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  1. #181
    Relic Shield
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    ic, I haven't gone to that area yet. Does their wyvern die when they use it too?

  2. #182
    The God Damn Kuno
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    I think so. I only saw one mob use it and someone went omg spirit surge and I couldn't find the wyvern anymore. So probably.

  3. #183
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    Benediction doesn't cure Doom.

  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides
    S-E's philosophy on whm:

    You want something? YOU GOT IT? WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

    A completely unnecessary JSE that has ridiculous stats including what is essentially a speed belt for your hands? YOU GOT IT!

    An upgrade to divine seal to expand its functionality? SURE!!!

    A tier 3 holy nuke and the ability to out-MB RDMs on undead? WHY THE FUCK NOT??

    A free scorpion harness? KNP!

    A bevy of clubs that allow better soloability and melee? HERE YA GO!

    It's fun playing S-Es favorite child D:
    Yup, sounds about right to me.

    I just wish S-E's philosophy on RDM wasn't:

    Landing an enfeeble on Shinra one out of every ten casts is good enough, now shut up and cast refresh!

  5. #185
    Chram
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    FYI, Benediction doesn't remove Doom as we found out in Uleguerand Range last night lol.

    [Edit] - Just saw Taj's post, oops

  6. #186
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides
    S-E's philosophy on whm:

    You want something? YOU GOT IT? WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

    A completely unnecessary JSE that has ridiculous stats including what is essentially a speed belt for your hands? YOU GOT IT!

    An upgrade to divine seal to expand its functionality? SURE!!!

    A tier 3 holy nuke and the ability to out-MB RDMs on undead? WHY THE FUCK NOT??

    A free scorpion harness? KNP!

    A bevy of clubs that allow better soloability and melee? HERE YA GO!

    It's fun playing S-Es favorite child D:
    Yup, sounds about right to me.

    I just wish S-E's philosophy on RDM wasn't:

    Landing an enfeeble on Shinra one out of every ten casts is good enough, now shut up and cast refresh!
    REFRESH PLZZZZZZ

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taj
    Benediction doesn't cure Doom.

  8. #188
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    Has anyone looked at the dats yet with the expansion installed? Shouldn't you be able to sort by level and poke around 52 and see the af?

  9. #189
    The Sig...
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    They didnt release the .dats for the new jobs AF...>_>

  10. #190
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    The new set:enhances SB for MNKs mostly shit, EXCEPT the body, which (depending on the Crit increase) has the potential to be the best melee body piece for MNKs, as for WS, you might be able to use it but I think Togi/Osode would be better...

    Cerebus mantle +1 looks hot as well...

  11. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides
    S-E's philosophy on whm:

    You want something? YOU GOT IT? WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

    A completely unnecessary JSE that has ridiculous stats including what is essentially a speed belt for your hands? YOU GOT IT!

    An upgrade to divine seal to expand its functionality? SURE!!!

    A tier 3 holy nuke and the ability to out-MB RDMs on undead? WHY THE FUCK NOT??

    A free scorpion harness? KNP!

    A bevy of clubs that allow better soloability and melee? HERE YA GO!

    It's fun playing S-Es favorite child D:
    Gotta love it, and anyone non-whm that whines, go ahead and go level WHM to 75, then tell me that we don't need some toys to play with once in awhile. Or, better yet, go out in a skill-up party around level 67 to try and get hexa-strike, make sure you are the only healer, and see how many skill-ups you get.

  12. #192
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    You don't know how many tells I get from anon mages in the tree when I exp on bst.

    mage: (Hello!) Skill Up?
    epigram: exp sorry
    mage: Please ;;, I just need 12 points...

    Apparently there is something very desirable about having a tank that you can just toss away after use, and don't have to cure...

  13. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dank
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides
    S-E's philosophy on whm:

    You want something? YOU GOT IT? WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

    A completely unnecessary JSE that has ridiculous stats including what is essentially a speed belt for your hands? YOU GOT IT!

    An upgrade to divine seal to expand its functionality? SURE!!!

    A tier 3 holy nuke and the ability to out-MB RDMs on undead? WHY THE FUCK NOT??

    A free scorpion harness? KNP!

    A bevy of clubs that allow better soloability and melee? HERE YA GO!

    It's fun playing S-Es favorite child D:
    Gotta love it, and anyone non-whm that whines, go ahead and go level WHM to 75, then tell me that we don't need some toys to play with once in awhile. Or, better yet, go out in a skill-up party around level 67 to try and get hexa-strike, make sure you are the only healer, and see how many skill-ups you get.
    If only Red Mages knew what it was like to have a thankless job where everyone expected you to hold their hands all the time and take care of them.

    (The only difference is that a RDM can get most of his/her skill ups solo.)

  14. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Yup, sounds about right to me.

    I just wish S-E's philosophy on RDM wasn't:

    Landing an enfeeble on Shinra one out of every ten casts is good enough, now shut up and cast refresh!
    WHM is a shitty job that needs to be heavily buffed. This is a game based on killing shit and WHM has the lowest damage output of any job by a huge degree so soloing is out and even duoing the job is not a good addition. Even for their main task, healing, you're better off taking RDM for XP parties because convert will let RDM outheal a WHM despite noble's tunic. The only place WHM has an edge on anyone is when Cure V is absolutely required.

  15. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Dank
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides
    S-E's philosophy on whm:

    You want something? YOU GOT IT? WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

    A completely unnecessary JSE that has ridiculous stats including what is essentially a speed belt for your hands? YOU GOT IT!

    An upgrade to divine seal to expand its functionality? SURE!!!

    A tier 3 holy nuke and the ability to out-MB RDMs on undead? WHY THE FUCK NOT??

    A free scorpion harness? KNP!

    A bevy of clubs that allow better soloability and melee? HERE YA GO!

    It's fun playing S-Es favorite child D:
    Gotta love it, and anyone non-whm that whines, go ahead and go level WHM to 75, then tell me that we don't need some toys to play with once in awhile. Or, better yet, go out in a skill-up party around level 67 to try and get hexa-strike, make sure you are the only healer, and see how many skill-ups you get.
    If only Red Mages knew what it was like to have a thankless job where everyone expected you to hold their hands all the time and take care of them.

    (The only difference is that a RDM can get most of his/her skill ups solo.)
    I'll agree, RDM is on the same thankless pedestal, but just has a little more solo skill pre-74/nin.

    And Epi...lol...that's funny, and what's also funny is a mage saying it's only 12 points. It's lucky if you get more than like 2-3 points out of a few hours.

  16. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    The new set:enhances SB for MNKs mostly shit, EXCEPT the body, which (depending on the Crit increase) has the potential to be the best melee body piece for MNKs, as for WS, you might be able to use it but I think Togi/Osode would be better...
    I'm thinking, along lines of the Yigit set for BLU, that the new light cloth set (that palawhatever) is ideally going to be PUP only (for best use), since monk's have superior pieces for literally every slot. Me personally, i'm not using that new body over Togi or Osode unless the crit increase is severly broken

  17. #197
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    I'm more interested in how to aquire the Pln. set. Assault Points?

  18. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    WHM is a shitty job that needs to be heavily buffed. This is a game based on killing shit and WHM has the lowest damage output of any job by a huge degree so soloing is out and even duoing the job is not a good addition. Even for their main task, healing, you're better off taking RDM for XP parties because convert will let RDM outheal a WHM despite noble's tunic. The only place WHM has an edge on anyone is when Cure V is absolutely required.
    Yeah, no one takes whms to some tomb place or some range place and rakes in exp

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