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    I have the PC version and never use that windower. I have no problem logging out of the game when I want to look something up. I think its kind of like cheating and it also helps people use bots like mr argus and others. If it was ever broken and people quit I wouldn't care cuase it would mean lot less cheating in this game which would be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi
    I have the PC version and never use that windower. I have no problem logging out of the game when I want to look something up. I think its kind of like cheating and it also helps people use bots like mr argus and others. If it was ever broken and people quit I wouldn't care cuase it would mean lot less cheating in this game which would be good.
    Yah, changing the channel on PS2 while waiting for that 10mins airship isnt cheating, while looking at a website while in the same scenario on a windowed PC is cheating. Ok!!!!!

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    If you look at the Stanislav topic he tells people to download windower cause the voke bots require it. I don't see how this isn't cheating. If there was no windower people like him couldn't cheat.

    Also changing the channel on PS2 and using another PC isn't cheating cause it doesn't alter the game. I find myself using my other PC sometimes cause I didn't want to log out. But its not altering the FFXI game like that windower does.

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    There are bots that dont require windower.

    And about the 'keyloggers' go fucking right ahead and steal my acc! Break me from the pain and addiction known as FFXI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi
    If you look at the Stanislav topic he tells people to download windower cause the voke bots require it. I don't see how this isn't cheating. If there was no windower people like him couldn't cheat.
    I'm pretty sure people that want to cheat badly enough will find a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foustian
    Me and my friend got this last night actually. It was from a guy named Jerle. I'm pretty sure I'm not on his Friend List, though, cuz I've never heard of the guy before. He sent us a link to Mr_Argus.zip, which we were both sure was a keylogger or some sort of virus.

    Yes, that is not the real jerle. The old jerle used to be in my LS and He got hacked and since he lives in SG, It was near impossible to get he account back due to SE and their gayness. The hacker changed the credit card information etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawk
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi
    If you look at the Stanislav topic he tells people to download windower cause the voke bots require it. I don't see how this isn't cheating. If there was no windower people like him couldn't cheat.
    I'm pretty sure people that want to cheat badly enough will find a way.
    Although it's true that there are botters rampant in endgame, i think that 95% of the people that use Windower use it totally for it's intended purpose of windowing and fuckin sexy macros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi
    If you look at the Stanislav topic he tells people to download windower cause the voke bots require it. I don't see how this isn't cheating. If there was no windower people like him couldn't cheat.
    Are you that fucking braindead to think if there was no windower, people couldn't cheat?

    Go back to Allakhazam, there's plenty of people like you there.

    Edit: As for Daahan's question, the Geocities site had maxed out its bandwidth, hence the reason he couldn't download it.

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    Imagine if this was SE's way of weeding out botters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    Imagine if this was SE's way of weeding out botters...
    There is nothing more effective then undercover work. When good guys go 'bad' to weed out the bad; really is one of the best ways to deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    Imagine if this was SE's way of weeding out botters...
    Hey, they limited outbox to 1mil gil to stop sellers! That was a GREAT idea!




    also :3

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    My knowledge of key loggers are not that expansive, but I don't type a single key logging into a POL and FFXI. How exactly would I get hacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    My knowledge of key loggers are not that expansive, but I don't type a single key logging into a POL and FFXI. How exactly would I get hacked?
    If you dont type anything, then you cant get 'hacked', if someone got your pass, then it isnt a keylogger. You need to type something for a keylogger to work, anything else would be a trojan.

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    Yeah I got this tell from Jerle yesterday also. (but this guy aint on my friends list!) Some son-of-a-bitch trying to gank my shit...

    I sent him a /tell back saying lol, but he was "away" ~ so didn't bother to investigate further, Thank god!

    On a side note: I was looking for a brd to exp with and Zarustratha's search comment (spelled wrong? brd -75) said:
    "Makochild fucking lame" I thought that was pretty funny but after reading this post it all makes sense now.

    If I lost my mnk, it woulda been curtains.

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    Anyone that's going to go to a site and download shit to bot NMs deserves to get thier account hacked and deleted. BTW anyone remember this guy that posted a geocities Mr Argus link and had like 3 pages of "Ban him"? Tried to find that link but I guess I missed it. Could be the same guy

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    Anyone that's going to go to a site and download shit to bot NMs deserves to get thier account hacked and deleted
    Exactly. Nobody gets "hacked." You were just a fuckhead and downloaded something that clearly you shouldn't have. People need to stop acting like victims here - it was only through your own stupidity that you lost your account.

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    Well, i'll admit that it was curiousity that got the best of me. I was real tired that day when a LS mate told me that he got that link in a tell. I went to it to see if it actually download something. Sure enough there was a zip. I opened the zip but not the .exe in side it so there's something on the zip.

    My account wasnt hacked until the next day, called SE and they said cause my CC didnt match what was currently on the account, they couldnt do anything.

    Gonna call them again with my bank statements in hand.

    so, whoever is spreading that link, isnt me. I'm in the process of trying to get my account back but not sure if I can.

    Also, I have never botted, Sono used to be in the sam LS as me (Fantajii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makochild
    Well, i'll admit that it was curiousity that got the best of me. I was real tired that day when a LS mate told me that he got that link in a tell. I went to it to see if it actually download something. Sure enough there was a zip. I opened the zip but not the .exe in side it so there's something on the zip.

    My account wasnt hacked until the next day, called SE and they said cause my CC didnt match what was currently on the account, they couldnt do anything.

    Gonna call them again with my bank statements in hand.
    G'luck man, i dont want those [hellboy] rings to go to waste!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellboy
    Quote Originally Posted by Makochild
    Well, i'll admit that it was curiousity that got the best of me. I was real tired that day when a LS mate told me that he got that link in a tell. I went to it to see if it actually download something. Sure enough there was a zip. I opened the zip but not the .exe in side it so there's something on the zip.

    My account wasnt hacked until the next day, called SE and they said cause my CC didnt match what was currently on the account, they couldnt do anything.

    Gonna call them again with my bank statements in hand.
    G'luck man, i dont want those [hellboy] rings to go to waste!
    anything of value has already been sold :/

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    Well, i'll admit that it was curiousity that got the best of me.
    Curiosity kills the cat....

    Every fucking time.

    My account wasnt hacked until the next day
    Nobody hacked your account - you just gave them the password. As if they "hacked" the system and obtained your stored password? You make it sound as if somebody else is the mean criminal culprit here.

    That's not the case - you're just a fuckhead for downloading a keylogger that was supposedly a bot. You win the prize. Curiosity? Curious why? Why download if you don't have intent to use? If you had no intent to try it out - you would never have touched that shit.

    It's like somebody claiming that just because they are "curious" doesn't mean that they are gay. No - you're fucking gay. Heterosexual people aren't "curious."

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