Job Adjustments

[Onizuka]

Doesn't the Homan set give darks a lot of haste? I also believe that darks have access to dusk gear where monks do not.

Extending soul-eater duration would also over power any dark with a k-club.

All drks have 300mil just laying about.. well the same 300gil would over power a brd with relic horn now wouldn't it..

I mentioned dusk, i said 20-30mil belt(speed belt) 3mil hands(dusk) pants(dusk) but adaman is still better cause if i have a 528 delay weapon i would rather hit for 30+ more dmg have more acc+ and have my ws's do more dmg than have a meesly +3 haste. I was actually thinking about getting dusk hands for drk but if haste isen't pailed on it doesn't do much.

End to end all if you like drk just lvl blm and war to 75, rather spend the time lvling 2 jobs to 75 than have 1 worthless 1. Well you can easily lvl blm and war to 75 in half the time it would take you to take drk to 75 plus you wont suck at the end..

[Awoir]

Doesn't the Homan set give darks a lot of haste? I also believe that darks have access to dusk gear where monks do not.

Extending soul-eater duration would also over power any dark with a k-club.

drk is a melee with 2 abilitys 1 crap 1 good and a 2hr that sucks balls, Blood weapon should be 1min long so when using with souleater it can finally make some fucking sense Rolling Eyes

PS: Would it hurt to give drk some fucking haste gear... give the jobs who hit every 1.5 seconds a bunch of haste(mnk/nin/thf) and the job that has the highest delay weapoin in the game(which you want them to use so badly) gets a 20mil belt and 3mil hands and legs that don't add shit but a lil haste making it not worth it..

[rahvin]

Doesn't the Homan set give darks a lot of haste? I also believe that darks have access to dusk gear where monks do not.

Extending soul-eater duration would also over power any dark with a k-club.

bc so many darks will actually obtain a k-club

[Demetrios]

epigram wrote:
Maxx no one likes reading your posts because:

1.) Your retarded avataar and sig.
2.) You point out the obvious that people can just search for.
3.) Your one or two posts of merit do not make up your 2000 that have no merit.
4.) You seem to crave acceptance that no one is going to give to you.
5.) You post just to increase post count.
6.) If you value your time, you don't value tav and sea hnm. It's not that hard to figure this out.


Just because you're ignorant on how to properly farm sea is no reason to hate on it ^_^

No demetrios, you have lots of play time so your value per unit of play time is much lower than others. Many people have other events that take up the entire evening so having people go out and exp in sea for pop items isn't something that can easily be worked in their schedule. Throw in all the other events and giving people free time to do other things besides exp or do hnm and the relative value of a minor gain for one blm and a few melee seems pretty damn inconsequential.

So the value per unit time is quite low in sea, so it only obtains value for those with low value per unit time. I don't know what "hate on it" means, I can only derive that you are implying that I find it a waste of time, and I am entitled to my own opinion.

A more eloquent refute would be of the order:

For those of us who have already aquired all items in the game sea provides us with the greatest cost per effort.

Yes Altruist, Paimei does not know how to effectively farm sea (^_^)

You have an extremely limited clue as to what kind of work it takes to get a full JoL pop set. After farming 3.5 JoL pop sets, I've come to the conclusion that it's not all that more tedious than sky. The rewards are mage heavy, but guess what job class was most rewarded from Sky =P.

[Amarok]

Mifaco is just upset he still used AF1 body at level 75 DRK.

I think you're confusing me with Inzmail. I had Hauberk/geon since lv64; I never used AF1 body except for showing off.

and maxx, i agree with what epigram said. Level a real job to 75, thx

Damn you're right I was.

[Maxxthepenguin]

DRK is far from worthless as is, it could use a buff but is very very useful. I know you all don't understand how, but I have done good things with it. There are issues, but a damage increase on the scythe will balance things out unless its miniscule. Let a DRK sub WAR in Uleguerand Range. Have the NIN/WARs and WAR/NINs voke (takes no extra time, just helps things) and things will work. The DRK of course needs good gear, an eye for hate, and brains.

On HNMs, we are the only melee that, given the opportunity to hit it, guarantees good damage (unless it has Phys Damage Down -% ). And we have enough ACC gear to hit most mobs. Oh and you don't need a KClub or even Ridill to make it worthwhile (it makes it much better though.) Just use a sword, which we have enough skill in to hit with.

I wish you were on my server so I could show you, but unless somebody on my server wants to try it with me, I cant.

[nivlakian]

on that note would it hurt to give drk warp n haste-.-'

I've never understood the DRK obsession with having warp...

[epigram]

k-club is 90-150mil gil on most servers, stage 5 relic horn costs about 750mil to 1bil gil.

Homam Zucchetto
THF/PLD/DRK/DRG
HP+22 MP+22 Accuracy+4 Magic Accuracy+4 Haste+3%

Homam Corazza
THF/PLD/DRK/DRG
HP+28 MP+28 Accuracy+15 Enhances "Triple Attack" effect

Homam Manopolas
THF/PLD/DRK/DRG
HP+20 MP+20 Accuracy+4 Enmity+3 Haste+3%

Homam Cosciales 75 35
THF/PLD/DRK/DRG
HP+26 MP+26 Accuracy+3 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect Haste+3%

Homam Gambieras 75 16
THF/PLD/DRK/DRG
HP+31 MP+31 Accuracy+6 Ranged Accuracy+6 Haste+3% Wyvern: HP+50

12% haste, doesn't require a bot to camp, is actually fun to get and the same acc as full adaman set. Get a brutal, eat hedgehog pie and macro in sky hecatomb and some AF+1 on ws. Get a swift belt and you have +16% haste for almost no gil investment. If you swing as drk/drg which isn't all that bad, you have +21% haste for tp gain.

With all the time that you aren't spending in Aery and all those other wonderful places you can finish all your merits, and have fun messing around with friends.

[Demetrios]

Level 5 relic horn costs you 750mil-1billion gil on Cerberus if you're Redthorn.

If you have any friends in this game you can get coins for far less than 50,000 per >.>

[draxyl]

Max, I have no clue what you were trying to say....I think we all know drk can sub war, its pretty easy - you just go into your mog house and choose the sub. Yes, drk can wear accuracy gear...this is also fairly easy to accomplish. To the best of my knowledge, you can either open up the equipement screen and equip these items or use "macro's" which allow you to switch many pieces of gear in one key stroke. I am happy that when you hit a monster at endgame you do dmg...this is especially useful for melee jobs.

You are correct though, no one on this forum has any idea how drk works...only you know the answer, please help us understand.

[layoneil]

try this for head piece instead
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7042

[Demetrios]

try this for head piece instead
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7042

the time investment / reward for ace's helm isn't enough for people who have other things to do in life!

[epigram]

Nice to see your getting it now demetrios.

[Maxxthepenguin]

try this for head piece instead
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7042

I wish, all I got is Patroclus helm, its not bad but... not that



And draxyl, its just people don't put effort into DRK anymore. Its not a grand secret. Hate control, smart stunning, zerking, smart souleatering, other spells when needed, etc. Its just that once a job is deemed crap, nobody gives it a chance and nobody puts in the effort. Well I put in the effort, and I know my job works fine. We'll see exactly what they do in the update.

[Demetrios]

Nice to see your getting it now demetrios.

Why do you even post in HNM/end game related threads now that Paimei's retired from that aspect of FFXI?

[Roranora]

KV is a ton less tedious/time-consuming/annoying than farming sea. :s

[epigram]

Well actually I haven't been in PaiMei for a month, and last I talked to someone in PaiMei (yesterday) they were reforming the ls, not disbanding or whatever. If you want to know what's going on in PaiMai so bad ask confucion.

End game is pretty nebulous so I don't think you can justify the argument that if your not into camping super rare pops, your not into end game. I level my npc, work merits, and have fun with small group NM's. It's content, it's end game, and it's fun. I also enjoy the comments of Lord Wafik and a host of others here that fills down time during program validation at work.

[Erebus]

And draxyl, its just people don't put effort into DRK anymore. Its not a grand secret. Hate control, smart stunning, zerking, smart souleatering, other spells when needed, etc. Its just that once a job is deemed crap, nobody gives it a chance and nobody puts in the effort. Well I put in the effort, and I know my job works fine. We'll see exactly what they do in the update.

Maxx, you sound just like one of those bitter drgs that pop into a discussion as soon as someone says something negative about the job and swears that they can outdamage monks in KRT or some shit.

You don't see me whining because a few people don't like my job.

[Nirokun!]

high delay burst damage...

go play smn

its tedious like drk, nobody understands us!! wahhhhemo

but but but you dont have to die because of how little hate you make (*'-')

[Maxxthepenguin]

And draxyl, its just people don't put effort into DRK anymore. Its not a grand secret. Hate control, smart stunning, zerking, smart souleatering, other spells when needed, etc. Its just that once a job is deemed crap, nobody gives it a chance and nobody puts in the effort. Well I put in the effort, and I know my job works fine. We'll see exactly what they do in the update.

Maxx, you sound just like one of those bitter drgs that pop into a discussion as soon as someone says something negative about the job and swears that they can outdamage monks in KRT or some shit.

You don't see me whining because a few people don't like my job.

I didn't bring it up...