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    I would say Ballad II only, Minuet X 2, any maybe one Madrigal since all good PLD WSs are multihit.

    Edit: Joyeuse/Justice sword? I've always been told that best main hand sword for PLD excluding Excalibur was Company Sword in a full PT. So wouldn't Company Sword/Joyeuse(Or Justice) be a better option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon
    I would say Ballad II only, Minuet X 2, any maybe one Madrigal since all good PLD WSs are multihit.

    Edit: Joyeuse/Justice sword? I've always been told that best main hand sword for PLD excluding Excalibur was Company Sword in a full PT. So wouldn't Company Sword/Joyeuse(Or Justice) be a better option?
    Additional attacks is better than the amount of DMG increase into company sword.

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    Justice is better than Joyeuse when you have double attack.. since Justice does 2x hit and stacks with DA, while Joy doesn't stack. Not sure how they compare as PLD/NIN (would need brutal earring for justice then), but I am pretty sure Justice has higher base dmg.. just the annoyance of virtue stones is the only thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternus
    Justice is better than Joyeuse when you have double attack.. since Justice does 2x hit and stacks with DA, while Joy doesn't stack. Not sure how they compare as PLD/NIN (would need brutal earring for justice then), but I am pretty sure Justice has higher base dmg.. just the annoyance of virtue stones is the only thing.
    Justice actually has 1 less damage then Joyeuse (Justice34/236 STR+7, Joyeuse 35/224).

    "Losing" the ranged slot for Virtue stones isn't that major for PLD. The only options PLD really had in that slot otherwise for DDing is like Lightning Bow+1 (Elvaan or Humes could use their RSE Ammo, or if you're rich/lucky Arco).

    PLD/NIN with Joyuese/Justice is awesome, both weapons have around a 50% proc rate so the only job that's really going to be TPing faster than you (assuming you have some kind of haste gear) is going to be a WAR with Ridill/Joyeuse. The only thing that sucks is WSs are kind of gimpy since both weapons have pretty low base damage (though the STR+7 with Justice can help make up for this)

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    Too bad your going to just put it all in storage but the gloves >.>
    Gloves are the thing i'd put in storage for charming. I dunno why people ignore the AF2 hat (+5 CHR +5charm).

    I personally just wear all my AF2 for charming, and leave AF1 in storage. I'll mischarm a little more, but my rate is decent enough. Only thing I am missing is a HQ light staff, and Melody +1's, but the last thing I need right now is 2x Inventory -1

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    I think that pld was using a company sword in his main hand in that pic which I've heard does great DoT with justice sword. Company doesn't get double attack but 56 base dmg more than makes up for that imo.

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    I just use panther mask and save a slot. +charm is kinda pointless unless you really like charming T or VT without 2 hour. I don't use melody earrings because it saves space and +4 to +20 chr doesn't do jack past around 100 total char for anything you normally charm.

    I'm pretty sure that there is a fixed MC rate like crafting and everything else, and +30 chr with a light staff will pretty much get you to your max charm rate on EM and DC.

    I don't have the af2 gloves or hat yet, I've never seen either drop >.>; It's not like anyone else would lot them anyway <.<

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    Pld can easily out perform any 2handed dd in merit pts, provided they are willing to shell out the money for a build they normally wouldn't otherwise get to use.
    I wouldn't be suprised if joyeuse + virtue sword out DoT's axe/axe wars, either.

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    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    I just use panther mask and save a slot. +charm is kinda pointless unless you really like charming T or VT without 2 hour. I don't use melody earrings because it saves space and +4 to +20 chr doesn't do jack past around 100 total char for anything you normally charm.

    I'm pretty sure that there is a fixed MC rate like crafting and everything else, and +30 chr with a light staff will pretty much get you to your max charm rate on EM and DC.

    I don't have the af2 gloves or hat yet, I've never seen either drop >.>; It's not like anyone else would lot them anyway <.<
    Hmm I dont have a panther, didnt think of that one yet. Yeah +Charm seems useless, but alot of the time I go exploring as rdm/bst, trust me you will notice it when you dont have +charm

    Hands seem pretty poop, I dont notice much of an increase in the call beast enhancement, what I did notice was my pet scored much more critical hits than usual. I need to get SE to tell us what this trait meant, since there's such minimal increase, and nothing to do with recasts.

    Body/Feet are great items to use with Reward, aswell as if you get Ogre gloves, and Bison Warbonnet, +big reward, and the hat acts like merits, lowers recast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
    I wish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
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    THE SHUTTING THE FUCK UP INCLUDES YOU MAXX"TALKS TOO MUCH" PENGUIN kthx

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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
    I wish
    THE SHUTTING THE FUCK UP INCLUDES YOU MAXX"TALKS TOO MUCH" PENGUIN kthx
    ...wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
    Done. Can I talk now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
    I wish
    THE SHUTTING THE FUCK UP INCLUDES YOU MAXX"TALKS TOO MUCH" PENGUIN kthx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Janice
    Can everyone please max their merits so everyone can shut up?
    I wish
    THE SHUTTING THE FUCK UP INCLUDES YOU MAXX"TALKS TOO MUCH" PENGUIN kthx
    Ish I don't know you but I like your style.

    After some more meriting and getting a couple more peices of gear for PLD (Beacudine Please), I am going to drag my PLD to a couple burn PTs and see what numbers the parser shows. I know I can do better than alotfo the WARs and NINs I have PT'd with before, but I'll have to get the data on hand before I can say much more.

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    Heian, lemme know when you wanna burn with PLD. I'll XP with ya... I'd like to see what PLD can really do myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suds
    Heian, lemme know when you wanna burn with PLD. I'll XP with ya... I'd like to see what PLD can really do myself.
    Just finished talking to seph/aedan in vent about it, going to try out a PLD burn tomorrow sometime. Defeintly will send you a tell.

    PS when Aedan runs his parser it has a latent effect of Aedan coming last everytime.

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