Job Adjustments

[Awoir]

You do realize Mazurka wears off once you hit or get hit by monster, right? RIGHT?

If you're in Aery mazurka has no effect and you keep the marches on, but you still get hate from the mazurka.

[DeliriumII]

if they want whm to be better healers, this sharing hp/mp doesnt seem the way to go. I mean, I use enough mp on my whm I dont want to give some up to another class. I would like to see if they could maybe buff the barsleepra and shit like that so it would maybe work a bit. I guess the only other thing would be to make whm cures cost less mp than other classes, but I doubt that would happen

[Hirronimus]

Honestly I didn't know that about Mazurka.

[Blitzen]

if they want whm to be better healers, this sharing hp/mp doesnt seem the way to go. I mean, I use enough mp on my whm I dont want to give some up to another class. I would like to see if they could maybe buff the barsleepra and shit like that so it would maybe work a bit. I guess the only other thing would be to make whm cures cost less mp than other classes, but I doubt that would happen

Or go the other way and give them Cure Potency traits (2-3 would be nifty), possibly meritable, to get more out of their MP. And do make the barstatus shit worthwhile

[Daahan]

Bard
There is a tendency for bards to only sing particular songs in the party and nothing else. We want to make it so bards have many types of useful songs with which to aid their party. For example, we might add a low-level song that, when sung, would increase party movement speed--like a weaker version of the Chocobo Mazurka.

So they dislike that Bards only sing the best songs in a party (Minuet, Madrigal, March and Ballad) and are going to fix it by giving us more useless stuff such as a low level Mazurka..? Maybe they don't realize that movement speed while smashing a mobs face in isn't better and that it wears off when a mob hits you (or vice-versa) anyway. What we need is the ability to put a third song on the party but limit us to what it is. Minuet, March and have the third song limited to say Capriccio or Fantasia would be a good way to fix it. They could also fix stuff by giving the bullshit songs a Hymnus style cast time and making them work better. Jailer of Faith casting Breakga? No problem, just throw up an instant cast Capriccio that actually works and you have your job destroying issue with Bards fixed!!

I do laugh at them wanting to make Monk and Warrior better though, as if they aren't already too good. Be interesting to see how they work though;

Monk uses RaiseEveryonesMaxHP.
Everyone's Max HP raises 300 points.
<White Mage> OH SHIT ORANGE HP THIS SKELETON IS RAPING ME!!1

Warrior throws his Juggernaut but misses the Decorative Weapon.
<Warrior> OH SHIT MY 28MIL JUGGERNAUT GONE!!1

brd idea is brilliant, i agree all the way
I don't think i have ever used things like capriccio or fantasia once since i learned them, at least not seriously

[draxyl]

Yup, russta's idea actually makes sense...and you'd probably use it for normal mobs, or even NM/HNM that spam a nasty aoe status effect. As it is, some of those status effect songs (resist sleep/silence) are somewhat useful in ballista/brenner, but thats about it.

Anyone have a link to the topic on brd/nin tanking HNM through mazurka/march spam? I looked with search for the past 30 mins and can't find it...my LS is starting to use it, and I just wanted to get some others ideas on the topic. Wondering if most bard's go haste gears for this 100%, or just macro them in for recast and wear -% dmg gear or +hp +def gears.

[shuyjin]

wtf can they possible do to dark knight to make it better besides absorb-tp?? light > darkness endgame skillchains so unless they buff up different sc's its a waste of update space... just change the 2-hour to 100% accuracy.

[NynJa]

wtf is capriccio and opretta ??
I bought it only so my spell list would be all green.

[Hirronimus]

Go into magic menu, select the spell, move your eyes up and read the god damn discription. Have a nice day!

[Awoir]

wtf is capriccio and opretta ??
I bought it only so my spell list would be all green.

Capriccio = resist petrify
Operetta = resist silence

[NynJa]

I was being sarcastic >.>

[Awoir]

I have good accuracy with my songs so when I get one of those PTs with a DRG in full AF and NQ amemet proclaiming he is the end-all be-all of DD excellence, I make sure he gets useless songs because he doesn't need any damage boost, wouldn't want my tanks losing hate.

[Dezzimal]

I have good accuracy with my songs so when I get one of those PTs with a DRG in full AF and NQ amemet proclaiming he is the end-all be-all of DD excellence, I make sure he gets useless songs because he doesn't need any damage boost, wouldn't want my tanks losing hate.

Hey I <3 my NQ amemet.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I have good accuracy with my songs so when I get one of those PTs with a DRG in full AF and NQ amemet proclaiming he is the end-all be-all of DD excellence, I make sure he gets useless songs because he doesn't need any damage boost, wouldn't want my tanks losing hate.

Hey I <3 my NQ amemet.

What are you besides BLM? I only ever see you as BLM...

[FFXIFlux]

wtf is capriccio and opretta ??
I bought it only so my spell list would be all green.

Capriccio is that thing that will make petrify wear off almost instantly and can let you have XP parties against petrifying mobs without having a white mage, like Lufaise Meadows thief parties.

[Hellboy]

Black Mage
We recognize that black mage is a very powerful job. We see that a lot of players are forming parties with just black mages, and we would like to change that. We do not plan to weaken the job, but we want to create benefits for partying with other jobs. We are also considering adding new magic to the black mages’ repertoire.

does anything else even matter other than this? lol

[Gregorio]

brd idea is brilliant, i agree all the way
I don't think i have ever used things like capriccio or fantasia once since i learned them, at least not seriously

Operetta and Aubade are actually useful in ballista when you don't bring tons of echo drops/poison potions. :D But I'd still rather have march or minuet x2 and do a lil damage.

A while ago when I was still kinda a noobish bard, I remember fighting Serket and trying Pastoral to avoid his strong/annoying poison, but that didn't work. Cappriccio doesn't work during the Ronstradumstradum Pumps runs. Hell, aubade doesn't even work vs the mandys in Yhoator. If these songs were at least effective some of the time they might be semi-useful.

[Francisco]

"we want WHM to be the best healers" ... "we're thinking of an ability that lets WHM give away their MP".

BRILLIANT! Because aside from tossing Cure 4/5 the only other use for MP in the game is Thundaga 3/bloodpact, so WHM will be turned into fucking MP batteries for BLM. Wonderful. No one will ever want to play WHM again.

Cool... now I have an excuse to AFK during the bullshit HNM fights. "Eh, I just gave the other WHM all my MP... afk 20 minutes."

I'm sorry did someone say MNK needs improving?

- Pay your dues
- Attain 75
- Get told to go to your mog and switch to a useful job because we're not raiding Vtra today
- delevel your WHM to 65, toss your AF, sell your noble's and blessed gear for a peacock charm and never deal with it again

Fixed.

Fixed x2.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Wait wait wait, people are complaining that their jobs are gaining abilities?

[Janice]

They don't have to give whm anything new. Just let them cast Regen, bar spells, erase outside of a party and everything will be ok.

But of course, none on these changes are with endgame in mind. They are made for xp partying so it will be interesting how they can fuck up endgame with their changes.