Appraisers (04/10/2006)

[Brennon]

how is this different from the current system? Fafnir has a random chance of dropping Andvaranauts every time you kill him, too. Every now and then he's nice and gives you a sword.

Except that fafnir is the only thing that can drop those items. What if every mob in Dragons Aery could drop a ??? sword, which all had an equal (but small) chance of becoming a Ridill? That's the kind of thing i'm getting at.

[Avvesione]

I kinda like this idea. I'd have to see how it works in the expansion. Perhaps after an Assult or ENM in ToAU you get a pool of ??? Dagger, ??? Plate Armor, ??? Mittens and ??? Potion and there are a lotta differet things it could be like a really good dagger (or really bad) and something like Haubergeon, Cursed Mitts and a new type of potion.

Edit: Also, it works well with this being the "Treasures of Aht Urghan" being it like you finding treasure and finding out if you made 5k, 50k, 500k, or 5M. I kinda like the idea.

[Nirokun!]

What I HOPE this is, and by god I really really hope, is that this is an implementation of WoW's 'world epic' drop item, where you can get something of this caliber from completely random mobs, instead of people just farming NMs 24 hours a day.

"You find a ??? Blade on the Lamia Enchanter"

Be nice to see real good stuff come from fairly common mobs.

YES i was thinking the exact same thing -- my roommate plays WoW so i know some stuff about it~ and as far as i know, the only thing he camps are (if you know what these are) are Mageweavers for the money they drop. I've NEVER seen him camp anything else, because they have -hopefully~- this system worked in, where they can get their different colored (rarity) drops. I really doubt every single mob spawn in all ToAU zones will be camped up the ass with people thinking they'd get a Ridill lol

[nivlakian]

I think it's an interesting idea assuming it's done in a similar fashion to what Brennon mentioned. Just need to remember to bring people with you when you get the item appraised so it can go to the right person if it's an EX item.

It didn't seem clear to me, but is it EX ??? item becomes EX item or ??? item can become either an EX item or non-EX item?

If only EX ??? items become EX items then you can know whether you need to bring people with you to get it once appraised or if you can just tell your LS what it became and dbox it to the right person.

[Nirokun!]

yeah i was thinking about that too~ the new system is going to be doing some new stuff with our old lot pool system, or maybe not. The ??? item might fall into your inventory during the normal time it takes to have the loot distribute, but when you get it appraised, it appears back in the treasure pool, as if you had just killed a mob and it dropped something

either way, i love this idea, as long as i dont get pebbles and pugil scales ;(

[nivlakian]

Oh, I don't know if everyone noticed this but...

From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Apr. 9, 2006 20:02 [PDT]

"Treasures of Aht Urhgan" Version Update (Apr. 12)

On April 18, 2006, the FINAL FANTASY XI: Treasures of Aht Urhgan expansion disc will be shipped.

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Maybe we can see some of the new items that will be available.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Oh, I don't know if everyone noticed this but...


Maybe we can see some of the new items that will be available.

Nah, they did this for CoP as well. No items were able to be hacked from the files.

[Helpoemer]

first thing i thought when i saw this was Ragnarok Online, cos whenever you find weapons or armour from a mob, it is always unidentified and needs appraising using a "Magnifier". a job in the game (Merchant) had an ability to do a free appraisal at any time (maybe COR will get it? /dream ).

if the ??? items are ex, i think it will definately beat monopolising stuff ._.

but that's only if it's decent stuff and drops off instanced things or exp mobs.

[Maguspk]

I hate things based on this much luck lol. Hopefully either the ??? drops are 100% or getting the ideal item from a ??? item will be like a 50% chance. Hearing stuff like this just reminds me of stupid shit like Swift Belts and Leaping Lizzy But I still have faith in the upcoming expansion, not enough knowledge on this new ??? item thing to decide whether it'll be kewl or not.

[Onizuka]

Idea sounds good to me either way it's something new something diffrent.

[Skyylya]

All i thought of was Diablo II...Maybe we can go rescue Cain in ToAU!!

[Volken]

Sweet! Instead of just getting a nice item, you only get the chance of getting something good? Or if it turns out to be the same thing that drops from a certain NM then what's the point? Hopefully these things only drop off solo mobs...

[MikedeeFenrir]

All i thought of was Diablo II...Maybe we can go rescue Cain in ToAU!!

I thought about Guild Wars

[Eternus]

Stop talking about Ridill or anything that should be rare as hell at this point in FFXI. Ridill should only be a easier to obtain item if there is something considerably better.. and if there is then the overall difficulty of end game monsters should be much higher. Basically, you are not going to get a Ridill unless your LS can claim and kill Fafnir lol.

[Dethsbane]

Just like the "Inside the Belly" quest... the NPC/Appraisers will give you lots of crap until that one lucky roll, you get something worth keeping. Even if they up the drop rates on these items, mostlikely it will just add more gil into circulation because of all the npcin' that will be going on. Hopefully, high level mobs will drop high level ??? items...

Not a totally bad idea, I can't wait to see how this will turn out.

[FFXIFlux]

Sounds like a pain in the ass, right up there with not being able to send gil via mog. I'm starting to wonder if the boat from mhuhara may be the only way to get to the expansion and thus you need to waste like 30+ minutes any time you want to go from existing lands to the new stuff, as it seems like SE is trying to make the game even less pleasent to play than it has been. Here I thought the obvious drop in player base after the CoP debacle would clue them in to how stupid making stuff a pain in the ass like Sea and accessing new areas was. Now we're going to have to jump through fucking hoops to get loot. Better keep lots of spots free in your inventory as you're not going to know what shit to toss and what to keep until you get back to town.

[Maxxthepenguin]

God I hope these don't clog up the .dat files when we parse them...

[Demetrios]

Sounds like a pain in the ass, right up there with not being able to send gil via mog. I'm starting to wonder if the boat from mhuhara may be the only way to get to the expansion and thus you need to waste like 30+ minutes any time you want to go from existing lands to the new stuff, as it seems like SE is trying to make the game even less pleasent to play than it has been. Here I thought the obvious drop in player base after the CoP debacle would clue them in to how stupid making stuff a pain in the ass like Sea and accessing new areas was. Now we're going to have to jump through fucking hoops to get loot. Better keep lots of spots free in your inventory as you're not going to know what shit to toss and what to keep until you get back to town.

OH MY GOD FREE SPOTS THAT"S LIKE FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCOMADATE FOR CONSIDERING YOU"RE GOING TO HAVE 30 TO 50 MORE FROM AHT URGAN BUT OHHHHHHH MAYBE WE DON"T HAVE ENOUGH GIL TO PAY FOR MOG LOCKER THEN FUCKING SUCK IT UP AND GO FARM SPIDER WEBS BUT OHHH I"M AN END GAME PLAYER I DON"T WANT TO FARM SPIDER WEBS LOL YOU BETTER QUIT FFXI THEN

[Jackyl]

All i thought of was Diablo II...Maybe we can go rescue Cain in ToAU!!

I'd save Cain, only to find out that he only gave me a Hermes Quencher at which point I would beat him retarded with a socketed Wirt's leg.

[vegetaa]

"You find a ??? crystal on Tiamat."