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  1. #881
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora
    Um.. that's a separate sentence. The point I'm making is the other crafts have synths that will naturally take place a lot more often as their options for amazing T0s. None of the listed Leather/Cloth synths require a king abjuration, further making what little options Smithing has unrealistic.
    i beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki
    Theres a difference between a Tier 1 that costs 100k-2/3m to make and HQ and something that costs 10m+ to risk making and HQ.

    Ppl dogging on the Tier Is need to stfu, sorry. You cant deny the excitment of synthing something that expensive. Hell even NQs can be a relif. (You didnt bomb someone's life savings, a LS's reward, etc) Someone added that us 100+6ers dont see these HQs as significant but this is coming from one. Congrats, I bet u wet urself when u saw that animation. Synthing something like that is a feat in itself, HQing it, even at a 10% HQ rate, is kick ass.
    Shinning cloths are 4.8-5M on my server.
    Reselling NQ's are about the same price, say take into account of AH fee, each per/synth loss is 200k ish.
    In my eyes, that's crap shit to throw away 200k a synth for a tier1. I've busted so many millions, 200k is abosolutely peanuts.
    http://ffxiah.com/item.php?id=831&stack=0&sid=21
    Crafting and reselling them as turnover is not big deal. Click on above, I've had more than 10 Shining cloths over a span of a week (excluding ones I buy in Bazaars), however, Nobles sells 2-4 A DAY.
    Quick turnover = more chances of HQ.
    Compare that say to Cursed mitts-1, not only Mitts are tier0, they bear BIGGER LOSS per synth running at 500k each synth!
    Yet you consider this to be amazing synth, is truly mindboggling to me. (given that you yourself are a fellow crafter).

    Which is why I stated earlier, "what's so great about tier1 on this synth?"

    As Raineer said, Aristocrat is not uncommon nowadays. People are shouting to sell them for 17M everyday on my server, yet no ones buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora
    Posting in this environment where people pay for Spharai with crafting profits, it's safe to assume a shining cloth isn't someone's life savings. A shining cloth costs you 5m on my server, an amount that D.ingots used to run. Posting Haubergeon+1s would probably get the same kinda reaction, albeit a pimp item, just like Aristocrat's Coat is, but it didn't require such dumb luck from the "random" number generator in FFXI we all love so much that some other synths would.
    QFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by wop
    Shinning cloths are 4.8-5M on my server.
    Reselling NQ's are about the same price, say take into account of AH fee, each per/synth loss is 200k ish.
    In my eyes, that's crap shit to throw away 200k a synth for a tier1. I've busted so many millions, 200k is abosolutely peanuts.
    http://ffxiah.com/item.php?id=831&stack=0&sid=21
    Crafting and reselling them as turnover is not big deal. Click on above, I've had more than 10 Shining cloths over a span of a week (excluding ones I buy in Bazaars), however, Nobles sells 2-4 A DAY.
    Quick turnover = more chances of HQ.
    Compare that say to Cursed mitts-1, not only Mitts are tier0, they bear BIGGER LOSS per synth running at 500k each synth!
    Yet you consider this to be amazing synth, is truly mindboggling to me. (given that you yourself are a fellow crafter).

    Which is why I stated earlier, "what's so great about tier1 on this synth?"

    As Raineer said, Aristocrat is not uncommon nowadays. People are shouting to sell them for 17M everyday on my server, yet no ones buy them.
    Your Blessed Trousers +1, that you seem to be so proud of, are much more of a 'worthy' accomplishment though.. Just because they're t0 and more rare? That synth is roughly a 10-15% NQ profit on my server with a decent turnover rate, not to mention a less risky combine than Noble's is.

    Congratulations on your synth though, I'll also give you a big round for turning this nice happy brag/discussion thread into something far from what it originally was meant for.

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    Its the 3rd and 4th I made but first back to back HQs on those.
    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...03-06_1622.jpg

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    your completely ignoring the risk wop with noble synths. Turnover rate might break even or yield a small profit but you still risk and probably WILL break a shining cloth in your lifetime of synthing. On my server these things always hover around break even or slight loss (mats to NQ turnover).

    Either way one break, boom 5m down the drain.

    As much as we are proud to show off our tier 0s you cant deny the relif and excitment of Hqing something that can potentially bust 5m. You also cant deny the fact that the profit margins on something like that (assuming you can get it sold, your server is a break even on nobles, and you dont bust any) are pretty significant. Its probably one of the largest margins for CCs.

    The bottom line and im not going to argue this further, is for some tier1s, yes they are something to be proud of. Yes, I know 95% of them are not worth mentioning at all. But handful of them out there carry next to no profit when turned over, carry an extremely high risk but when HQd represent a large bank and a still quasi rare white box. Also not everyone is a card carrying 2 coma, 6 digit club member as you might assume around here.

    Im going to post my Cerberus Mantle +1 on here when I make it, and Ill be proud too.

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    any synth that has materials totaling about your entire bank account (I currently have about 7.5M gil) is an achievement, just as is getting clothcraft to 99 while hovering anywhere from 2-10M and never having over 11M while crafting. While some of you get to just buy stacks and stacks of rainbow cloth/thread (i'm talking at prices about 6 months ago), some of us had to go farm spiderwebs, synth those into thread, and then into cloths to just continue leveling.

    My ls always makes fun of me because I synth every ingredient I can for my synths while leveling, but it is the only way I could afford to level the huge moneypit that is clothcraft. I guess its only impressive to Wo if I post my screenshot of Dance shoes +1 that I got while 2 levels under cap, OBVIOUSLY thats more impreessive than a Aristo synth. Go figure

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    relic in his sig too lol

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    Roranora, concerning my HQ rates, that was only the last weekend. The weekend before, I went 0/12 on celata -1, and 0/8 on mufflers -1 , though my totoal for solleretes is 2/5. I made the -1 feet because 1. They look cooler than amir, and I don't wanna do assault for em, and 2. HQ cursed gear is cooler, expecially when made by you.
    Also, what did you do to get tier 1 on the cursed breeches? Send a PM if you don't wanna say it here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilu
    I guess its only impressive to Wo if I post my screenshot of Dance shoes +1 that I got while 2 levels under cap, OBVIOUSLY thats more impreessive than a Aristo synth. Go figure
    Lost for words here.
    How the hell you can compare a SKILL UP item which is cheap as chips to synth, with other tier0 syths?
    Most expensive mat in Dance Shoe is Rainbow cloth.
    LOL Compare that with Cursed Mitts-1 for eg, TOTALLY NO COMPARISON.
    I myself have HQd 2 of those on my way to 98 some months ago, you do not see me posting that do you?
    You obviously missed the memo, and shows you truly do not understand the viewpoint of a crafter regarding "incredible synths".
    As Roranora said, there are synths that are truly deserves to be here, but sadly in our books, Aristocrat fails to deliver as I repeat " not the most head-turning HQ."
    Done posting here.

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    Yeah good points on the sollerets; I use dusk anyway on WAR. As for the breeches, 92 cap on smithing, so 100+3 was fine; I got max aid on leather. While sites all say unknown, I "feel" the cap being 52 leather or less, so 60+3 covered that end as well. I think I went 2/18 on HQ during that session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xbosskee
    Its the 3rd and 4th I made but first back to back HQs on those.
    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...03-06_1622.jpg
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    If I can ever get my HQ to work I will post something here

    LoL and other smithers...0/18 on haub+1 lol ask tekki about my HQ =P

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    lol, way to fuck this thread up. Dumbass.

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    I just broke a behomoth ring and critical lossed it xD first big synth sence I started, figured id post it.

    Also, 1/1 hauberk+1 :3

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    Heh, nice Eggwoll.

    And Roranora, I also use dusk for war, but with the extra cash, I decided to have some fun . And thanks on breeches, I'll try and make a pair of -1 next time I get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemonxel
    If I can ever get my HQ to work I will post something here

    LoL and other smithers...0/18 on haub+1 lol ask tekki about my HQ =P
    2/53. I went 2/11 and haven't HQed since

    I'm not sure if that can be considered worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic
    Heh, nice Eggwoll.

    And Roranora, I also use dusk for war, but with the extra cash, I decided to have some fun . And thanks on breeches, I'll try and make a pair of -1 next time I get on.
    I didn't actually synth them, just bought a pair from xbosskee then 30 minutes later kill fafnir and got the e.hand abjuration

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    Ah, nice anyways. For me, the hard part will be the abjs ; ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alathar
    Quote Originally Posted by Daemonxel
    If I can ever get my HQ to work I will post something here

    LoL and other smithers...0/18 on haub+1 lol ask tekki about my HQ =P
    2/53. I went 2/11 and haven't HQed since

    I'm not sure if that can be considered worse?
    There is something about Haubergeon +1 . I when 0 for 37 then turn 3 back to back HQs. Then when 0 for 19 and HQ another. As for Hauberk +1 1 for 22 as of yet.

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