New Job Speculation

[Hirronimus]

as for as Corsair's BLM buff, I'd rather Conserve MP be handed out than MAB. How many jobs really need MAB ?? Now consider how much more useful Conserve MP would be around the board.

Considering it would be a conventional PT, I'd have to agree with Nynja here because the only job MB is BLM.

[Maxxthepenguin]

DRG, if it gives Haste, wouldnt be 5-10%. the spell Haste gives 15% I believe, as do Marches. If anything it would be 1% or 2%.

What? Why would this be that much lower than haste and march... Its gotta give some reason to party with DRGs.

[Hirronimus]

DRG has Accuracy Bonus, I don't see no frigging Haste+% in their passive job trait list. Are you basing this Haste crap on the Lv.30 Earring?

[Genosync]

Haste=20% iirc

[Ohemgee]

WHM, so you can erase the shit you put on your members

[Hirronimus]

Haste=20% iirc

Do they get a two-handed weapon delay reduction or something?

[Maxxthepenguin]

DRG has Accuracy Bonus, I don't see no frigging Haste+% in their passive job trait list. Are you basing this Haste crap on the Lv.30 Earring?

Partially yes. For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste, no idea why, but it seems like a concept they have and frankly it would be good incentive to get them invited to merit parties. And DRG has accuracy bonus as much as it has attack bonus. RNG has much more acc bonus (its both melee AND ranged) than DRG. The problem is DRG lacks a defining job trait (like BRD.)

[nivlakian]

Haste=20% iirc

Based on recast timers, haste from WHM and RDM is 15%.

WHM, so you can erase the shit you put on your members

[Genosync]

DRG has Accuracy Bonus, I don't see no frigging Haste+% in their passive job trait list. Are you basing this Haste crap on the Lv.30 Earring?

Partially yes. For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste, no idea why, but it seems like a concept they have and frankly it would be good incentive to get them invited to merit parties. And DRG has accuracy bonus as much as it has attack bonus. RNG has much more acc bonus (its both melee AND ranged) than DRG. The problem is DRG lacks a defining job trait (like BRD.)

What the fuck are you talking about, a lot of their gear is Haste gear?

It's gear that is available to other jobs, too. Is Haste on DRG's AF? Is Haste on other gear solely available, and easily obtainable for DRG?

You say no? Oh, well then, Haste isn't a primary trait of DRG. gtfo.

And on those recast timers, I always see myself getting 8s recast on warp II with haste on, maybe that's why I think it's 20, and it's just showing 8 instead of 9 because it's 8.5 or w/e.

[nivlakian]

I haven't tested it in a while, but iirc... Haste's normal recast is 20s and if you haste yourself and watch the timer it starts at 17. Also, Raise recast gets reduced to 51s from 60.

[Hirronimus]

For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste

Drachen Set:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...chen-Armet.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...achen-Mail.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...0Gauntlets.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...chen-Brais.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...en-Greaves.jpg

Wyrm Set:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...Wyrm-Armet.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/items/wyrm_mail.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...-Gauntlets.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/items/wyrm_brais.jpg
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/it...rm-Greaves.jpg

Tell me which of these pieces has Haste+%. I think I'm going blind. I CAN'T SEE SHIT!

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well, I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%... lol
No, I'm just saying its a theme SE seems to be pushing, and frankly if they push it enough it would give DRG everything they need to be great party members.

[Hirronimus]

For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste

I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%...

You are retarded. I rest my case.

Oh and I'll add this, it boosts JOB TRAITS, not what their gear provides.

[Genosync]

Well, I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%... lol
No, I'm just saying its a theme SE seems to be pushing, and frankly if they push it enough it would give DRG everything they need to be great party members.

Do you really not know anything about this game? Every time you post, you just say stupid shit because you haven't experienced enough to make a general statement.

Bring DRG to mobs that are weak to piercing type weapons, or just mobs that have lower defense in general. They are pretty fucking good.

I had a DRG in my Lv57PT on raptors in kuftal on my MNK, and he was doing 600dmg Pentas nonstop, and hit like 850dmg with Spirit Surge. At LV57, on a mob that's pretty high damage, considering my completely pimped out and merited monk could only hit like 550dmg with Raging Fists.

[Maxxthepenguin]

For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste

I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%...

You are retarded. I rest my case.

Oh and I'll add this, it boosts JOB TRAITS, not what their gear provides.

Well DRG HAS no significant job traits. Thats why I came up with haste. No, there isn't a lot of DRG gear that's about haste, but the only themes DRG has are Jumping and Wyvern. How the FUCK can you grant bonuses to those to the rest of the party? Seriously, there are other things people have suggested that are worse than what I posted. BRP suggested enmity+ for PLD and enmity- for BRD for the entire party... what's the point of that. If everybody gets it doesn't that nullify the point? I doubt they'd add something only useful in alliances as a job defining ability.

[Genosync]

For some reason a lot of DRG gear is haste

I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%...

You are retarded. I rest my case.

Oh and I'll add this, it boosts JOB TRAITS, not what their gear provides.

Well DRG HAS no significant job traits. Thats why I came up with haste. No, there isn't a lot of DRG gear that's about haste, but the only themes DRG has are Jumping and Wyvern. How the FUCK can you grant bonuses to those to the rest of the party? Seriously, there are other things people have suggested that are worse than what I posted. BRP suggested enmity+ for PLD and enmity- for BRD for the entire party... what's the point of that. If everybody gets it doesn't that nullify the point? I doubt they'd add something only useful in alliances as a job defining ability.

Accuraccy Bonus&Attack Bonus
gtfo

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well, I just looked it up and Wyrm Mail+1 has haste+2%... lol
No, I'm just saying its a theme SE seems to be pushing, and frankly if they push it enough it would give DRG everything they need to be great party members.

Do you really not know anything about this game? Every time you post, you just say stupid shit because you haven't experienced enough to make a general statement.

Bring DRG to mobs that are weak to piercing type weapons, or just mobs that have lower defense in general. They are pretty fucking good.

I had a DRG in my Lv57PT on raptors in kuftal on my MNK, and he was doing 600dmg Pentas nonstop, and hit like 850dmg with Spirit Surge. At LV57, on a mob that's pretty high damage, considering my completely pimped out and merited monk could only hit like 550dmg with Raging Fists.

Jesus tapdancing christ, relax people. I love partying with DRGs on many things. One of my favorite EXP experiences was with a DRG/WHM in onzozo, but its no secret that they still have trouble finding parties at all levels, especially 75. They're still considered the worst melee by many. If they contributed to a party haste bonus then many more parties, including merit parties, would want them.

[Hirronimus]

DRG - Accuracy Boost (interesting for high eva mobs)

DRG has Accuracy Bonus

DRG - Accuracy Bonus

You need to know when to stop. Seriously.

[Lockecole]

BRP suggested enmity+ for PLD and enmity- for BRD for the entire party... what's the point of that. If everybody gets it doesn't that nullify the point? I doubt they'd add something only useful in alliances as a job defining ability.

Seriously, the fact that we're bashing Maxx made us miss this incredibly moronic statement by BRP makes me a sad panda. Give this comment the attention it deserves. -enmity on BRD? There's like 2 fights in the whole game where hate is an issue for BRD...and you're gonna somehow relate Enmity to BRD using those 2 fights? Amazing. Throw in the fact that he mispelled it on both occasions too.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I know they have acc and atk bonuses but they hardly define the job. They contribute to being a well rounded and powerful melee. WAR gets defense bonus, so should COR+WAR give defense bonus? No, PLD should because they get it much more significantly in the 10/30/50/70 bonus pattern. Same deal with DRG compared to RNG.