ROFL NINTENDO OWNS

[RustyMetal]

yup, nintendo wins.

[Avvesione]

Sorry but, nobody gives a fuck about playing 20 yr old games on a next gen system.

Actually I do.

I dont care about the console the game is released on, nor it's age. If the game has good quality, I will buy it. Maybe that's why I got Super mario when it got re-released to GBC, and why i got LoZ:LttP when it got re-released for GBA. If I bought DS, i'd buy SuperMario 64 for it. All good quality games, no matter what Age, are still good quality.

I can't wait, having all the old games again will be so nice. I started playing MM3 for NES and I feel like playing every game I have for the NES.

[killerc4]

I'm an emulator junky- Nes,genesis, mame cabinet etc... but give me a wireless NES style controller (rev. controller on its side) and a big tv and I'll pay 5 bux to play through FF3 again

[Enkidu]

It would be really cool if revolutions was a handheld, but playing bubble bobble in my frontroom just doesn't seem like it would be as cool as it was when I was 10. I'm more interested in the original games and what they're going to do with the controller.

I still like what sony is doing though... I always wait a year to buy a next-gen system anyways (year after christmas price cuts ftw!) so I'm not even going to try to get all fanboyish over any of the new systems. I just read reviews and play the systems at my fanboy friends places until I'm ready to buy .

It would be really hard for me to let go of GTA and FF if they stick to sony though.

[Lockecole]

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as being as big of a selling point as most of you are making it out to be. There's enough games out there (hell this game alone is enough to keep you busy) that are new games that you have never experienced before, that are worth playing. I just don't see why you'd pay for a system to get games that:

A) You've already played
B) Don't leave anything in the "WOW" department presentation wise
C) Pay for these games, which no doubt will add up to hundreds and hundreds of $$$ if people download them like they do Roms. (not to mention although illegal...people download ROMS anyway)

I dunno...its not revolutionary really (in that any PC can do it) and I don't see why it would be a selling point for anyone....when ingenuity and something new is what the video game industry direly needs at the moment.

[Lordwafik]

the main concern for me, is are the games going to be locked into regions?

Example : the first FF australia got was FF7, we got no NES or SNES ones, does that mean Australia could see the other ones? I'd hope so! I really hope there's no region lockout.

*we did get the rest eventually, on PS1, but anyone who played PS1 versions knows the pain of playing an old FF to have a long loading screen anytime you get into a random battle.

[Zigma]

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And it's portable.

[Maxxthepenguin]

And has few good games made for it.

[Elcura]

I honestly believe that older 2D games are insanely harder than any of these newer 3D games. Whens the last mainstream game that had a good storyline? a good character devlopment?

Ok sure, maybe theres some good instant gradification shoot-um-up, beat-um-down games, but none are lasting or have a great reply value.

Why do you see so many people picking up old FF, Zelda, Mario, etc games? Theyre fun, and have an isane reply value. No matter how many times you beat it, youll come back to them.

That may just be me though, but I do know a lot of others who think the same way.

Id pick a redone version of an older game than some new GTA. Hell, Tecmo Bowl is the only sports game needed.

Give me a good redone version Excitebike or a new Lufia and id buy that sytem in a heartbeat.

You've been under a rock if you think there's been no good mainstream games. Hello RE4, SCII/III, (any NIS game), DMC3/SE, KH/II, Halo/2, SSBM, TimeSplitters and so on (I can go on forever). If you don't like new games, then stay the hell away from Next-Gen consoles and buy a fucking SNES and some cartridges or download the roms.

Old games are replayable because you haven't played them in a long time, it's the same reason you watch old cartoons or read old books, because you loved the way it felt when you read it the first time and you wanna relive the moment(s).

I promise you, in 10 years or so you'll feel exactly the same about PS2/GC/Xbox games, hell, back in the day you didn't have much of an option BUT to play the same game again and again, there's an insane amount of difference in playing a game agin cause it's your choice and playing it again cause there's nothing else to play (which was probably the issue for many people).

Redone games don't command any respect from me, I wouldn't respect a remake of FFVII as much as I would respect a FFXIII, cause everything is basically there for you, you have the story, the system, the characters possibly even the engine (lord knows how fanboys would react if you happen to CHANGE anything) so there's nothing respectable in my eyes about a remake unless the changes are significant.

As for whoever said Gunstar Heroes made Genesis, you are a fucking moron. HELLO SONIC, HELLO GOLDEN AXE AND STREETS OF RAGE. So many good games. I think games will be region locked, it's cause PAL sucks so much ass, seriously (call me selfish) I think any English speaking country should get a NTSC port or an American release, cause getting screwed over for PAL makes me hurt inside.

I sincerly hope all 3 consoles get it right, that way it's a lot more fun for everyone, console wars are for companies only, we're just here to enjoy whatever comes out (MrFriday said it best).

[Elemmire]

does no one remember the sega channel?

[Zigma]

And has few good games made for it.

...

What I am saying is that the revolution isn't doing anything new because those emulators are already available for the PSP for a very long time. There is even a n64 emulator for it (still buggy but runs and is in dev)

There is also a Playstation Emulator that is being developed by Sony itself, Not to mention that one has been in the works by another developer.


I'm not all impressed with the revolution but what they're doing seems nice.

[Gilanth]

1st-party software from Sega and Hudsonsoft's library are not enough to make me excited. Only one game I need to see on the 'download' list to make me cream.

Without that game the Genesis is just average.

Tresure box is out on PS2 includes this alien solider and dynamite heady btw

[Correction]

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as being as big of a selling point as most of you are making it out to be. There's enough games out there (hell this game alone is enough to keep you busy) that are new games that you have never experienced before, that are worth playing. I just don't see why you'd pay for a system to get games that:

A) You've already played
B) Don't leave anything in the "WOW" department presentation wise
C) Pay for these games, which no doubt will add up to hundreds and hundreds of $$$ if people download them like they do Roms. (not to mention although illegal...people download ROMS anyway)

I dunno...its not revolutionary really (in that any PC can do it) and I don't see why it would be a selling point for anyone....when ingenuity and something new is what the video game industry direly needs at the moment.

I think the selling point is that there are a lot of old games that people HAVEN'T played that are worth picking up again.

I mean, there are tons and tons of really old books out there you haven't read. Do you not read them because they're old? 5 bucks for a treasure trove of classic games is a pretty decent deal, and I'd rather encourage this distribution model than the cynical "40 crappy games on a 50 dollar DVD" method being currently used by Namco and Atari to peddle their classic software.

I'm happy that the digital distribution model is at least being attempted, even if I for one have played a good number of classic games out there.

To sum up, the Revolution is promising instant gratification. Buying games from a video game store sucks the same way buying CDs from a music store sucks.

[Razz]

I'm sorry, but I don't see this as being as big of a selling point as most of you are making it out to be. There's enough games out there (hell this game alone is enough to keep you busy) that are new games that you have never experienced before, that are worth playing. I just don't see why you'd pay for a system to get games that:

A) You've already played
B) Don't leave anything in the "WOW" department presentation wise
C) Pay for these games, which no doubt will add up to hundreds and hundreds of $$$ if people download them like they do Roms. (not to mention although illegal...people download ROMS anyway)

I dunno...its not revolutionary really (in that any PC can do it) and I don't see why it would be a selling point for anyone....when ingenuity and something new is what the video game industry direly needs at the moment.

Welcome to Nintendo who like to churn out their back library of NES and SNES games on their 20 versions of the Game Boy, now they are doing it on their next gen console expecting people to pay for it.

The biggest reason why Nintendo haven't achieved anywhere near the level of success they had with the NES and SNES is because of developer support (amongst other things, but I won't go into them). Making people pay for ROMs (when they could just easily download them, legal or not) on a "next-gen" console isn't going to do them any favours in the race for supremacy.

[Genosync]

my two cents on the whole industry:

games just aren't new anymore.

there have been no new, groundbreaking types of games/gameplay that are different from what we've done before for almost the whole last console generation.

Remember when Mario64 came out? Yeah, I'm talking something that big. And you know what? Having to control with a remote control might end up being more than just a silly gimmick.

[Maxxthepenguin]

my two cents on the whole industry:

games just aren't new anymore.

there have been no new, groundbreaking types of games/gameplay that are different from what we've done before for almost the whole last console generation.

Remember when Mario64 came out? Yeah, I'm talking something that big. And you know what? Having to control with a remote control might end up being more than just a silly gimmick.

QFT, and frankly, what important innovation in the gaming world wasn't at one time considered a gimmick.

I hate it when people think the 360 and PS3 are bringing the new to the gaming industry. Cell is just more power, and frankly that's not gonna lead towards innovation that wasn't already going to happen. 360 is um... yeah. Nothing new, it doesn't bring anything to the gaming industry at all. Frankly, its only hope for innovation is if Live Arcade becomes very indie friendly, but it looks like Nintendo already has that covered (Rev dev kits cost less than even PSP dev kits.)

[Elcura]

my two cents on the whole industry:

games just aren't new anymore.

there have been no new, groundbreaking types of games/gameplay that are different from what we've done before for almost the whole last console generation.

Remember when Mario64 came out? Yeah, I'm talking something that big. And you know what? Having to control with a remote control might end up being more than just a silly gimmick.

Creativity isn't something that just appears, you have to work at it, I don't care if the games aren't groundbreakingly new I just want it to be fun, technically all games are new. Honestly I couldn't care less if the next RPG was the same as FFVI with a new story, cause if it works and it's fun that's all that matters. Something new and groundbreaking isn't always fun, but if it works it makes people happy and sells.

For me, a groundbreaking change in a game is something like RE4, although the premise of the game was already around and used it's just the new twist in gameplay that makes it so much fun. I didn't care if RE1 2 and 3 were practically the same with slightly different gameplay elements, IT WAS STILL FUN.

I can go on forever giving examples but ultimately all that matters is FUN.

FUN FUN FUN

Say it with me, have FUN!

[Maxxthepenguin]

Creativity isn't something that just appears, you have to work at it, I don't care if the games aren't groundbreakingly new I just want it to be fun, technically all games are new. Honestly I couldn't care less if the next RPG was the same as FFVI with a new story, cause if it works and it's fun that's all that matters. Something new and groundbreaking isn't always fun, but if it works it makes people happy and sells.

For me, a groundbreaking change in a game is something like RE4, although the premise of the game was already around and used it's just the new twist in gameplay that makes it so much fun. I didn't care if RE1 2 and 3 were practically the same with slightly different gameplay elements, IT WAS STILL FUN.

I can go on forever giving examples but ultimately all that matters is FUN.

FUN FUN FUN

Say it with me, have FUN!

Yes creativity is hard but when presented with a new frontier creativity gets sparked. When developers think of how to adapt old ideas to the Rev it starts a chain reaction of thoughts that more often leads to a new idea than just waiting for inspiration. RE4 was great, but RE 2 and 3 could have been more innovative. Nothing compared to the 2d -> 3d jump as far as innovation pushing, or even the SIGNIFICANT power jump from 1st gen 3d to 2nd gen 3d. Ideas are getting stale to many people, and if companies get into the pattern of just releasing incremental games (IE how sports games work currently) which is becoming a trend, it will become a sad day . Imagine if nobody had the balls to upgrade Zelda to 3d, context sensitive buttons wouldn't be so prevalent or possibly even exist, and those are the basis for many, many games.

[Elcura]

Creativity isn't something that just appears, you have to work at it, I don't care if the games aren't groundbreakingly new I just want it to be fun, technically all games are new. Honestly I couldn't care less if the next RPG was the same as FFVI with a new story, cause if it works and it's fun that's all that matters. Something new and groundbreaking isn't always fun, but if it works it makes people happy and sells.

For me, a groundbreaking change in a game is something like RE4, although the premise of the game was already around and used it's just the new twist in gameplay that makes it so much fun. I didn't care if RE1 2 and 3 were practically the same with slightly different gameplay elements, IT WAS STILL FUN.

I can go on forever giving examples but ultimately all that matters is FUN.

FUN FUN FUN

Say it with me, have FUN!

Yes creativity is hard but when presented with a new frontier creativity gets sparked. When developers think of how to adapt old ideas to the Rev it starts a chain reaction of thoughts that more often leads to a new idea than just waiting for inspiration. RE4 was great, but RE 2 and 3 could have been more innovative. Nothing compared to the 2d -> 3d jump as far as innovation pushing, or even the SIGNIFICANT power jump from 1st gen 3d to 2nd gen 3d. Ideas are getting stale to many people, and if companies get into the pattern of just releasing incremental games (IE how sports games work currently) which is becoming a trend, it will become a sad day . Imagine if nobody had the balls to upgrade Zelda to 3d, context sensitive buttons wouldn't be so prevalent or possibly even exist, and those are the basis for many, many games.

Thing is, many really new, innovative things usually come in smaller doses, those alone don't do much to make the game groundbreaking different, but they do pave the way for ideas for many other people. I agree a lot of developers are getting lazy and the less well known ones don't have the funds to create a great game (even though the ideas and concepts may be there).

RE 2 was new in the way the 2 characters and stories intertwined and basically gave you 4 games, the quick turn (back+square) was also new. RE3 was new in that you could mix gun powders to make ammo (greatness) and could semi customize and make guns. You could dodge and evade alot easier and less cumbersomely then before and Nemesis was a new enemy in RE terms cause he was pretty much the only boss you fought (and was relentless at that, getting chased through multiple zones is new, and no one expected that). So, yeah, RE2 > RE3 was a pretty big jump.

Never talk about sports games, they suck so much the only thing that gets updated are the players and the graphics. Games don't increase by a little bit though usually, I'd think that people are taking bigger steps to make the games more enjoyable, FFX > FFXII is a fucking huge step, even though it's similiar to FFXI (which is also innovative for a MMO) it's still something new and awesome that SE are taking a chance with. RE:CV > RE4 was huge, DMC2 > DMC 3 was pretty big too. SO > SO2 and so on~ if you think about it, the only games that don't really get better or at least different are FPS, RTS, Sports games and .Hack (lol)

A new console does inspire you, and Nintendo also does force you to be creative if you want to develop a game for them but it could also turn off a lot of developers cause ideas are hard to come by. The best thing Nintendo said it would do is allow 3rd party developers, I was excited when I heard that, I didn't give 2 shits when they said you could play S/NES on it (although I cared a bit when they said you could play Genesis). For me, the only thing Nintendo or whoever HAVE, and I mean really HAVE too get right is the controller, for me, Nintendo's fate hangs with the controller.

Get it right, get rich, get it wrong, get out.

[Matricide]

i just bought burnout for x360 and it kicks ass.

i dont care if its a remake, i dont care if its 20 years old, as long as its fun ill play it.