Good Game @ Aspid

[Bunshinagain]

But it looks like you are calling out for Jihad, which is ironic.. What FI did for Bahamut, "these rules" went all good until stupid mpking and stealing NA LSs got pissed and started the JP-NA war. The rules are totally fair, and if you dont want to abide by them then you should be mpked yourself.

FI started it, how can you be that blind?

FI started it by changing the rules to benefit them as they went along. FI has killed CFH Aspids, FI has stolen Fafnirs that other linkshells won during randoms, FI has demanded free Fafnirs if people cast elemental seal sleep when they log on after a maint, because sleeping Fafnir is wrong.

Are you that ignorant? Read what you just posted. When they killed the CFH aspid i just explained above. When they 'stole' Fafnir that another LS one during a random, i remember BG saying in Dragons Aery ''you have 5min to claim.' And you say they adjust the rules as they see fit, there was a time where i hated BG likehell because they think they were the NA rulers of Bahamut, this was back when BG was the only NA LS that could defeat Tiamat-Jorm. I had respect, but it was blown away buy BGs members thinking they are better than everyone else just becasue they can kill this and that, and when they set the rules its ok, but when FI sets the rules "OH NOES LETS FLAME EM ! FUCK FI" About them stealing the mob after random, the LS that was about to claim took too long, and FI was left out of the random. Fi demands free fafnirs because its wrong to cast sleep FFS listent to urself. Your exaggurating again, Sleeping Fafnir isnt sleeping Fafnir, it was held, even ifit was after maint. FI had members (i think) and the other LS was holding it. they werent just 'sleeping it'

I dont know how people still dont see my point of view, just try to think outside the box? Maybe you'll understand a bit more if you do or maybe its just because your hatred is clouding your mind and this web site full of biased info and claims that make others hate us immediately causing a first impression that is bad. And as you all know the first impression counts alot. And this is why i said i was gona stop arguing about my LS.

Now before some asshole points it out, and im saying this cuz im sure that someone was gona do it. (the same way Kinzero were Sure FI wouldve killed the aspid in CFH so they stole it.) When i said this site is full of biased info, some1s gona post a pic or 2 about botting and stealing and mpk and say 'are these biased? i think not, gtfo' well, (to the asshole, whoever even thought of this)('Actions are counted even as Thoughts or willingness to do something').

Im Racist. Didnt i already say this before? im acting racist, god i hate repeating myself. Why am i doing so? Because this is all involved with Racism. Im not calling you a racist X, but i am calling Flash and Judah and Hulk and someother members i could name off the top of my head that are racist. Im not really aiming to be racist, ur just taking it offensively. Try to think about your community in NA, as an outsider, and as most outsiders(foreigners) have concluded, most NAs are assholes. I looked at my own UAE community, alot of people RMT because they have the money, its wrong. No one is perfect, NAs RMT (some). NAs bot, JPs bot, Arabs Bot, NAs Steal, JPs Steal, Arabs steal(even though we havent stolen shit, just take it as an example). Now you try looking at your own community, do you not see the bubble of ignorance and stuborness around you? All i want to do is pop that Bubble so that the Rightouesness shines through.

[Bunshinagain]

About the mule, think what you want to think ive already told you what it is.

X, i do understand what you just said about FI, but Belkin (from Kinzero) just said the real reason why he himself claimed aspid, it wasnt for any of the reasons you stated lol.

He explained why he claimed, im too lazy to quote it, its on this thread.
why are you standing up for Kinzero? nvm i guessed why.
They are one of the LSs taking action against the system right?
Well you maybe right, the only way to correct the justice might be by using injustice but take this into mind. What if you are wrong. What if what you think of as the crappy system that failed, just failed to meet your standards. I have yet to think of the reason how this system failed and i really honestly without any racism think NAs started it.
When they refuse and revolt, if i remember correctly (im trying to think back to the first problem that caused this drama about the system)..
I think it was the holding thing, some LS held fafnir before the SSJ system was added and they kept holding and holding and FI got pissed or something. Or was it something else.

Im tired.. my points is clear i hope.
the System started to crumble once we (not only NAs some UAE ppl were in NA LSs and JP along with them) so i repeat the system crumbled once we started ignoring and disobeying

[Bunshinagain]

You dont see my LS the way i do, none of you do( of you without any racsim-.- i meant 'you' = 'the haters')

Same with FI.
Can we end this now? Or is there anything left unsaid?

Been invited to a party im gona leave soon, i smell myself getting high already.

[Hirronimus]

the problem at the thing is, these 2 ls's destroyed all rules according hnm's. from today on, bahamut's hnm- ls's will go crazy because stealing is legit now.

(Quoted from 1st page, cause I think this exclamates the general idea of the thread.)

lol at 4 linkshells who ruined the afore mentioned HNM rules. 2 for botting and 2 for stealing. Give yourselves a pat on the back, fools.

I can see Kazoku's moves being justified, seeing as FI bots the shit out of everything, but Kinzuru should have waitied till 50% of Kaz at least wiped before taking (than again FI was mashing enter buttons I bet)

Anyways, thank you faggits for turning Bahamut into Midgar

[broods]

Judah

please tell Zared :D
sub jop RDM can i have it^^

Too Weak LS
stole LS fuck you moooom^^

[Xavier]

Can we end this now? Or is there anything left unsaid?

Considering you just called everyone here biased and ignorant, I'm pretty confident you're going to have to defend that. You can't stab someone with a knife and then just walk away.

But it looks like you are calling out for Jihad, which is ironic.. What FI did for Bahamut, "these rules" went all good until stupid mpking and stealing NA LSs got pissed and started the JP-NA war. The rules are totally fair, and if you dont want to abide by them then you should be mpked yourself.

FI started it, how can you be that blind?

FI started it by changing the rules to benefit them as they went along. FI has killed CFH Aspids, FI has stolen Fafnirs that other linkshells won during randoms, FI has demanded free Fafnirs if people cast elemental seal sleep when they log on after a maint, because sleeping Fafnir is wrong.

Are you that ignorant? Read what you just posted. When they killed the CFH aspid i just explained above. When they 'stole' Fafnir that another LS one during a random, i remember BG saying in Dragons Aery ''you have 5min to claim.' And you say they adjust the rules as they see fit, there was a time where i hated BG likehell because they think they were the NA rulers of Bahamut

You calling me ignorant is amazing, as what you just said is completely inaccurate and only shows that you yourself are ignorant.

Are you that misinformed? Do you really not know anything about the game? FI made the rule about having to claim in 5 minutes or you could not fight, not BG. They made the rule so that nobody could random who didn't have enough people, and then changed it later that you could random as long as you had one person there to random.

When random was originally created, you had to have enough people to kill the HNM when you randomed. During one KB that some LS claimed, FI warped out and left one person for deathtime. We knew that they couldn't kill KB with one person, so we didn't let them random. They got pissed off, so they made up a rule that as long as someone was there, you could random, and had to claim in a certain amount of time.

Am I that ignorant? I said FI has killed CFH'd Aspids. I did not say FI had no reason to kill it, my exact wording only implied FI has killed CFH Aspid. Can you argue this? Has FI not killed a CFH Aspid? If I kill a man, no matter what the reasoning, am I not guilty of murder? Even if the man just raped my sister (stole Aspid), I still commited murder (killed a CFH Aspid).

this was back when BG was the only NA LS that could defeat Tiamat-Jorm. I had respect, but it was blown away buy BGs members thinking they are better than everyone else just becasue they can kill this and that, and when they set the rules its ok, but when FI sets the rules "OH NOES LETS FLAME EM ! FUCK FI"

BG never made the rules, the Japanese did. How can YOU be that ignorant. We only followed them.

[About them stealing the mob after random, the LS that was about to claim took too long, and FI was left out of the random.

FI had 2 people in the region while the random was being set up. FI had left Aery after claim and gone to do other things. FI heard the LS was wiping and came back after an hour to random. Why do they deserve to random when other linkshells waited the entire time with all their members there? Why can a linkshell leave and send 2 people to random? How is this fair? Explain. The rule of random was that you must have enough people to kill when you random, FI tried to change the rule to benefit them, and then just ignored random and stole Fafnir anyway.

Fi demands free fafnirs because its wrong to cast sleep FFS listent to urself. Your exaggurating again, Sleeping Fafnir isnt sleeping Fafnir, it was held, even ifit was after maint. FI had members (i think) and the other LS was holding it. they werent just 'sleeping it'

Why is it wrong? Who says its wrong? Do the GMs say its wrong? Does God say its wrong? Does the instruction book say its wrong? No. FI says its wrong. FI is not my master. If you log on in the pit and Fafnir is spawned and attacking you, and you are a black mage, are you going to die, or are you going to sleep it while the LS logs on. And again YOU are misinformed and ignorant. The Fafnir we slept when we logged on, we started attacking in less than a minute, and killed in less than 15 minutes. FI was angry that they didn't get Fafnir, and wanted to punish us when we did nothing wrong. FI sleeps Fafnir after maint too, they wanted to make up a rule that you could never sleep Fafnir as soon as we beat them to claiming that way. I'm not exaggerating shit. Thats the god damn truth, and you're trying to distort it to make FI look good. FI didn't have anymore members than we did. If you don't know the story, stop talking. I was there, and you weren't.

I dont know how people still dont see my point of view

Maybe because you're wrong and everyone here agrees

Maybe you'll understand a bit more if you do or maybe its just because your hatred is clouding your mind and this web site full of biased info and claims that make others hate us immediately causing a first impression that is bad. And as you all know the first impression counts alot. And this is why i said i was gona stop arguing about my LS.

If you stop arguing, you've lost. The impression stays, and everyone has no choice but to assume that we're right and you all bot.

Do you really even believe what you're saying. You just called the entire NA community of Bahamut clouded by hate and biased. Stop being racist. You just generalized that everyone who comes here does nothing but lies just because they say things about your LS you don't like. Where theres smoke theres fire, every rumor has a bit of truth.

Im Racist...Now you try looking at your own community, do you not see the bubble of ignorance and stuborness around you? All i want to do is pop that Bubble so that the Rightouesness shines through.

You're also a hypocrite. Because you assume that we must be full of ignorance and stuborness and never assume that it could be you who is blind. If you are unwilling to ever accept that you might have to take responsibility, that you could be at fault, then you have no right to ever blame someone else for anything.

You post as if you are perfect. Wake up. You aren't. I'm not either. But when you try and say that your LS has done nothing wrong, that FI has done nothing wrong, and say that the pictures we have are biased and cannot be true, then you are the one who is blind. It is too easy to simply go through life and say that everyone who disagrees with you is an infidel and must grow up and accept your view. Thats not reality. That is being ignorant.

[Zigma]

Please correct me if im wrong, here im being literal, Didnt FI get Mpked at that Aspid?
If so i remember the reason for CFHing was to piss NA LSs off. Now im not saying it was a right thing to do. But it wasnt all that wrong, the same way Kinzero justifys stealing as okay Aspid as ok.

FI did not call for help on aspid, kazoku did (by accident?) when they could not push it down.

They killed it because it was stolen from them and thus the mpking began.

[Xavier]

What if you are wrong. What if what you think of as the crappy system that failed, just failed to meet your standards. I have yet to think of the reason how this system failed

Nobody can ever know 100% if they are right. You have to go with a feeling sometimes.

And the system HAS failed, even if you think its the NA fault. Even if you think that the the JP and UAE did absolutely nothing wrong, the system still failed.. The system failed the moment that NAs became so upset over the system that they started to steal mobs and mpk. Is that not a failure? Are linkshells feeling that they must steal and mpk not the system failing? For if the system did not fail, then no one would feel the need to mpk and steal right? Why would they, if the system was good and working?

You have a problem of logic there. You cannot argue that the system has not failed in any way, when the system is no longer working. Clearly there has been a failure. You can argue who caused it to fail, but I don't see how you can say it has not failed at all.

It failed because of botters and greed. Say what you want, its clear that people in your LS have bots. And its clear that FI is greedy, and wants every kill they can get, and will change the rules to make sure they do. Clear to me, but not clear to you. And I don't have to convince you of it, because it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. You can't force people to see your point of view, that really is being a nazi.

And again, its just racist to say that it must have failed because of NAs without providing a reason why the NAs caused it to fail and completely ignoring JP/UAE and EUROs. How can you say this:

the System started to crumble once we (not only NAs some UAE ppl were in NA LSs and JP along with them) so i repeat the system crumbled once we started ignoring and disobeying

but say this at the same time:

i really honestly without any racism think NAs started it.

Conflicting statements. Accepting responsiblity then throwing it back at the NAs.

[Krandor]

You dont see my LS the way i do, none of you do( of you without any racsim-.- i meant 'you' = 'the haters')

Same with FI.
Can we end this now? Or is there anything left unsaid?

Been invited to a party im gona leave soon, i smell myself getting high already.

Obviously these boards would present somekind of a biased view but when people from every single LS on Bahamut post on these threads calling your LS RMT/Botting Scumbags, something is likely up.

Asura has a gilseller LS, but the LS is not 100% gilsellers, there are some NAs who join up to leech Abjurations/gil/god gear off them. They will post all over KI defending their LS claiming they don't sell gil, when it has been made perfectly clear that the opposite is true (When a LS sells every single drop off a Kirin kills then is later spotted trading with an IGE mule, I would liken that to your LS hosting Mrargus on it's website).

Am I comparing "Sisterfuck" to gilsellers saying you guys are just as bad? Yes, yes I am. Every sign I've seen relating to your LS on these boards has shown that your LS is full of cheating & RMTing douchebags.

[Tymon]

1.

Not joke: OFFSET
OWNPOSITON = 3C41DC

hay janice how did yoo get the working offsets lolerSKATEZ

2. who the fuck is broods? he talks like RMT

[Janice]

1.

Not joke: OFFSET
OWNPOSITON = 3C41DC

hay janice how did yoo get the working offsets lolerSKATEZ

Courtesy of Redevil, who is (was?) in sisterfucks linkshell.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3143/redevil9wi.jpg

[Not Kuno]

Xavier you forgot something that FI did. That time I used Elemental Seal in Aery after Maint FI demanded a free fafnir. Not only that, they talked to Ed and said I should be kicked. I didn't even sleep fafnir. Or start sleeping fafnir. All I did was a fucking ELEMENTAL SEAL that wore off because I didn't cast anything and FI demanded a free fafnir and me to be kicked.

[zared]

Yes Brood's who the fuck are you??? are u retarded(i think so).. i'm not one to post on other forums usually..but i feel compelled to this time.
I was at that Aspid wit my ls(Kinzuru )..somewhere in this thread people have forgotten that it was actually KAZUKO WHO STOLE ASPID FROM FI NOT US..Yes FI was trying to mpk them and yes they had jus about fully wiped before we claimed it ..FI and SISTERFUCK screwed the HNM rules on this Server now they don't like it that ppl won't put up with it anymore

[Bunshinagain]

Its no use. Im dropping the case, fucking hell xavier you make me wana smash my keyboard into pieces.

You're still taking everything i say as literal and i dont really give a fuck anymore, i have a real life to get to. Call it what you want. Do what you want. I have no reason to hate all NAs. I have a reason to hate assholes.
I dont know what to say, if i keep on posting X is gona quote each paragraph and contradict it because i didnt make my meaning clear.

Yes, you proved some of my statements wrong, Touche. But your head is too high up your ass to admit the same.
You look for any single word and turn it against me, lol and im not in the mood nor am i lonley enough to re-quote everything Xavier said and explain. Im sorry for that.

I repeat: do whatever you want, but just know this.
I guess its too much to ask that this case be dropped and too much to ask for that you leave me alone in piece. Yes i dont care about certain stuff, im not gona list them.
But i do care about my LS, i have stooped to a level below mine already and do not wish to tire myself anymore, i guess this is my last big post.

You can call this me admitting defeat idc but again just know that on some level you are wrong. And before i go, you Xavier dont have the information i have. Ive seen BG try to follow these rules strictly making it look like their own. Maybe that was my mistake.

Yes, its communism imo. You are taking it way too far, i normally hate people who say 'its just a game' but it is. i have a feeling you would stab an FI member irl if you had the chance.

Please stop taking everything literaly then exaggurating it, you arent readin well enough or i havent posted well enough to clerify my meaning.
Peace, i cant wait till Dragon's Aery tomorow after maint.
PS: popped Ix'DRK no drop /hurray and FI are nice people no matter what you say, they were trying to help the community, them changing the rules were not only to make it fir for themselves, but also for other LSs so it isnt repeated in the future. Try to get this in your head: They spotted something wrong, somethign against themselves that would harm them. It would harm any other LS in their place too, them changing rules after that was helping the System but i guess people cant see this view. You just wana flame.

[Bunshinagain]

Lol btw, i dont see "No botting" on the rules, i guess its one of those other broken rules like "No stealing" "no MPKing". How 'convenient'.
TRY and find the sarcasm and irony in my posts and not the literal meaning of everything.

[Mifaco]

ALLAHU AKBAR

[Xavier]

Its no use. Im dropping the case, fucking hell xavier you make me wana smash my keyboard into pieces.

Sorry that I disagree with you and won't shut up when you tell me to.

You're still taking everything i say as literal and i dont really give a fuck anymore, i have a real life to get to. Call it what you want. Do what you want. I have no reason to hate all NAs. I have a reason to hate assholes.

You should put an * at the start of every paragraph if I'm not supposed to read what you write as written.

I dont know what to say, if i keep on posting X is gona quote each paragraph and contradict it because i didnt make my meaning clear.

Just make it clear? Seriously. If you think I'm a communist, don't call me a nazi. For everything else, its just a debate. Why are you so upset that I don't agree with you. People are allowed to have different opinions. I'm expressing mine, you're expressing yours, and at the end of the day hopefully we've both grown a bit and can see the bigger picture from both angels. Thats my goal anyway, so see your side as well as mine. And I kinda do now.

Yes, you proved some of my statements wrong, Touche. But your head is too high up your ass to admit the same.

You post as if you are perfect. Wake up. You aren't. I'm not either...It is too easy to simply go through life and say that everyone who disagrees with you is an infidel and must grow up and accept your view. Thats not reality. That is being ignorant.

Really? I said I wasn't perfect in the last post. I was trying to say that I don't know whos right, and the only way to ever really know is to talk like this, to get a debate going thats so intense that you can reach some sort of real conclusion. I want to know the truth, I want a realization. And I know you don't reach that kind of truth by trying to belittle something and hide it away.

You look for any single word and turn it against me, lol and im not in the mood nor am i lonley enough to re-quote everything Xavier said and explain. Im sorry for that.

I look for things I don't agree with and say how I feel about it. If you don't feel strongly about what you're saying, I understand you not wanting to respond. It has nothing to do with being lonely, just wasting time between classes. I don't get the personal attack, its like a last-ditch effort to slap me on the way out.

I repeat: do whatever you want, but just know this.
I guess its too much to ask that this case be dropped and too much to ask for that you leave me alone in piece. Yes i dont care about certain stuff, im not gona list them.
But i do care about my LS, i have stooped to a level below mine already and do not wish to tire myself anymore, i guess this is my last big post.

I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking your view of the situation. I think theres a differtence, but maybe you don't. I don't think you've stooped to a low level, you've done something admirable. You've defended your linkshell against my perception, and I can at least see your side of the story, even if I don't fully agree with it. Just looking for progress.

You can call this me admitting defeat idc but again just know that on some level you are wrong. And before i go, you Xavier dont have the information i have. Ive seen BG try to follow these rules strictly making it look like their own. Maybe that was my mistake.

I know I'm wrong on some levels. I don't pretend to be an all knowing entity. But I'm just trying to get you to see that theres as much truth in what I'm saying as in what you're saying. Theres two sides to every story, and you're just trying to dismiss the other side as wrong. I'm arguing for a side, but I'm arguing to argue it, to broaden my own idea of whats going on. In a way, you're helping me, so I wish you wouldn't stop posting.

I think its a good thing for linkshells to strickly follow the rules. Thats the problem that happened in my mind. People stopped following the rules strickly, they started to change them as the situation called for, which upset a lot of people and broke a lot of trust. If you're saying BG followed the rules too closely, then I'm taking that as a compliment.

Yes, its communism imo. You are taking it way too far, i normally hate people who say 'its just a game' but it is. i have a feeling you would stab an FI member irl if you had the chance.

Its just a game. I only care about the game while playing it. It doesn't really have much to do with my life when I'm not at a computer (LOL SOMEONE MAKE THE JOKE THAT I'M ALWAYS AT A COMPUTER SO ITS MY LIFE LOL, there I even set up the joke)

Please stop taking everything literaly then exaggurating it, you arent readin well enough or i havent posted well enough to clerify my meaning.

I'm not exaggerating anything, thats what you just don't understand. Its my perspective of the situation. Its an exaggeration to you, to me, its reality. And unless you can take my view seriously instead of just dismissing it as a joke, you're just going to be talking to a brick wall. You can't tell someone what to think about something, only influence it. And I'm sorry, but you're throwing around some heavy accusations (as am I), why would I not take it literal? If you're going to make racial slurs towards Americans, call me a communist and attempt to discredit my view was ridiculous, why would I read it figuratively instead of literaly? I've never been called a nazi and pondered the implications of what being a nazi entails. I think, "my god, I've just been called a nazi."

FI are nice people no matter what you say, they were trying to help the community, them changing the rules were not only to make it fir for themselves, but also for other LSs so it isnt repeated in the future. Try to get this in your head: They spotted something wrong, somethign against themselves that would harm them. It would harm any other LS in their place too, them changing rules after that was helping the System but i guess people cant see this view. You just wana flame.

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR VIEW IS THE ONLY CORRECT ONE??? Why can't there be multiple views of the same situation. Thats YOUR view of FI. Why are you telling me that because I don't share the same view, I'm a flamer. I see that quote as FI saw themselves being hurt, and changed the rule to benefit themselves.

And, just to show you a counter argument to that, here it is. BG had 2 people at Aspid that was being randomed for. BG was not allowed to random. This was BEFORE we told them they couldn't random for the Fafnir where they had 2 people. Somehow, FI can tell us we can't random with 2 people at Aspid, but when we tell them they can't random with 2 people at Fafnir, they just go ahead and steal it. Justify it. FI is in it for themselves. Thats my view. They give M. Bodies to their mannequins. Sure helps the community.

And if you're going to change the rules, invite everyone to a conference to discuss them beforehand, and agree on them. Don't play God and change the rules as it benefits you with the claim that it'll benefit other people later. Who made FI the masters of the server? You just haven't answered that to me. If you can explain why FI can deny BG a random at Aspid, and then later when we do the same rule at Fafnir they just steal it, and thats somehow benefiting the community, I will never post on the forums ever again.

I can understand your distaste of NA LSes, but I cannot for the life of me understand your worship of "Fucking Idiots".

Don't stop posting. I really want to know why you think they're so great. You gave your opinion on them, but didn't say why you had that opinion. I just gave you an example of why I think they're self-serving.

Lol btw, i dont see "No botting" on the rules, i guess its one of those other broken rules like "No stealing" "no MPKing". How 'convenient'.
TRY and find the sarcasm and irony in my posts and not the literal meaning of everything.

Is the irony here that a linkshell with strong ties to botting is arguing for rules and fair-play?

And "no stealing," "no mpking," were always pretty much implied, its only recently that people have gotten fed up with the bullshit that its taking off. And anyone who didn't see this coming the past few months needs to pay more attention.

And if you think I quote posts and argue every little point, just get into an argument with Sendoh.

I saw the movie "Thank You for Smoking" last night, found it really funny. The main character said something good about debates. You don't have to be right to win a debate, you just have to show the other person is wrong. You haven't shown me I'm wrong, you've just marveled that I don't have the same view as you.

[Krandor]

Xavier what's your major in school? O_o You certainly know how to whip up a good debate.

Your posts seriously give me an erection everytime I read them.

[broods]

plz last time^^ :D
Judah

please tell Zared :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
sub jop RDM can i have it^^

Too Weak LS
stole LS fuck you moooom^^ 8) :D

[Not Kuno]

I feel like I need to drink a gallon of lead paint to understand broods.