Update Notes

[Tape]

What does everyone think of Subjobs for the new jobs?

Obviously Blu will be mage subs but Cor and Pup?

We got into a discussion of Cor/Whm like Brd, but I wanted more of a Cor/War (since i dont have mage jobs leveled up) and Pup/Whm like Bst? Ideas?

[Kenai]

- Special effects of Phantom Roll

The effect of a Phantom Roll will be enhanced depending on the type of roll and the main jobs of party members. For example, when a Fighter’s Roll is used, the effect of the roll will be greater if a warrior is in the party.

If I'm reading this right, does this mean that we can use say Fighter's Roll even when there is not a WAR in the pt? The only drawback to the roll is that it will not be as strong as it would be if a WAR was in the pt. If this is so then that's great, COR won't be limited to using rolls of pt members only.

I think the greatest thing about it is that by default COR's roll is automatically enhanced. (if I remember correctly, COR roll is suppose to be EXP+ right? ;3)

Yeah... COR sounds like it's going to be a pimp support job. Besieged xp bonus + COR xp bonus = faster leveling than ever?

My guess is people who are really good at the technical aspect of rolls will help parties a lot while people who just spam rolls and bust a lot will be awful at the job. Still waiting to see if they get a decent melee weapon though so it's not another job that has to spam silver bullets.

Sounds like they will be spamming cards instead of Silver Bullets. They didn't want them taking a RNG's job, right?

I wonder though...

[Ohemgee]

Mog lockers'

[zymurgy]

Yeah but you only get a max of two rolls so if you want one of them to be exp bonus, you'd get the enhancement from having a COR in the party, but you give up another possible roll

Easily solved, just roll COR closer to the end of the battle. It'll be judgement calls from the COR to know when to use which rolls. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

That's a possibility but I'm sure that will be fixed really fast if they haven't already thought of it. I wonder what the recast time is on Phantom Roll

[Reality]

What does everyone think of Subjobs for the new jobs?

Obviously Blu will be mage subs but Cor and Pup?

We got into a discussion of Cor/Whm like Brd, but I wanted more of a Cor/War (since i dont have mage jobs leveled up) and Pup/Whm like Bst? Ideas?

uhhh

blu/___ (insert SJ that compliments what role the BLU is playing in the PT)
Cor/Whm
Pup/Whm or Rdm

those are my guesses

[Dank]

Yeah but you only get a max of two rolls so if you want one of them to be exp bonus, you'd get the enhancement from having a COR in the party, but you give up another possible roll

Easily solved, just roll COR closer to the end of the battle. It'll be judgement calls from the COR to know when to use which rolls. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

QFT, I think this job will require alot more technical skills than most jobs, since idiots won't get this concept. I can't wait for merit parties with COR, it could happen sooner if you want to merit with one of them in a level capped area. Don't you get double limit points in Promy and stuff? + the Corsair bonus....

[Rayden]

Sounds like corsair and puppetmaster are gonna kill our inventory even more. I'll just stick with the old jobs I think.

Comeback to the Game Dank 8) You know you wana.

[Quicklet]

That's a possibility but I'm sure that will be fixed really fast if they haven't already thought of it. I wonder what the recast time is on Phantom Roll

Don't forget though that if it's an xp bonus based off the roll, the COR would probably want to use those extra rolls to increase the bonus. Also, it sounds like the rolls can't be overwritten until they wear off / are manually removed, so the whole party would have to click off their rolls a lot if they last a while.

[Raineer]

Is anyone else liking the idea that we don't all have to BUST ASS to get this downloaded since we still have a few days until they flip the switch?

I know I am...

datmongering not included

[Zaris]

Blue magic spells up to level 37 would have to be pretty decent if you want to sub it for mages - whether it's good damage or gives good stat bonuses to your main. Otherwise BLM/BLU doesn't contribute imo. WHM/BLU might work if you have ninja tank and want the WHM to do something other than just twidling her thumbs.

[inafume]

Monsters' area attacks have been altered to affect the players who have incurred the notorious monster's enmity and their party or alliance members, rather than all players in the area of effect.

Someone said way earlier (page 5?) they don't think this would affect Fafhogg. I actually think it could. How often in a crowded Aery have you been fighting yet Hurricane Wing missed you?

I have no problems with it hitting people outside the fighting alliance but I think it's quite a silly bug that it doesn't always hit people actually fighting it. It's possible this addresses that.

Hopefully they won't get rid of Fafnir Breath Challenge™.

[Dank]

Sounds like corsair and puppetmaster are gonna kill our inventory even more. I'll just stick with the old jobs I think.

Comeback to the Game Dank 8) You know you wana.

LOL, my quitting lasted a whole 4 days, I've been back for awhile now

[Tape]

What does everyone think of Subjobs for the new jobs?

Obviously Blu will be mage subs but Cor and Pup?

We got into a discussion of Cor/Whm like Brd, but I wanted more of a Cor/War (since i dont have mage jobs leveled up) and Pup/Whm like Bst? Ideas?

uhhh

blu/___ (insert SJ that compliments what role the BLU is playing in the PT)
Cor/Whm
Pup/Whm or Rdm

those are my guesses

God i hope you are wrong

[Kenai]

What does everyone think of Subjobs for the new jobs?

Obviously Blu will be mage subs but Cor and Pup?

We got into a discussion of Cor/Whm like Brd, but I wanted more of a Cor/War (since i dont have mage jobs leveled up) and Pup/Whm like Bst? Ideas?

I don't see how subbing WAR is gonna help COR in any way. I still don't know what they hell PUP is going to sub. I guess PUP could sub melee stuff, but if COR is gonna be an answer to those crying over the rareness of a BRD, they will prolly end up subbing WHM unless they can sub RDM for Dispel.

I dunno though, I'd really like to see the effects on those other Phantom Rolls.

[Ish]

- Special effects of Phantom Roll

The effect of a Phantom Roll will be enhanced depending on the type of roll and the main jobs of party members. For example, when a Fighter’s Roll is used, the effect of the roll will be greater if a warrior is in the party.

If I'm reading this right, does this mean that we can use say Fighter's Roll even when there is not a WAR in the pt? The only drawback to the roll is that it will not be as strong as it would be if a WAR was in the pt. If this is so then that's great, COR won't be limited to using rolls of pt members only.

I think the greatest thing about it is that by default COR's roll is automatically enhanced. (if I remember correctly, COR roll is suppose to be EXP+ right? ;3)

Yeah... COR sounds like it's going to be a pimp support job. Besieged xp bonus + COR xp bonus = faster leveling than ever?

My guess is people who are really good at the technical aspect of rolls will help parties a lot while people who just spam rolls and bust a lot will be awful at the job. Still waiting to see if they get a decent melee weapon though so it's not another job that has to spam silver bullets.

It's also very likely that COR AF will have "Enhances Phantom Roll" etc. adding modifiers to your rolls. Hell, there might be several modifiers to your rolls, including a base stat depending on the card. It's certainly getting interesting..

[Rayden]

Sounds like corsair and puppetmaster are gonna kill our inventory even more. I'll just stick with the old jobs I think.

Comeback to the Game Dank 8) You know you wana.

LOL, my quitting lasted a whole 4 days, I've been back for awhile now

Enjoy Your Vacation? ^^

[Sekkite]

A TP change! *ghasp*

I hope it is a substantial one.

[zymurgy]

That's a possibility but I'm sure that will be fixed really fast if they haven't already thought of it. I wonder what the recast time is on Phantom Roll

Don't forget though that if it's an xp bonus based off the roll, the COR would probably want to use those extra rolls to increase the bonus. Also, it sounds like the rolls can't be overwritten until they wear off / are manually removed, so the whole party would have to click off their rolls a lot if they last a while.

Ahhhhhh yeah the fact that the rolls can't be overwritten is the solution to that little problem

[Dank]

It certainly is getting interesting....

Enjoy Your Vacation? ^^

Hell ya, I got alot done lol

[Kenai]

The EXP bonus might be more useful in a farming PT where stat boosts wouldn't really be needed. Or maybe you could time it right to get the bonus, by having the first roll wear off as the mob was about to die. Or maybe...

I don't really know. It sounds like COR might seriously replace a BRD though. Did anyone think it was even possible? I know BRD would still have Ballad but...Double attack bonus? +Crit bonus? EXP bonus? Refresh? Card debuffs?

That sounds sexier the more I think about it. I'm just wondering on the potency on some of these things. I'm also wondering about how COR will handle bullets, considering they *said* COR was not supposed to have DD abilities even close to that of a RNG.