm 1/1 on this particular synth :D
p.s please forgive the PS2/crappy Digital camera pictures.

[Ramzii]

I think tsm is gonna explode soon lol... 6+ genie weskits in the last 2 pages

[Hemorabe]

I guess I might as well post my current Heca-1 items completed so far while I'm at it, this has been over the course of the last 2 months or so.
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1/5
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1/1
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1/26
Special thanks goes out to Skycloud for allowing me to make more HQ's than him on his own toon

[Ramzii]

what tier is subligar? I might try making one for luls

[Majestic]

Hemorabe you lucky bitch.. you got leathercraft support on cursed leggings, which is 94 bone. You're 1/1 tier 0 leggings

Ramzii, subligar are tier 1, being bone 91 and leather 41.

[Epical]

If all the Genie-ing on the last page or so wasn't enough, someone had to go 1/1. Sup TSM. 8)

[Leeto]

last two pages of this thread are fucking hilarious...

[Hemorabe]

I wasn't 1/1 on the Leggings, I was 1/26 on the Leggings-1. The Cursed Subligar was the 1/1 sorry for the confusion if I wrote it retardidly. As to why I got leathercraft sub imo the whole synth is a tier0 due to the unknown leathercraft sub..... I plan in the near future of finding out the exact sub of this synth because a friend is leveling Bone and I'll have him attempt the 15 level gap(450k for this info is worth it imo).
I'll take the 1/1 on the Subligar because its about 300k loss per NQ and even then the NQs sell once every other month basically. NQ Leggings are around 50k per loss.

[Valacirca]

I wasn't 1/1 on the Leggings, I was 1/26 on the Leggings-1. The Cursed Subligar was the 1/1 sorry for the confusion if I wrote it retardidly. As to why I got leathercraft sub imo the whole synth is a tier0 due to the unknown leathercraft sub..... I plan in the near future of finding out the exact sub of this synth because a friend is leveling Bone and I'll have him attempt the 15 level gap(450k for this info is worth it imo).
I'll take the 1/1 on the Subligar because its about 300k loss per NQ and even then the NQs sell once every other month basically. NQ Leggings are around 50k per loss.

Even if you were unsure if you could hit tier 1 due to the leather sub, its still questionable why you'd get leather enhancement when you wouldn't be high enough on bone to break that tier. >.>; Worked out in your favor anyway, but still...

[Hemorabe]

Sorry if I didn't post a reason for the leather sub, thought I did but appearantly 3 AM gets to you. I was doing a synth for a friend (Scorpion Harness) to be exact and he prefered Leathercraft sub is why I chose that particular support. I still hold to the thought that the Leggings are indeed tier0 due to craptastic results across the board by everyone lol.

[thestalkmore]

If all the Genie-ing on the last page or so wasn't enough, someone had to go 1/1. Sup TSM. 8)

I'm just numb now.

[Sonded]

Was that seriously 6 Genie's in the past 2 pages? I think all of TSM HQ's have been distributed between all the servers

*edit number, this blind taru can't count either*

[Acesmcnugget]

Does anyone actually still think Cursed Leggings might be Tier 0? I know I'm managing to pop them out at around 10% (not very many samples, but my bone mule just recently hit 100), and I know that the price on them definitely doesn't imply T0 (harness and cap-1 both fetch 10+ mil, while leggings fetch the same as gloves (in the 3-4M range). I don't have any hardcore proof, but I definitely do not believe that they are anything but Tier 1, and I was under the impression that this was the general consensus.

Also, while I understand that you had leathercraft support for another synth, it is still stupid to not get bone support for this particular synth. When it is known that you can break T1 on the main craft, and the subcraft is unknown, it makes no sense to not use support for the main craft. You may very well be screwing yourself out of T1 just because you want to assume that the level of the subcraft is higher than it actually is.

[Hemorabe]

Does anyone actually still think Cursed Leggings might be Tier 0? I know I'm managing to pop them out at around 10% (not very many samples, but my bone mule just recently hit 100), and I know that the price on them definitely doesn't imply T0 (harness and cap-1 both fetch 10+ mil, while leggings fetch the same as gloves (in the 3-4M range). I don't have any hardcore proof, but I definitely do not believe that they are anything but Tier 1, and I was under the impression that this was the general consensus.

Also, while I understand that you had leathercraft support for another synth, it is still stupid to not get bone support for this particular synth. When it is known that you can break T1 on the main craft, and the subcraft is unknown, it makes no sense to not use support for the main craft. You may very well be screwing yourself out of T1 just because you want to assume that the level of the subcraft is higher than it actually is.

You're the first person I've heard of getting around 10%, everyone who I have talked to has gone around 1/25+. Skeetaru being 1/37 or some crap like that, which leads me to my half-assed conclusion that this is a tier0. If the Leather is any higher than 50(which more than likely it is if you think about it) then its a tier0, as I said I will find the subcraft for this in the near future.

[Quendi]

Not one to post things like this, but I'm pretty proud about this piece for myself, as it was really my only reason to take leathercraft to 100.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...3/img_0647.png

[Nighteagle]

cursed leggings are tier1. Just bad luck when you go 1/25ish. look at the people 0/38 on Amemet Mantle+1

[Acesmcnugget]

You're the first person I've heard of getting around 10%, everyone who I have talked to has gone around 1/25+. Skeetaru being 1/37 or some crap like that, which leads me to my half-assed conclusion that this is a tier0. If the Leather is any higher than 50(which more than likely it is if you think about it) then its a tier0, as I said I will find the subcraft for this in the near future.

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (92 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Gloves
o HQ #1: Cursed Gloves -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (91 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Silk Cloth, Tiger Leather
o Result: Cursed Subligar
o HQ #1: Cursed Subligar -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (94 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (? - Unknown)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather x2, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Leggings
o HQ #1: Cursed Leggings -1



All 3 synths use some combination of angel skin, tiger leather, and wyvern scales. In fact, the only difference between this synth, and cursed gloves (which has conclusively been proven to be a tier 1) is an additional piece of tiger leather. Any reason why the leather sub on the gloves and subligar would be tier 1able, while the sub on leggings is 50+(which it apparently "more than likely is if you think about it")?

You make the assumption that going 1/25 or 1/37 on a synth disqualifies it from being tier 1. I'm no statistics major or anything, but going 1/25 on a synth where you have a 10%(or less, depending on who you ask) HQ rate is probably not that uncommon. Show me a group of people consistently going 1/25(I.E. going 10/250), and then perhaps you are right. But to HQ 1 out of 25 is hardly proof that the synth is T0.

[Hemorabe]

You're the first person I've heard of getting around 10%, everyone who I have talked to has gone around 1/25+. Skeetaru being 1/37 or some crap like that, which leads me to my half-assed conclusion that this is a tier0. If the Leather is any higher than 50(which more than likely it is if you think about it) then its a tier0, as I said I will find the subcraft for this in the near future.

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (92 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Gloves
o HQ #1: Cursed Gloves -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (91 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Silk Cloth, Tiger Leather
o Result: Cursed Subligar
o HQ #1: Cursed Subligar -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (94 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (? - Unknown)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather x2, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Leggings
o HQ #1: Cursed Leggings -1



All 3 synths use some combination of angel skin, tiger leather, and wyvern scales. In fact, the only difference between this synth, and cursed gloves (which has conclusively been proven to be a tier 1) is an additional piece of tiger leather. Any reason why the leather sub on the gloves and subligar would be tier 1able, while the sub on leggings is 50+(which it apparently "more than likely is if you think about it")?

You make the assumption that going 1/25 or 1/37 on a synth disqualifies it from being tier 1. I'm no statistics major or anything, but going 1/25 on a synth where you have a 10%(or less, depending on who you ask) HQ rate is probably not that uncommon. Show me a group of people consistently going 1/25(I.E. going 10/250), and then perhaps you are right. But to HQ 1 out of 25 is hardly proof that the synth is T0.

Actually, if you want to get technical you were the one who made the assumption of the leggings being tier1 due to your 10% HQ rate which you yourself said wasn't a large sample size. I myself have talked to 5 people on my server all of which are 1/19+ (1/19,1/20,1/23,1/26,1/36). Thats an average of almost 1/25 which certainly could or could not be tier1 in which I said in >my< opinion it is tier0. It could go either way but without anyone posting for certain the appropriate sub level its all a guessing and opinions game in which you are entitled to yours and I am to mine.

p.s what I meant by saying "If you think about it" is that if you look around your server you will see 10x the amount of Cursed Gloves-1 as compared to Cursed Leggings-1. Both are equally as easy Abj to get and are made around the same amount, in fact if you check FFXIAH for Diabolos you will see that Cursed Leggings sell/made more often than Gloves. This is where I got my partial sample size/conclusion from as well as the quotes from the other Bonecrafters.

[Acesmcnugget]

You're the first person I've heard of getting around 10%, everyone who I have talked to has gone around 1/25+. Skeetaru being 1/37 or some crap like that, which leads me to my half-assed conclusion that this is a tier0. If the Leather is any higher than 50(which more than likely it is if you think about it) then its a tier0, as I said I will find the subcraft for this in the near future.

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (92 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Gloves
o HQ #1: Cursed Gloves -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (91 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (41 - Apprentice)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Silk Cloth, Tiger Leather
o Result: Cursed Subligar
o HQ #1: Cursed Subligar -1

* Main Skill: Bonecraft (94 - Veteran)
o Sub-Skill: Leathercraft (? - Unknown)
o Crystal: Earth
o Ingredients: Angel Skin, Tiger Leather x2, Wyvern Scales
o Result: Cursed Leggings
o HQ #1: Cursed Leggings -1



All 3 synths use some combination of angel skin, tiger leather, and wyvern scales. In fact, the only difference between this synth, and cursed gloves (which has conclusively been proven to be a tier 1) is an additional piece of tiger leather. Any reason why the leather sub on the gloves and subligar would be tier 1able, while the sub on leggings is 50+(which it apparently "more than likely is if you think about it")?

You make the assumption that going 1/25 or 1/37 on a synth disqualifies it from being tier 1. I'm no statistics major or anything, but going 1/25 on a synth where you have a 10%(or less, depending on who you ask) HQ rate is probably not that uncommon. Show me a group of people consistently going 1/25(I.E. going 10/250), and then perhaps you are right. But to HQ 1 out of 25 is hardly proof that the synth is T0.

Actually, if you want to get technical you were the one who made the assumption of the leggings being tier1 due to your 10% HQ rate which you yourself said wasn't a large sample size. I myself have talked to 5 people on my server all of which are 1/19+ (1/19,1/20,1/23,1/26,1/36). Thats an average of almost 1/25 which certainly could or could not be tier1 in which I said in >my< opinion it is tier0. It could go either way but without anyone posting for certain the appropriate sub level its all a guessing and opinions game in which you are entitled to yours and I am to mine.

Your opinion is wrong.

If you can show me any basis as to why gloves and subligar are both level 41 leathercraft, but for some reason leggings(which are almost the EXACT same synth as gloves) is 50+ leathercraft, then perhaps I'll consider your ideas. Until then, you're just arguing for the sake of not admitting you're wrong.