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  1. #21
    The God Damn Kuno
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    I love being interupted on blm. It's sort of a hand slapping you on the wrist. Like for example Im nuking something and during the middle of a cast I steal hate for some reason; the mob smacks me like its bitch, someone else gets hate, and it gets interupted. Now if it wasnt interupted I'd have a shit-ton of hate cause I was already high on the list and another spell immediatly after woulda sealed the deal.

  2. #22
    Yoshi P
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    "Bad Kuno, bad!"

  3. #23
    Official THE Alpha and Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora
    Our server is a bunch of fad, bandwagon BLMs or some shit.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...anora/rite.jpg

    lol
    Because with that many merits he obviously just started Black Mage last month.
    It was just a funny coincidence

  4. #24

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    It's a coincedence I first leveled the job to become the 2nd RNG? '-' People as a whole are stupid, lazy and followers. It has to reach be some job. o.o

    While we're off-topic though, I love spell interruption merits. I try to use them as a life-saving thing, often soloing, or any sleep/bind/gravity, where getting that spell is what will buy you the time to survive. Besides, as a taru, if I pull hate for one hit at some HNMs, it's enough to do the job. ._.

    Anyway, Fenrir is fucked up, and demand to perfect melee jobs just isn't there. I know of at least 2 other people trying to sell Haubergeon +1s right now. I just had another one returned today. ; ;

  5. #25
    RIDE ARMOR
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    lol ror, yeah i dunno why i couldnt sell melee items, ive been trying to sell some luisant gears, but no one wants to buy it, i saw a few people trying to sell hauberk+1 and haubergeon+1 for a couple weeks...

    i think i made a mistake leveling smithing... i hope new expansion will fix this >.>

  6. #26
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    lower the price then lol. an item is not worth the price of the last sale on the AH. an item is worth how much people will pay for it. If you have luisant gear and it's not selling, it's because it's not worth the price you're asking for it. I never understood why people have such a hard time sacrificing a few hundred k of profit to get the item out the door quicker.

    Example:
    Let's say there's a certain item I make for profit. It's a 10% item, the cost to make it is 300k, and the NQ sells for 150k on the AH.

    If I price this HQ for 5 million it will take 1 week to sell. If I price it for 4.3 million it will take 4 days to sell. Every time one sells I make 10 more.

    Net Profit from one batch with HQ priced at 4.3 million
    [4300k - 300k] - [9 x (300k-150k) ]
    = 4000k - 1350k
    = 2650k

    Net Profit from one batch with HQ priced at 5 million
    [5000k - 300k] - [9 x (300k-150k) ]
    = 4700k - 1350k
    = 3350k


    Amount of profit after 28 days
    With 4.3 million HQ = 2650k x 7 = 18.6 million
    With 5 million HQ = 3350k x 4 = 13.4 million

    Now, you tell me, which is the better choice? Please note that the example I used is actually real, and this is a synth I actually make a lot of money from. While everyone else and their mothers is pricing the HQs at 5 million, i'm pricing them at around 4 million and selling in bazaars.

  7. #27
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    Assuming your NQs don't kill the market when you're turning a hq around that fast.

    Assuming that you can reliably sell your hq in that amount of time.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Assuming your NQs don't kill the market when you're turning a hq around that fast.

    Assuming that you can reliably sell your hq in that amount of time.
    I've been doing it for a while, and it's been pretty consistent for about as long as I can remember. Regardless, however, the point remains the same. Whenever I see people talking about how they HQed 2 of something in a row and they can't sell it I just laugh. In most cases you could lower the price 20% or more and still make a really nice profit off of it. People are just too blinded by "AH prices" and "market prices" and thinking that they must set their price to a certain number or else they're getting cheated.

  9. #29
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    My most accomplished thing of my whole clothcrafting career.

    When crafting today in between crafting prism capes, I HQ'ed 4/12 rainbow cloths

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkfish
    When crafting today in between crafting rainbow capes, I HQ'ed 4/12 rainbow cloths
    Fixed for my experience. HQ materials ftw.

  11. #31
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    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.

  12. #32

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    lower the price then lol.
    Latest Haubergeon+1 returned was up for 20m, when history is 26-29 Smithing is lame on our server, and apparently Hades too. There's also a pair of Alky bracelets going down 5m every 2 days in bazaar for the last few weeks. It started at 70m and is now 35m; maybe in a few days, his price will collide with my haubergeon+1 at 10m and we can trade. =l

  13. #33
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    This is why i don't craft for people.

  14. #34
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    It's not that it's lame, it's that everything is deflating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadzee
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    This is why i don't craft for people.
    Too bad I'm paying him out, he's just away at Spring Break. And I paid for the synth too.

  16. #36
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    If I was crafting something for a friend, I would hope that they would use the item, HQ or NQ, instead of just using my craft to make a profit.

  17. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponut
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    If I was crafting something for a friend, I would hope that they would use the item, HQ or NQ, instead of just using my craft to make a profit.
    I did use it...from mid-60's pld to 73, where I've taken a break and muled all my pld gear. I was keeping the hauby around still for when I went back to it but I needed the gil. Other information in my above post.

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadzee
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    This is why i don't craft for people.

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by deadzee
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    I had a friend craft a Hauby for me a little bit ago, he HQ'd, I went to sell it recently, sold first night I was out there, for 1mil more than any of the last 10 sales on AH. No problem selling it since it was at the right price, I guess.
    This is why i don't craft for people.
    its stupid to use someone else to make money, even if you do "pay him out" you better pay him out the difference between nq price and hq

  20. #40
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    yeah price is still going down even more. o well at least SE for once did a good job on gilsellers, but apparently its hurting crafters lol... life just doesnt work that perfect >.>

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