Quick question. MNK- Shura Togi/Osode

[Eternus]

Spending hours upon hours DoTing a monster to death is hardly considered overpowered.

They can solo stuff other jobs can't without DoTing them.... The DoT shit is needed for mobs that can take anywhere from 6 to 18 people to defeat. I know you don't want the job nerfed, but it is right up there with Ninja.

[Septimus]

Avesta and Grendal are about the only RDMs I've heard of doing anything of that magnitude.

Yeah I know a RDM on our server that can solo quite easily as well. Avesta did not melee Genbu.. but what about Ash Dragon or any of the other retarded amount of mobs he has soloed. RDM/NIN is about as overpowered as any job in this game, if not more so.

I guess no one wants to mention that Avesta also had an alliance taking care of the bombs outside of camera range and casting cursna and cure on him when he wasn't filming. But I guess people have a different definition of "solo" than I do.

[Hirronimus]

Spending hours upon hours DoTing a monster to death is hardly considered overpowered.

They can solo stuff other jobs can't without DoTing them.... The DoT shit is needed for mobs that can take anywhere from 6 to 18 people to defeat. I know you don't want the job nerfed, but it is right up there with Ninja.

I'm not worried about RDM getting nerfed. A comment like that on the other hands means you've never seen RDM melee, our melee dmg is pathetic. If anything, DoT spells do a lot more than melee attacks. The constant rebuffing and debuffing you have to do, minimizes your melee dmg output by alot.

NIN/WHM or /RDM (honestly don't know what NINs sub for solo) would prolly be way more efficent. Melee dmg along with Elemental wheel I assume.

[Eternus]

I watch RDM solo Ose and Narashima on a regular basis lmao. I do not even think most NIN can solo Ose... There are countless examples. RDM can solo Ullikummi and his placeholders as well.. also RDM can solo Zipacna. Can keep on going. How about RDM soloing Aquarious... or RDM vs 40 cap ENM in Riverne (I soloed that myself on my 37 RDM and got 3k xp and 2mil of drops). The list goes on and on and on.

[Hirronimus]

Soloing things like Ose, Nara, Ulli and Zip doesn't say much about RDM being overpowered. Have you even seen MNK/WHM solo Ulli? I have. A BLM can solo Ose quiet easily. Aquarius? lol Come on. My list can go on too...

Seriously, RDM is hardly can be considered an overpowered job. It's fine the way it is and does exactly it was made to be doing in terms of game mechanics. Combat Caster, plain and simple. If anything, it's missing spells. Sept can back me up on this.

[aurik]

Why the hell are we talking about red mages? Monks get little enough love as it is, go make your own thread

[Hirronimus]

Because!

[Eternus]

I would like to see a giant Skeleton HNM (DL size) that is in the difficulty range of the CoP Wyrms and drops useful rare/ex gear. Make it incredibly magic resistant as well, which forces you to use MNKs on it and not BLM zerg. Give it all the higher tier nukes and some TP moves that are not in the game.. also it should cast death and doom and be able to sleepga the alliance. That would be fun imo.

[aurik]

Would still be smnburned because people are deathly afraid of skeleton AoE WS. Titan rush!

[nivlakian]

I would like to see a giant Skeleton HNM (DL size) that is in the difficulty range of the CoP Wyrms and drops useful rare/ex gear. Make it incredibly magic resistant as well, which forces you to use MNKs on it and not BLM zerg. Give it all the higher tier nukes and some TP moves that are not in the game.. also it should cast death and doom and be able to sleepga the alliance. That would be fun imo.

Immune to stun as well I'm assuming?

[Eternus]

I would like to see a giant Skeleton HNM (DL size) that is in the difficulty range of the CoP Wyrms and drops useful rare/ex gear. Make it incredibly magic resistant as well, which forces you to use MNKs on it and not BLM zerg. Give it all the higher tier nukes and some TP moves that are not in the game.. also it should cast death and doom and be able to sleepga the alliance. That would be fun imo.

Immune to stun as well I'm assuming?

Sure why not make it as insanely difficult as possible. God forbid we would give people a challenge.... I said magic resistant.. like it resits stun, silence, etc a fuckload... you can stun Kirin.. he just almost always resists it. Just trying to give MNKs something fun to do as far as HNMs go. Would make them more important in HNM LSs maybe lol.

[aurik]

Would still be smnburned because people are deathly afraid of skeleton AoE WS. Titan rush!

As I said, the strat would be to hold him with pld/nins and mess him up with mountain buster.

[Valley]

I would truly love to see that! MNK/WHM solo Ulli?! O_o

[nivlakian]

When you said Magic-resistant, I thought you were just referring to it resisting elemental magic alot (enough to make BLM unusable).

[Eternus]

Would still be smnburned because people are deathly afraid of skeleton AoE WS. Titan rush!

Yeah sadly people are pansies... Well at least our LS straight tanked Jorm with WAR/NIN and did a DRK kraken for the last 10% of its life. Had WAR/THF doing Steel Cyclone on landing etc. Really SMN is so broken I am having a hard time thinking up a HNM that could be SMNburn proof.

[Ish]

MNK have a place in hnmls - to get merit for their HNM jobs.

As to Skeleton HNM, loooooool that'd be some great shit, but you know of course it would probably be Banish3 spam that would be the winning strategy naturally. Heaven forbid melee be good at an hnm, you know that's clearly against SE's dev policy. Fucking blasphemer.

[Septimus]

I watch RDM solo Ose and Narashima on a regular basis lmao. I do not even think most NIN can solo Ose... There are countless examples. RDM can solo Ullikummi and his placeholders as well.. also RDM can solo Zipacna. Can keep on going. How about RDM soloing Aquarious... or RDM vs 40 cap ENM in Riverne (I soloed that myself on my 37 RDM and got 3k xp and 2mil of drops). The list goes on and on and on.

BLMs solo Ose and Aquarius, and may I add, faster than a Red Mage. I've never seen anyone solo Ullikummi and considering that it has AoE weaponskills and AoE spells and takes a shit-ton of gear to silence it, which would take a lot of skill and items to solo.

As for the Monarch Linn ENM, how did you get the Giant Scale to get to it? Even on my 50 RDM with capped elemental skill, the Pyrodrakes (level 52-55) resist the living crap out of my elemental damage. Even if you went to Riverne - Site #A01 to fight the level 42-45 Firedrakes, they will resist about as often. (But I will admit that Chainspell does own the mob in "Fire in the Sky", but only because it is a short fight with burst damage and fairly weak to nukes.)

But anyway, the general problem is that people see Avesta "solo" things (several of which he soloed on Black Mage, not Red mage) then everyone has kittens because a RDM dared to do something other than refreshing people. I can solo DC Flamingos in Sky all day long, but that doesn't help me silence Suzaku.

[aurik]

TP-free hate-free 500+ dmg bursts on HNM every 50 seconds from out-of-AoE range broken? No way :O

And before someone mentions the MP issue, you can rotate smns once you have enough. Obviously you need more smns and less monks lol. But it's ok because I'm sure there's enough 3rd-job-merit-onry monks in the shell to whore all the good mnk drops anyway :D

Edit: my nin/whm can solo wyverns for scales in RiverneB Its a bit dangerous but definitely doable.

[Septimus]

TP-free hate-free 500+ dmg bursts on HNM every 50 seconds from out-of-AoE range broken? No way :O

And before someone mentions the MP issue, you can rotate smns once you have enough. Obviously you need more smns and less monks lol. But it's ok because I'm sure there's enough 3rd-job-merit-onry monks in the shell to whore all the good mnk drops anyway :D

Edit: my nin/whm can solo wyverns for scales in RiverneB Its a bit dangerous but definitely doable.

Make a video of it so everyone can whine how overpowered NIN/WHM is.

[nivlakian]

I watch RDM solo Ose and Narashima on a regular basis lmao. I do not even think most NIN can solo Ose... There are countless examples. RDM can solo Ullikummi and his placeholders as well.. also RDM can solo Zipacna. Can keep on going. How about RDM soloing Aquarious... or RDM vs 40 cap ENM in Riverne (I soloed that myself on my 37 RDM and got 3k xp and 2mil of drops). The list goes on and on and on.

BLMs solo Ose and Aquarius, and may I add, faster than a Red Mage. I've never seen anyone solo Ullikummi and considering that it has AoE weaponskills and AoE spells and takes a shit-ton of gear to silence it, which would take a lot of skill and items to solo.

I can't imagine Ullikummi would be that difficult with crimson cuisses, gravity, and perhaps /NIN as well. It may take a while, but if he can't catch/hit you... you wouldn't die.