Job Adjustments

[Awoir]

I merited in sky with a DRK/NIN with Adaberk, Maneater/Kclub, Ace's Helm, Homam Feet/Legs, Pcc, Brutal, Vamp earring, etc. He put up 1000+ rampages consistantly (2x/fight normally) and with souleater they easily broke 1600.

Scythe sucks, until you realize that dual wielding is better than scythe, gtfo

[Maxxthepenguin]

Yes, DRK/NIN with all that stuff will outdamage a drk/war scythe wielder

[Razz]

Scythe doesn't suck, I got all my STR, crit, enmity etc merits with drk/nin scythe (well most) with 1400 guillotines, 320 criticals. DRK/WAR has better DPS and TP gain but way too much hate making it an mp sponge, not worth it.

I would do maneater/kraken combo but I refuse to shell out 130m+ for it. It is better than scythe currently, but by no means would I call scythe "gimp". Atleast not with my setup.

Hopefully the job update makes scythe the number one merit weapon for DRKs. Using B rated weapons is silly :/

[Maxxthepenguin]

Scythe doesn't suck, I got all my STR, crit, enmity etc merits with drk/nin scythe (well most) with 1400 guillotines, 320 criticals. DRK/WAR has better DPS and TP gain but way too much hate making it an mp sponge, not worth it.

I would do maneater/kraken combo but I refuse to shell out 130m+ for it. It is better than scythe currently, but by no means would I call scythe "gimp". Atleast not with my setup.

Hopefully the job update makes scythe the number one merit weapon for DRKs. Using B rated weapons is silly :/

Thank you. And as far as DRK/WAR, I'm hoping to get my hands on a Novia earring (somehow...). Already have a Patroclus helm. -12 Enmity could help a LOT, and you don't sacrifice TOO much.

[Xavier]

more like 600 Rampages to 800 Guillotines

Case in point, you party with gimp wars. I haven't done a 600 rampage since lv 59, outside of missing the majority of the hits.

[Hirronimus]

Cross Reaper is sexy looking.

[Amarok]

WARs hitting 1400 with Mighty Strikes is gimp. When I did parties with Xav as DRK/NIN using Ridill/Maneater the WARs were hitting 1600+ with MS and I was hitting 1400-1600 rampages with Souleater on deco weapons.

[Heian]

Sorry Max you're wrong again. I WAR and NIN burn with WARs in Adaman Haub, Ridill and capped merits on a regular basis. They consitantly hit 1K Rampages on Deco Weapons in sky. Mighty Strikes Rampage with full TP return can easily break 1400. DRK DoT fails horribly, no matter what you do you cannot keep up. What part of that do you not understand?

EDIT: Xavier please ban him. I feel that another Angelkitty is upon us.

I don't exp with those regularly, thus why I don't see that. Do you exp with DRKs with capped merits? I doubt it. So wheres the fair comparison? Plus guillotine souleater regularly breaks 1400 too but its a stupid comparison, since a good time to use it is almost as rare as when you can use mighty strikes rampage. DRK DoT does not fail horribly as DRK/WAR. Seriously, send a BG scout to Unicorn or something and I can show you.

Also, I'm not out to prove DRK > all. Just that DRK is not a load of shit that is useless. You guys seem to think that if something tends to outdamage something else the something else is useless, always. I'm just saying thats not true, and that, for some reason, pisses you off to no end.


And seriously, you want me banned because I stick to my experiences as much as you do to yours?

No the point I am making is that with the best gear WARs break 1K Rampages easy, with normal to good gear they hit way more than the 600 you say.

Yes on HNM DRK does have good WS damage but the problem is that it takes fucking forever for a DRK to get enough TP to WS, but for EXP 99% of the time they are not going to have the DoT to be effecient.

[Heian]

WARs hitting 1400 with Mighty Strikes is gimp. When I did parties with Xav as DRK/NIN using Ridill/Maneater the WARs were hitting 1600+ with MS and I was hitting 1400-1600 rampages with Souleater on deco weapons.

I was being conservative on the damage but even on his NIN our DoT was the same but he smoked me on Blade: Jins. My best Jin that I can recall is 1189, a crit or two with two double attacks, sole sushi, Minuet and Berserk. I had a 14% TP return.

[Maxxthepenguin]

No the point I am making is that with the best gear WARs break 1K Rampages easy, with normal to good gear they hit way more than the 600 you say.

Yes on HNM DRK does have good WS damage but the problem is that it takes fucking forever for a DRK to get enough TP to WS, but for EXP 99% of the time they are not going to have the DoT to be effecient.

Sadly, BRDs are rare on Unicorn, so when I say 600 I mean without bard.

Actually DRK's normal hits are very worthwhile on HNMs with souleater up, and given its a 6m cooldown unmerited, but it can be cycled in and out similar to MNKs or BLMs or just left in to do damage like a normal melee while cooling down.

[Viq]

I doubt BRDs are rare, we all just prefer getting real exp (see: U.range and KRT)

[Heian]

No the point I am making is that with the best gear WARs break 1K Rampages easy, with normal to good gear they hit way more than the 600 you say.

Yes on HNM DRK does have good WS damage but the problem is that it takes fucking forever for a DRK to get enough TP to WS, but for EXP 99% of the time they are not going to have the DoT to be effecient.

Sadly, BRDs are rare on Unicorn, so when I say 600 I mean without bard.

Actually DRK's normal hits are very worthwhile on HNMs with souleater up, and given its a 6m cooldown unmerited, but it can be cycled in and out similar to MNKs or BLMs or just left in to do damage like a normal melee while cooling down.

Wasted spots, why use DRKs when you can use SAMs who will get TP alot faster and can make any desired Renkei for BLMs to MB, while giving the same benefit of SA or SATA WS. Its just not effecient. Again unless you have the best possible gear you are either going to be a stunner or a wasted spot.

EDIT: Oh and about not having BRDs, I break 600 Jins without BRD.

[Pawky]

Sadly, BRDs are rare on Unicorn, so when I say 600 I mean without bard.

you shouldnt need a BRD to break 600

[Maxxthepenguin]

Sadly, BRDs are rare on Unicorn, so when I say 600 I mean without bard.

you shouldnt need a BRD to break 600

Consistently, for a non-fully pimped WAR, in uleguerand, it seems so

[Hirronimus]

STFU about DRK already. Let's talk about other jobs for a change. Jeez!

[Maxxthepenguin]

STFU about DRK already. Let's talk about other jobs for a change. Jeez!

So...how about those DRGs

[Hirronimus]

Fuck DRGs, fuck DRKs and fuck you. PLD Auto-Refresh is where it's at. Haste II for RDM along with Reflect and I'm a happy camper.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Fuck DRGs, fuck DRKs and fuck you. PLD Auto-Refresh is where it's at. Haste II for RDM along with Reflect and I'm a happy camper.

Ok...so...not DRG...not DRK...RNG?

Oh and if they implement reflect... well the ugg pendant nm would be a lot easier

[Hirronimus]

While I respect Peter Stormare as an actor, you avatar does him horrible justice. PLease remove it.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Bring back the murderous penguin?