FFXI Bugs

[Francisco]

I'm actually a 75 WHM (MNK main... I quit that WHM BS...), and I never really had a reason to try. Some of the newer mobs have longer stun durations where it might be useful, but I just don't bother with WHM anymore.

Edit: "Mute" being Promathia's silence? Does anything else use it?

[nivlakian]

If people are willing, take the time to send some of these issues to SE.
https://secure.playonline.com/supportus/exmf.html

-Tiamat and Genbu counters don't show in log
-Mobs cast enfeebles on random party members
-melee crown gives incorrect HP
-Jailer of Prudence sometimes appears with no name
-Countered shadows mentions "1 of the <playername>'s shadows absorbs the damage and disappears."
-Gear swap causes skillchain animation and damage not to appear
-Getting stuck on invisible walls (Tavnazian Safehold entrance, Batallia Downs > U. Jueno zone, etc)
-Being locked in position due to spells cast on you


Some of the ones that people mentioned like changing gear causing skillchains to not appear, I sent as a comment/suggestion instead of as a bug report.

The form for bug reports is somewhat lengthy and detailed (even asking for party members) and you can't necessarily remember all of that, but they are required. So, I figured perhaps general comments might bring it to their attention.

[Lordwafik]

I'm actually a 75 WHM (MNK main... I quit that WHM BS...), and I never really had a reason to try. Some of the newer mobs have longer stun durations where it might be useful, but I just don't bother with WHM anymore.

Edit: "Mute" being Promathia's silence? Does anything else use it?

In dynamis bubu, the nightmare cockatrice have AOE Mutega move , it's not a spell, but a move (yay mutega on 20 blms, all in panic when echo drops stopped workin ;p ). Nightmare mandragoras do AOE nightmare and Terror though ^_^

[NynJa]

-Tiamat and Genbu counters don't show in log I dont think its counter, just too much shit happening at once and it doesnt show.
-Mobs cast enfeebles on random party members
-melee crown gives incorrect HP IThis has been covered to be from the Max HP Boost trait.
-Jailer of Prudence sometimes appears with no name
-Countered shadows mentions "1 of the <playername>'s shadows absorbs the damage and disappears."
-Gear swap causes skillchain animation and damage not to appear
-Getting stuck on invisible walls (Tavnazian Safehold entrance, Batallia Downs > U. Jueno zone, etc)
-Being locked in position due to spells cast on you


Some of the ones that people mentioned like changing gear causing skillchains to not appear, I sent as a comment/suggestion instead of as a bug report.

[Lockecole]

That bard song effect glitch has been around for years.. I'm pretty sure that it is attributed to how song effects are decided for your character. Most people think they are decided based on the most recently cast song, but actually it is decided by which song has a longer duration left at the time. You can fix it by using no +2 instruments, or by waiting a bit of time after melee songs before doing ballads. I'm not sure why SE programmed it this way, but it really is a stupid glitch..

Correct, songs overlap based on time left on the song, not most recently cast.

-Tiamat and Genbu counters don't show in log I dont think its counter, just too much shit happening at once and it doesnt show.

Wrong. Guess you don't fight Tiamat much Nynja. Perhaps try him once before acting like you know what you're talking about? And if you have, try paying attention this time. How is it hard to scroll up and see if there was any text. When you die instantly from NOTHING, multiple times, and this happens to multiple people on every server, perhaps something is up?

[Dezzimal]

-melee crown gives incorrect HP [b]IThis has been covered to be from the Max HP Boost trait.

Wrong again Nynja. It was pointed out that the melee gaiters behave correctly and add the correct amount of HP whereas the crown behaves incorrectly according to the description. If it was a max HP boost trait screwing things up the gaiters would be off as well.

My thought is that this is a discrepency on the description text. Someone pull up a Melee Crown in japanese to see if they did the description correctly in that language maybe?

See this thread for why I believe this is the issue:

http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=112539

[Nny]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

[Sylvrdragon]

2 Things in Dynamis-Jeuno

The group of mobs that spawn directly in front of the Mog House after you kill the boss. The first time you aggro them, they act normally, but if you wipe to them, they never fully reset possitions. They all return to their spots, but their legs keep moving as though they are walking and they kinda bounce up and down as a group. You kinda have to see it to believe it. Also, I hear that if you aggro them after the glitched reset, they will link the entire zone automatically.

Unable to target dead people after the reset glitch. I was dead and the WHM that was still in the zone could not /target me, could not tab me, and couldn't even see me on screen. I eventually did get raised by someone else that COULD see me, but there was someone else dead next to me. After I got up, I could target them just fine, I stepped a bit farther away and they dissapeared from my screen and I couldn't /target them or anything. Eventually after moving around to various areas, he finally popped back up on my screen and I was able to select him. The WHM however never could target either one of us and dropped his hourglass before we could figure anything out.

[Lockecole]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

You don't tank Tiamat by meleeing? WAR/NIN just holds hate with initial WS, and Trick Attacks/Provokes? I know you guys use WAR/NIN alot, so I was just wondering how you do it without offensively tanking him.

[NynJa]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

[Russta]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

Because they couldn't hit a cows ass with a barn door and don't have shadows? It's been said it doesn't show up in the log.

[NynJa]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

Because they couldn't hit a cows ass with a barn door and don't have shadows? It's been said it doesn't show up in the log.

I'm sure that in the 2 years genbu has been around, atleast one pld would have noticed randomly losing 300 hp. Or perhaps those linkshells who still have people actually melee genbu randomly losing damage when meleeing genbu from the front 180 degree angle.

[NynJa]

BP's are free durring astral flow, with the exception of the one BP that gets unlocked durring 2hr.

[Hirronimus]

/waits for it...

[Hirronimus]

Thank you! /nod Elphaba

[NynJa]

Sorry, I'm not a fruity summoner like you hirro :D

I recall one of my LS summoners saying "astral flow and take advantage of free BP's" when we werent in a good position.

[Lockecole]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

Because they couldn't hit a cows ass with a barn door and don't have shadows? It's been said it doesn't show up in the log.

I'm sure that in the 2 years genbu has been around, atleast one pld would have noticed randomly losing 300 hp. Or perhaps those linkshells who still have people actually melee genbu randomly losing damage when meleeing genbu from the front 180 degree angle.

Ummm did you miss the 4 people stating they've meleed Genbu and lost shadows for no reason? I've taken massive damage and lost shadows from Genbu for no reason at all. There was 0 chance I had hate as WAR/NIN just fucking around trying to hit for higher then 0. Therefore it could be nothing but counter. The issue is that there's no text. I'm sure the reason you don't hear about it, is because people don't care enough to mention it, or make a new post about it, until a topic like this comes up, where several people have come out and said it.

[NynJa]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

Because they couldn't hit a cows ass with a barn door and don't have shadows? It's been said it doesn't show up in the log.

I'm sure that in the 2 years genbu has been around, atleast one pld would have noticed randomly losing 300 hp. Or perhaps those linkshells who still have people actually melee genbu randomly losing damage when meleeing genbu from the front 180 degree angle.

Ummm did you miss the 4 people stating they've meleed Genbu and lost shadows for no reason? I've taken massive damage and lost shadows from Genbu for no reason at all. There was 0 chance I had hate as WAR/NIN just fucking around trying to hit for higher then 0. Therefore it could be nothing but counter. The issue is that there's no text. I'm sure the reason you don't hear about it, is because people don't care enough to mention it, or make a new post about it, until a topic like this comes up, where several people have come out and said it.

I've melee'd genbu PLENTY of times as thf/sam (No shadows, and I dont bother putting third eye up) and not once have I randomly taken damage.

You've seen how bad lag can affect the chat log (*cue vudoodoodoo doing 8 rampages to fafnir after fafnir had died*). For all you know, it could have been turtle stomps/head butt showing up late (cone WS that takes shadows, forget which one it is), or water breath showing up late.

[Lockecole]

[quote=NynJa]

Genbu DEFFINATLY has counter, I know that as a fact. Have a Ridill WAR offensively haste tank him, it makes Genbu look like he has Hundred Fists on.

I can't say for a fact that Tiamat has counter since I've never offensively tanked him., but I'm pretty positive he does.

If Genbu has counter, how come no PLD's have ever witnessed it ??

Because they couldn't hit a cows ass with a barn door and don't have shadows? It's been said it doesn't show up in the log.

I'm sure that in the 2 years genbu has been around, atleast one pld would have noticed randomly losing 300 hp. Or perhaps those linkshells who still have people actually melee genbu randomly losing damage when meleeing genbu from the front 180 degree angle.

Ummm did you miss the 4 people stating they've meleed Genbu and lost shadows for no reason? I've taken massive damage and lost shadows from Genbu for no reason at all. There was 0 chance I had hate as WAR/NIN just fucking around trying to hit for higher then 0. Therefore it could be nothing but counter. The issue is that there's no text. I'm sure the reason you don't hear about it, is because people don't care enough to mention it, or make a new post about it, until a topic like this comes up, where several people have come out and said it.

I've melee'd genbu PLENTY of times as thf/sam (No shadows, and I dont bother putting third eye up) and not once have I randomly taken damage.

You've seen how bad lag can affect the chat log (*cue vudoodoodoo doing 8 rampages to fafnir after fafnir had died*).[/quote:212e7]

You're also aware in order to counter something, you have to hit it first. Perhaps its because your evasion is so high, that he's not hitting you in order to counter. Do you always attack from the front as a THF? I know I dont, I normally attack from behind a mob when I fight it as THF especially.

For all you know, it could have been turtle stomps/head butt showing up late (cone WS that takes shadows, forget which one it is), or water breath showing up late

And yet with Vudoodoodoo's SS it was obvious. Everyone here that's stating these things has been playing this game for 3+ years, and the slightest discrepancy in chat log or damage, you notice. I've been NIN, WAR and THF 95% of the time I've played this game, probably spend 75% of my time tanking a mob in one shape or form. When something's out of the ordinary, or you take damage for reasons you just can't figure out, it STANDS OUT.

[NynJa]

You're also aware in order to counter something, you have to hit it first. Perhaps its because your evasion is so high, that he's not hitting you in order to counter. Do you always attack from the front as a THF? I know I dont, I normally attack from behind a mob when I fight it as THF especially.

I move behind when my SA timer is up, which is every minute.
Dont call up on thf evasion for this. Its not THAT good, especially to gods / real HNM's.

And yet with Vudoodoodoo's SS it was obvious. Everyone here that's stating these things has been playing this game for 3+ years, and the slightest discrepancy in chat log or damage, you notice. I've been NIN, WAR and THF 95% of the time I've played this game, probably spend 75% of my time tanking a mob in one shape or form. When something's out of the ordinary, or you take damage for reasons you just can't figure out, it STANDS OUT.

Do your PLD's tank genbu without meleeing ??
Like I said:
In the past 2 (its 3 I guess?) years Genbu has been around, not ONE pld has mentionned having random HP drops. Dont call up on shitty pld accuracy, because even if you hit for 0's you can get coutnered.