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    I usually go to stuff like Fafnir on WAR if I'm asked to come as a DD... But yeah, even as SAM on something like him I'd use Sushi.

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    I usually cry at my 190 damage kashas (low end) on Fafnir using sushi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi
    Stopped reading here. I just logged in to tell you that you suck, thanks.
    What Mifaco is trying to say here is. Eat meat dishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles
    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi ... SAM has a kinda crappy selection of foot armor so I think it might be worth a shot ~.~
    Uh...if you can afford hauber+1 etc how can you not afford Hachiman sune-ate +1?

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    Doesn't DRK have the most skill+, with Scythe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Doesn't DRK have the most skill+, with Scythe?
    I believe its tied with SAM.

    276Base + 16(Merits) + 5(Busha/Abyssal) +7(Torques)

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    so.............would soboro sukehiro+crappy equip...........be good? lol
    also can zanshin kick in on multi hit weapons ie soboro sukehiro

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    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.
    276 + 5 (Suppa) + 16 (merits) + 7 (Fort Torque) = 304.

    Company Sword = highest base (Edit:1H) damage weapon
    Can wear a good bit of powerful armor and Justice Sword and Joyeuse are very nice offhands.

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    What about AF hands, rice balls nigga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.
    276 + 5 (Suppa) + 16 (merits) + 7 (Fort Torque) = 304.

    Company Sword = highest base (Edit:1H) damage weapon
    Can wear a good bit of powerful armor and Justice Sword and Joyeuse are very nice offhands.
    You are correct, Paladin could still beef themselves up damage-wise with all of that.

    But it would seem rather silly, as their combat skill merits would be better spent put into parrying and shield in my opinion. They still lack damage dealing oriented job abilities to even compare with a Dragoon, let alone a Warrior or Dark Knight, using them as an example of damage dealing oriented jobs.

    Sorry I wasn't clear enough, lol. I am sure a paladin could deal some damage, but aren't they are generally used more for tanking?

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    according to bradyguides paldain/rng is teh 1337+1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.
    276 + 5 (Suppa) + 16 (merits) + 7 (Fort Torque) = 304.

    Company Sword = highest base (Edit:1H) damage weapon
    Can wear a good bit of powerful armor and Justice Sword and Joyeuse are very nice offhands.
    You are correct, Paladin could still beef themselves up damage-wise with all of that.

    But it would seem rather silly, as their combat skill merits would be better spent put into parrying and shield in my opinion. They still lack damage dealing oriented job abilities to even compare with a Dragoon, let alone a Warrior or Dark Knight, using them as an example of damage dealing oriented jobs.

    Sorry I wasn't clear enough, lol. I am sure a paladin could deal some damage, but aren't they are generally used more for tanking?
    As PLD/NIN I can out damage a DRG. Just need some Hecatomb peices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.
    276 + 5 (Suppa) + 16 (merits) + 7 (Fort Torque) = 304.

    Company Sword = highest base (Edit:1H) damage weapon
    Can wear a good bit of powerful armor and Justice Sword and Joyeuse are very nice offhands.
    You are correct, Paladin could still beef themselves up damage-wise with all of that.

    But it would seem rather silly, as their combat skill merits would be better spent put into parrying and shield in my opinion. They still lack damage dealing oriented job abilities to even compare with a Dragoon, let alone a Warrior or Dark Knight, using them as an example of damage dealing oriented jobs.

    Sorry I wasn't clear enough, lol. I am sure a paladin could deal some damage, but aren't they are generally used more for tanking?
    As PLD/NIN I can out damage a DRG. Just need some Hecatomb peices.
    Heian I am sure you probably could, poor Drg's gave them too much credit it seems lol.

    But Heian, have you maxed out your sword using your combat skill merits? I was implying your average paladin would not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    I have Haubergeon+1 and snipers and use sushi
    Stopped reading here. I just logged in to tell you that you suck, thanks.
    Welcome to Blue Gartr Skittles XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    I am pretty sure Paladin would tie that as well with their sword skill. But a paladin meritting sword, lol.
    276 + 5 (Suppa) + 16 (merits) + 7 (Fort Torque) = 304.

    Company Sword = highest base (Edit:1H) damage weapon
    Can wear a good bit of powerful armor and Justice Sword and Joyeuse are very nice offhands.
    You are correct, Paladin could still beef themselves up damage-wise with all of that.

    But it would seem rather silly, as their combat skill merits would be better spent put into parrying and shield in my opinion. They still lack damage dealing oriented job abilities to even compare with a Dragoon, let alone a Warrior or Dark Knight, using them as an example of damage dealing oriented jobs.

    Sorry I wasn't clear enough, lol. I am sure a paladin could deal some damage, but aren't they are generally used more for tanking?
    As PLD/NIN I can out damage a DRG. Just need some Hecatomb peices.
    Heian I am sure you probably could, poor Drg's gave them too much credit it seems lol.

    But Heian, have you maxed out your sword using your combat skill merits? I was implying your average paladin would not.
    No, never would need to either. I can get over +40 Acc Bonus Easy as PLD and eat meat to make up for the lack of STR/DEX gear. Probably better though to go with sushi and macro in Hecatomb for Vorpal Blade. Also the +5 Skill from Supponimi and +7 from Justice Torque (lawlzdroprate) would also make up greatly. I only use PLD/NIN in burn PTs to keep a buffer, still does more damage than alot of other shitty players I have been with.

    Still debating on how to do my combat skills though, I am thinking just go 8Katana/4Shield. Possibly 6Katana/3Evasion/3Shield. I need to look over a couple more setups though on both PLD and NIN

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    Though I'm sure it was just something that slipped your mind, Sword skill is from Fortitude, so its not actually that bad of a Torque to get. Ghrah M Chips are a joke.

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    As someone said earlier, Hachiman Sune-ate(+1) own anything SAM currently has in the feet department.

    And to answer those meat elitists who think they are better than everyone when in fact their DRKs wear DEX rings at 75 *cough* Mifaco: SAMs can use sushi for good reasons. I personally don't TP in any accuracy gear outside the neck piece simply because stacking store TP owns stacking accuracy. The fact that I can build 100TP in 6 hits makes me a WS machine and with sushi I always get those 6 hits in.

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    For a job that relies on its ability to WS most often, I think going for the best acc you can get while using the Store TP probably is your best bet. I have mine on hold, but when I hit 50 it is going to be wearing Shinimusha Hara-Ate, Rajas Ring, and Shinimusha Haidate. Also be using Fuma, Swift Belt, and a Soboro Sukehiro, so whenever you attack that fast for that much TP I'd rather just never miss than do some extra damage each time if I happen to hit.

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