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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbon
    FF7 remade would certainly NOT be a waste of money. I think it would be leet as all hell. Also remember they stopped printing the "greatest hits" ps1 games. Give it another year or two and a remade release would be golden.
    Youd rather have a FF7 remake then the team working on a brand new game?

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    Fuck no, I want both. :D

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    I dunno... the game loses it's nostalgia when it's remade. I replay FF7 mostly to try to relive the experience I had when I first played it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gafgarionn
    I dunno... the game loses it's nostalgia when it's remade. I replay FF7 mostly to try to relive the experience I had when I first played it.
    I support this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    Besides, the point of my post was; next-generation consoles are for next-generation games, the fact that they play older games is a bonus. Buying a next-gen console solely for old games is fucking ass backwards.

    All consoles are expected to be backwards capable, Nintendo took it to the next level.
    I own an Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, and now Xbox360. Maybe we're playing different things, but I'm still waiting for next-gen games. Pretty graphics with reused gameplay does not equal next-gen to me. I much more enjoy playing older games because they focused less on graphics (by force) and way more on gameplay. So sick of the past 5 years of shit.
    I agree entirely, but that's down to the game makers, it took the current generation of games about a year before they started focusing more on gameplay and concepts rather then graphics. It took PS/N64 around that time (perhaps less though) too. It doesn't matter what platform a game is on, if it's gonna be good it's gonna be good, fact is Xbox 360's developers haven't been doing a good job (up until Oblivion).

    Your definition of next-gen is innovation, you're bound to be disapointed if that's all you look for, cause ever console goes far and few inbetween with good games (not every old game was good). Games back then couldn't focus on much of either (gameplay or graphics) because the machines limited them to what they could do, it wasn't a choice.

    My definition is capacity and potential, games have the potential to be bigger, more involving and detailed, the games have more memory and expand on the things you do, every new generation of gaming has increased the things you put into a game and the things you get out of it, the past 5 years have been very enjoyable for me cause I don't get hung up thinking about the older games I enjoyed playing. I feel sorry for the people who can't enjoy a game simply because it isn't LTTP (LOL) or FFVI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    My definition is capacity and potential, games have the potential to be bigger, more involving and detailed, the games have more memory and expand on the things you do, every new generation of gaming has increased the things you put into a game and the things you get out of it
    Somehow being able to increase AI so that your teammate doesn't run in front of your line of fire during combat isn't that next-gen to me =(

    And I didn't hate every game the past 5 years. Some were quite good. The majority were rushed halfassed sequels, which I can't stand anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    My definition is capacity and potential, games have the potential to be bigger, more involving and detailed, the games have more memory and expand on the things you do, every new generation of gaming has increased the things you put into a game and the things you get out of it
    Somehow being able to increase AI so that your teammate doesn't run in front of your line of fire during combat isn't that next-gen to me =(

    And I didn't hate every game the past 5 years. Some were quite good. The majority were rushed halfassed sequels, which I can't stand anymore.
    You know I didn't mean it like that. I just meant how in depth the game can be, the things you can interact with, hell even the number of things going on in the game/screen at the same time without lag. Things like paying attention to details and more complex game engines.

    I've played a lot of good games and some incredibly fun games too, not groundbreaking or entirely new (just done right) on Ps2/GC that even now as we talk I wouldn't mind going back to play right now and in a few more games will hold even more nostalgia then they already do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Carbon
    FF7 remade would certainly NOT be a waste of money. I think it would be leet as all hell. Also remember they stopped printing the "greatest hits" ps1 games. Give it another year or two and a remade release would be golden.
    Youd rather have a FF7 remake then the team working on a brand new game?
    Think of it this way, a remade FF7 is a brand new game! Enhanced Visuals/Story/Music/FMV sequences, the only thing that's the same will be the story, and even then they can add more to it here and there slightly.


    I wouldnt mind them re-making it at all.

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    As much as I love FF7, I think FF6 needs a remake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Carbon
    FF7 remade would certainly NOT be a waste of money. I think it would be leet as all hell. Also remember they stopped printing the "greatest hits" ps1 games. Give it another year or two and a remade release would be golden.
    Youd rather have a FF7 remake then the team working on a brand new game?
    Think of it this way, a remade FF7 is a brand new game! Enhanced Visuals/Story/Music/FMV sequences, the only thing that's the same will be the story, and even then they can add more to it here and there slightly.


    I wouldnt mind them re-making it at all.
    No, the visuals would be the same concept, just better quality. Cloud will look like cloud. A new game would be a new game. An experience I haven't had before. Remakes are a waste of dev time.

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    I used to think the DS was more gimmicky than anything else (yes I do have one), but the newer games have helped to prove otherwise. I will also state that I was never a big fan of handheld systems, but the DS allows me to do things a console can't which is a nice change. By the way, where the hell is a Mario Party game for DS? Seems like the perfect system for one, and not a crappy Mario Party like the GBA had.

    I was skeptical about Revolution as well, but as more details emerge I have to wonder if I will want to get one over a PS3. I'm sure it will be substantially cheaper than the other two as well. If the controller is put together well and works great, then I could see the revolution being a hit but Nintendo still has to figure out how to lure more 3rd party support. If they were able to get SE's support and the next Final Fantasy's on their system, I'd sure as hell buy one over a PS3. But since FF is really the only console game I play anymore I will probably go with whatever system it is coming out on.

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    I'm most definitely getting the Rev due to, well, it being Nintendo and I can't live w/o my Marios, Zeldas, Smash Bros, etc. But also simply because it's going to be cheaper. I don't own a 360, and don't plan on it anytime soon. I'd like a PS3, but if the cost is astronomical (like $300-400+), it ain't gonna happen. And $60 for ONE X360 game?!?! Insanity! $40 short of being $100 for one game, it's just madness. I usually grab the systems around launch but I think this time, if I do get a PS3, it'll be a year+ after launch. I'll just get all the other games on Rev or PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    No, the visuals would be the same concept, just better quality. Cloud will look like cloud.

    What do you think I just said?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Enhanced Visuals/Story/Music/FMV sequences, the only thing that's the same will be the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    No, the visuals would be the same concept, just better quality. Cloud will look like cloud.

    What do you think I just said?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Enhanced Visuals/Story/Music/FMV sequences, the only thing that's the same will be the story
    Well, my point is just that its better to make new games with untold stories and new characters/gameplay than remake old ones.

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    Except in the eyes of the developer when a remake may/will surpass what the original game made. It would be nice for a FF7 remake, but I'm not the kind of person who will write SE and ask for it. If they do remake it they should add online multiplayer or other new things like that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paralyzed
    Except in the eyes of the developer when a remake may/will surpass what the original game made. It would be nice for a FF7 remake, but I'm not the kind of person who will write SE and ask for it. If they do remake it they should add online multiplayer or other new things like that though.
    How would online multiplayer make any sense for FFVII... And no, usually (though apparently FFVII is an exception, nomura is interested in remaking it) the people making the game would rather work on a fresh idea, the company uses the remake to make money. The main people behind it are usually creative people who like to make new things.

    The problem is mainly the fans of the games, change almost anything and they go in an uproar. If the devs were allowed to reimagine the game, I'd be for remakes, but fans, especially of FFVII, would NOT go for it.

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    Im down for a revolution just to not have to worry about roms and shit, chrono trigger and ff6 on a TV again, hell yeah, good controller I dont have to worry about, damn straight (revo will take GC controllers as well, wavebird hello thar)

    a remake of FF6 and chrono trigger with updated graphics would make me buy any console

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    ...the people making the game would rather work on a fresh idea, the company uses the remake to make money. The main people behind it are usually creative people who like to make new things.
    You obviously, have never played a Capcom game.

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    Remakes for me are more interesting then ports, look at RE1 on the CG. Fucking amazing game, the feeling is still there but the graphic, the monsters and especially the voice acting are all better. New things such as new monsters and weapons and the story is retold to fit in better with the RE universe (as well as more back story).

    FFVII could essentially do the same, better graphics (duh) more story (and fix the original so it makes more sense) new materia and new materia system, hell if they're brave then a new battle system and engine (fuck the fanboys, this must be done). Even more sub quests and strong bosses (FFX had a shit ton) to make the adrenaline flow and make the final boss harder (killing him in 1 spell/move is gay)

    One thing I'd definatly like in FFVII is a better ending. FFVII's ending was so fucking boring.

    They also need to remake the first SO and SO2. I love those games so much =(

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    One thing I'd definatly like in FFVII is a better ending. FFVII's ending was so fucking boring.
    Agreed. A green mist aint no ending, I want them to go more in depth.

    However the whole hand reaching out thing <3 <3


    I really hope they do remake FF7, so I can enjoy it more than I did first time round. I'd enjoy something more, if it had better graphics/sound/music , even if the story was the same.

    But I have no doubt that if they do remake FF7, they'll throw the worldmap out the window. Recently FF doesnt seem too happy with big toon walking around on worldmap, dunno if FF12 has this feature or not.

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