Quick question. MNK- Shura Togi/Osode

[Valley]

I've scoured the first 7 or so pages on Killingifrit.com for a thread discussing which is better for a 75mnk but was unable to find anything. Anyone here have any personal experience with these two pieces? I've heard from some people that they're about even in the long run, then other swear by either one or the other. I'm just not sure which I should be striving for first. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

I'm terribly sorry if this has been discussed many times over, I would have gladly read another thread about it instead of starting one. I just couldnt find any

[Skyylya]

Osode > Togi

+10 to every stat, high Def is > +20 atk and +10 acc, neither of which are hard to get at 75.

However, if you can't get an Osode, a Togi would be the next best thing since it's > SH.

The only time a togi is > than an osode is lvls 73 and 74 when an Osode is not equippable. Period.

[Valley]

That's kind of what I was thinking. However, I was told that since MNK has such high str already, the added 10str from Osode wouldn't make that much of a difference. The attack would noticeably increase both your attacks and WSs. Is he way off?

[Boyiee]

When i saw the topic i was hoping see see as the first word of text...

STOLEN!??!?

my hopes were crushed.

[XxSlusherxx]

I can't speak on KRT, normal mele, since I can't speak from experence. But what I don't need experence to say is... it's +8 MND over any other mnk equippable body that I know of, and if you care about chi blast at all thats a really big deal.

[Hirronimus]

VIT is a modifier for Asuran, right?

[Tymon]

VIT is a modifier for Asuran, right?

and dragon kick. more str mod than vit, though.

[Skyylya]

At 75 a MNK's attack is already extremely high as well.

you would only use a togi for xping, so if you're in krt as a mnk/war, eating meat with at least one minuet you're attack should be at least between 600-700 (roughly with berserk up).

You are also getting dex, increased number of crits as well as a minor acc bonus, you're getting agi which i think plays a role in guard (might be mistaken) and the number of crits against you as well as vitality which will have a small impact on the damage you take.

It also has +30 mp, which if like me you happen to play a job like RDM and have MP merits, that's 30 free HP (or if you use a cassie).


From a togi you get +10 acc....no Self respecting Mnk has acc issues in Krt. You get +20 attack. When you're attack is already at 600-700, that 20 isn't going to be 'that' noticeable.

You also get -35 HP, and in Krt the name of the game is long chains, which means the less you need to be cured, the better for mp consumption.

[Valley]

Yea, I think 50%str 50%vit for asuran both of which MNK has plenty of. Boy I wish I just had both so I can try them out myself and see which is better, lol

[XxSlusherxx]

VIT mod on Asurian is borderline pointless, it's 10%, so Osode gives you lol +1 to secondary mod. In any case I'm not a mnk so I won't post in this thread anymore, but I am interested in the answer.

p.s. I'm not voting either

[Alleya]

You get both, period. Doesn't matter how, you will never be complete if you don't have both.

more str mod than vit, though.

It chooses one randomly on each hit. Whereas dragon kick (by the best of my testing) is one hit str modified and one hit is vit, which explains its ability to either be decent or fail fantastically if one of the hits misses.


All that aside, having actually parsed the difference between using osode and togi on weaponskill in KRT, the margin is less than 1%, which is the normal deviation of damage over time in any exp party. Ie, there's no difference at all over time.

[Skyylya]

nah, togi = -1 inv space and nothing more.

osode is better for ninjas and Sam's IMO as well.

+10 to 6 stats is better than +10 to one stat and +20 to another, esp when you take into account what those stats are and how many things they affect.

[Taku]

If I could only have 1, I'd pick Osode because of it's more useful in general(Such as the MND for chi blast).

If I had both, I'd use the Togi for exp. I do have acc problems in KRT when eating att food(and by that I mean it's at like 87~89%), and I imagine +10 acc would help that more than the stats from Osode. Also, +20 attack isn't "a lot" when added to what a berserked MNK with minuets has, but from my experience it's parsed better damage per hit than +10 STR would add.

[aurik]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is staggering.

[Alleya]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is staggering.

The amount of actual information in this post is underwhelming.

[Eternus]

Most MNK I know do Togi for TP build and Osode for WS macro only lol.. well and chi blast.

[Hirronimus]

Most MNKs I know blink on my screen from constant gear swap TP > WS > TP > WS etc etc

[Krandor]

To directly answer the question;

Which would you have, if you could only choose one? 75mnk is the only job you have lvld.

It would be Osode. The damage will be about the same as with a Togi, but it can be used for Chi Blast, has MP, useable by other jobs, etc.

If you had the option to own both I think the ideal situation is Togi for TPing and Osode for WS. I know a few MNKs with Osode who go so far as to TP in their SH because they would rather have the accuracy then the stat boosts present on Osode while buidling TP.

[Hirronimus]

Take Osode, because eventually Togi abju will be trashed and you'll get it sooner or later. Osode on the other hand can be a bitch to get.

[NynJa]

Cant quit and RMT a Togi. Thats 10 mil LOST (coming from the guy whos upgrading a relic weapon, I'll save you the trouble and call myself a hypocrite) !!

But an Osode will always have monetary value.