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    Quote Originally Posted by Nny
    Everything you listed except Panther, DRK can use too lol. And even if you don't include Ace, Homam helm is 3% haste (Same as Panther+1) and Patroclus's Helm is 2%. Basically every haste piece THF can use, DRK can use and then some.
    No shit, I didn't know drk could wear Homam. The only people I'v ever seen it in were thfs. As for aces helm, getting one is a bitch. We are 1/4? on him and just getting him to spawn is a pain beyond all pains. They are not common at all, at least on my server.

    Also, do you really use that belt during exp? To you blow a charge every time your haste wears? I find it hard to believe that anyone would go that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kareface
    Quote Originally Posted by Nny
    Everything you listed except Panther, DRK can use too lol. And even if you don't include Ace, Homam helm is 3% haste (Same as Panther+1) and Patroclus's Helm is 2%. Basically every haste piece THF can use, DRK can use and then some.
    No shit, I didn't know drk could wear Homam. The only people I'v ever seen it in were thfs. As for aces helm, getting one is a bitch. We are 1/4? on him and just getting him to spawn is a pain beyond all pains. They are not common at all, at least on my server.

    Also, do you really use that belt during exp? To you blow a charge every time your haste wears? I find it hard to believe that anyone would go that far.
    Do you use food?

    As for Homam, its DRK/DRG/PLD/THF

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    A belt lasts an hour, and it's like 5-10k to make one. I used to use them, but after I got swift belt I decided to just be lazy.

    I also don't see how it's going "that far." Ever play RDM in merit PT before? I have once, using an enchantment belt every 3 minutes is nothing compared to playing a mage lol.

    And I never said they were common, but at the same time I don't understand why you would say "THF has more haste then DRK because DRK's items are an uncommon drop."

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    You can macro enchantment items can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You can macro enchantment items can't you?
    Some. haste belt wears off if you swap it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You can macro enchantment items can't you?
    Some. haste belt wears off if you swap it out.
    Same with high breath mantle, when I xp ninja I save myself some frustration and don't take any otehr backpieces when I intend to use it. Hate losing charge on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You can macro enchantment items can't you?
    Some. haste belt wears off if you swap it out.
    I meant macro as in /item "Haste Belt" <me> when it wears off. Then you don't even have to dig through your inventory to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You can macro enchantment items can't you?
    Some. haste belt wears off if you swap it out.
    I meant macro as in /item "Haste Belt" <me> when it wears off. Then you don't even have to dig through your inventory to find it.
    Oh yeah

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    But then your short +5 Str and +5 dex on the WS right? 4% haste is sweet over a speed belt, but the hastle and what you would have to give up on WS knida sucks. You could reuse a charge after the WS, but you would be down whatever the equip delay is with no haste what-so-ever. IMHO its not worth the bother.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Do you use food?
    Yes. Why are you still here?

    Comparing food, that you have to eat once every 30-1hr (or longer for unstackable) to something that give you a 4% buff over the next best thing, but you need to use once every 3 minutes? I can store 6hrs of food in one slot, but 6hrs of belts takes 6 slots. The 4% buff you would get over the speed belt is also knida nerfed by the fact that theres a delay after using items with charges too.

    I can't remember the last time you posted some worthwhile information. GJ on forum post +1, I hope you catch the clap.

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    There's only a couple second cool down for JA's and MA's, normal attacks aren't effected by the cool down.

    5 STR hardly does anything for WS damage, and 5 DEX doesn't do anything anyway since I don't recall any 2h weaponskill that is crit based.

    Considering the fact that DoT is where the majority of damage comes from, 4% on normal hits > 5 STR on WS.

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    Ah, I see. What about the cast time? Well I can say, I'd be way too lazy todo anything of the sort. I get frustrated when I'm not building TP while casting ni. I could see using it oh HNMs where 4% might help a war tank better, but in normal exp I think being lazyish > 4% haste.

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    Doesn't take long to activate at all. Especially since you only need to use it once an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Doesn't take long to activate at all. Especially since you only need to use it once an hour.
    You need to use it 20 times an hour, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Doesn't take long to activate at all. Especially since you only need to use it once an hour.
    Actually every 3 minutes, same as haste spell. By one hour, I meant one BELT lasts an hour. 20 charges, 3 minutes, each, 60 minutes a belt.

    And yeah, like I said I'm just lazy now and use Swift cuz it's still the same exp/hour really. But at the same time, if you're talking about being the ultimate best, Haste Belt is the best you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nny
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Doesn't take long to activate at all. Especially since you only need to use it once an hour.
    Actually every 3 minutes, same as haste spell. By one hour, I meant one BELT lasts an hour. 20 charges, 3 minutes, each, 60 minutes a belt.

    And yeah, like I said I'm just lazy now and use Swift cuz it's still the same exp/hour really. But at the same time, if you're talking about being the ultimate best, Haste Belt is the best you can get.
    How is any of that haste worth it if 6% decrease is the same exp/hour...

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    In the end there's factors other than how much haste you have that affect your xp/hr to a much larger degree. Like, how often people afk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    If I had a free slot open, barring friends etc...

    Ulg Rng PT:

    1st on list: WAR/NIN, NIN/WAR, MNK/(NIN or WAR), SAM/(THF or WAR)
    2nd on list: BST/NIN (temperance Axe), THF/NIN, RNG/WAR, DRK/NIN
    3rd on list: DRG/(NIN or SAM), PLD/NIN, DRK/SAM
    4th on list: RDM/NIN (with relic)
    5th on list: DRK/WAR, DRG/WAR, or Break PT

    I would invite Corrderio before a drk/war at tp burn.
    LMAO, that is so true. Good one, alt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dank
    Quote Originally Posted by epigram
    If I had a free slot open, barring friends etc...

    Ulg Rng PT:

    1st on list: WAR/NIN, NIN/WAR, MNK/(NIN or WAR), SAM/(THF or WAR)
    2nd on list: BST/NIN (temperance Axe), THF/NIN, RNG/WAR, DRK/NIN
    3rd on list: DRG/(NIN or SAM), PLD/NIN, DRK/SAM
    4th on list: RDM/NIN (with relic)
    5th on list: DRK/WAR, DRG/WAR, or Break PT

    I would invite Corrderio before a drk/war at tp burn.
    LMAO, that is so true. Good one, alt.
    Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

    And I know DRK/WAR doesn't get invites, its kind of obvious when you can't get a party.

    By the way, why the fuck would you invite a SAM 1st off when its a manasink, just like the oh so hated DRK. And DRK/SAM never will deal as much damage as DRK/WAR, so I don't get that one either.

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